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Lukaku had similar problems, it’s difficult for our striker atm.
 
He started terribly but improved a lot with hold-up play and dribbling. Probably the biggest threat as the half ended.
Spot on, and considering he's pretty much on his own, he did well to turn Everton defenders and win unequal battles.
 
Have to say I am a big Martial fan and think he has talent to be something special, but honestly he is a bit of an enigma. There are times when he will make a run in to space and ok he doesn’t get the ball and he gets frustrated. Then there are moments when you’re watching and I’m asking myself why aren’t you making a run to there Martial when it’s an obvious run.

What’s worse is occasionally play is building and you notice he isn’t on the last shoulder of the defender when really he should be but instead he’s jogging in to midfield when Pogba, Mata, Lingard and Herrera are all in front of him with the ball.
I think we really need to get a striking coach in for this guy just to help him with what runs to make and when to do them, other than that he’s had an ok game.
 
Lukaku had similar problems, it’s difficult for our striker atm.

Of course, he will have the same problem than Lukaku, playing Martial as a CF won't magically make creative wide players appear.
 
He's got his faults, he's still raw, but...

You can't deny we look better with him as CF than Lukaku. If anyone argues that Lukaku is more guaranteed to score, then we can just buy better attackers around Martial to increase our output. Either way, I feel Lukaku does hinder our playing style.
 
Play the pass into him sooner and he will cause damage. Instead we keep avoiding passes into the CF. With his touch you can trust him with the ball.
 
He's got his faults, he's still raw, but...

You can't deny we look better with him as CF than Lukaku. If anyone argues that Lukaku is more guaranteed to score, then we can just buy better attackers around Martial to increase our output. Either way, I feel Lukaku does hinder our playing style.

Nonsense. Attacking problems are evident with or without Lukaku.
 
Still believe he’s a centre forward. Just fear he will move on to play that position.

With the cost of Lukaku he simply won’t be dropped.
 
Still believe he’s a centre forward. Just fear he will move on to play that position.

With the cost of Lukaku he simply won’t be dropped.

I maintain that the best we looked was when we played 3-5-2 with Martial and Lukaku as CF, Martial drifting a bit to the left. I maintain that we would look the best if Pogba was the one behind 2 strikers (Rashford as 3rd striker to rotate with Martial and Lukaku) and with quality box-to-box CM next to Matic with Herrera as the backup for both. Add proper wing backs and we would suddenly look like a proper team.
 
I don't think we need typical wide players, if we setup as the case being today. play 3 attackers, one more central (Lukaku) and two free flowing attackers withe flair and trickery running off Lukaku. with the 3 man midfield played today allows the fullbacks go forward and produce width in attack. these thing additional to Pogba drifting left and right to create. could see players like Martial and Rashford coming closer to goal
 
Nonsense. Attacking problems are evident with or without Lukaku.

Mate, even a Chelsea supporter said playing with Martial instead of Lukaku is almost like playing with Morata. There is no contest, Martial is technically superior to Lukaku even despite being raw.
 
I maintain that the best we looked was when we played 3-5-2 with Martial and Lukaku as CF, Martial drifting a bit to the left. I maintain that we would look the best if Pogba was the one behind 2 strikers (Rashford as 3rd striker to rotate with Martial and Lukaku) and with quality box-to-box CM next to Matic with Herrera as the backup for both. Add proper wing backs and we would suddenly look like a proper team.
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I maintain that the best we looked was when we played 3-5-2 with Martial and Lukaku as CF, Martial drifting a bit to the left. I maintain that we would look the best if Pogba was the one behind 2 strikers (Rashford as 3rd striker to rotate with Martial and Lukaku) and with quality box-to-box CM next to Matic with Herrera as the backup for both. Add proper wing backs and we would suddenly look like a proper team.
Not seen him play but we've been linked with him a lot... do you think Milinkovic-Savic could fit that?
 
How him not running into channels have not been addressed by the coaches is beyond me.

He's clearly the most talented attacking option we have in the club but needs to improve the way he positions himself when off the ball.

That said, I love him and hope Jose sees how well they seem to work with Pogba (and Show).
 
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Not seen him play but we've been linked with him a lot... do you think Milinkovic-Savic could fit that?

He's my countryman and I would obviously like another Serb in United shirt but I am not sure. He is too much like Pogba, which isn't bad obviously and not a slight on him, but I think we need someone who's more CM then #10. I would rather have Veratti or Saul or someone like them. But then again, he's 22, if he can develop more like a proper CM he will be absolutely lethal in the position. Question is, can Matic handle the midfield with two Pogba-like CMs infront of him?
 
People have to understand , blaming our number 9 must be stopped. They are getting SHIT service. Mata as always cannot put one good cross. We need to buy mahrez and get some positivity
You saw that finish. A man utd striker must have the ability to get on the scoresheet on days like this with moments of magic. You can't always have chances fashioned for you on a plate
 
People have to understand , blaming our number 9 must be stopped. They are getting SHIT service. Mata as always cannot put one good cross. We need to buy mahrez and get some positivity
What about that one he plonked on Lukaku’s head on Saturday?
 
Not seen him play but we've been linked with him a lot... do you think Milinkovic-Savic could fit that?
He strikes me more as a Pogba-lite. Think we need someone more like David Silva or Modric to keep things ticking.
 
He's my countryman and I would obviously like another Serb in United shirt but I am not sure. He is too much like Pogba, which isn't bad obviously and not a slight on him, but I think we need someone who's more CM then #10. I would rather have Veratti or Saul or someone like them. But then again, he's 22, if he can develop more like a proper CM he will be absolutely lethal in the position. Question is, can Matic handle the midfield with two Pogba-like CMs infront of him?
He strikes me more as a Pogba-lite. Think we need someone more like David Silva or Modric to keep things ticking.
Thanks. Shame those four aren't really attainable and can't think of an obvious name who would be.
 
How him not running into channels have not been addressed by the coaches is beyond me.

He's clearly the most talented attacking option we have in the club but needs to improve the way he positions himself when off the ball.

That said, I love him and hope Jose sees how well they seem to work with Pogba (and Show).
Hazard said that kinda stuff wasn't worked on when Mourinho was manager of Chelsea. No idea if the same here but positioning/movement off the ball seems an issue with most of our attacking players.
 
Hazard said that kinda stuff wasn't worked on when Mourinho was manager of Chelsea. No idea if the same here but positioning/movement off the ball seems an issue with most of our attacking players.

It's been an issue with our players as long as I can remember going back a long time into Ferguson's reign as well. It's bizarre.
 
Have to say I am a big Martial fan and think he has talent to be something special, but honestly he is a bit of an enigma. There are times when he will make a run in to space and ok he doesn’t get the ball and he gets frustrated. Then there are moments when you’re watching and I’m asking myself why aren’t you making a run to there Martial when it’s an obvious run.

What’s worse is occasionally play is building and you notice he isn’t on the last shoulder of the defender when really he should be but instead he’s jogging in to midfield when Pogba, Mata, Lingard and Herrera are all in front of him with the ball.
I think we really need to get a striking coach in for this guy just to help him with what runs to make and when to do them, other than that he’s had an ok game.
This. He is at good at a lot of things. IMO he should play as a second striker instead of as a lone CF. A good attacking coach will really sort him out.
 
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