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2017-18 Performances


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Unless you can predict the future I've no idea how you can make said statement.

I don't really understand why it's a discussion at all.

It's not because it's someone spouting off an opinion they'll eat their words on in a couple of years, with no certainty of progress, and regret losing a player of his talent if that choice had to be made. Luckily, someone like haram doesn't speak for Manchester United, or whoever 'us' is.
 
Yes I do watch our games. Martial needs to improve his movement and attacking work rate. Kagawa was not good enough for Manchester United. Neither is Mkhi. Both weak players.

Mourinho is worth more than Martial to us. The sooner people realise that, the better.

Not really.
 
As it stands, Martial has been excellent mostly in games vs teams we can dominate without problems (CSKA, Burton, Benfica) or when subbed in late in games. He is yet to start a difficult game and look special. For now he's been mostly a fantastic sub. Which shouldn't be underestimated either, his contributions as a sub are quite important, especially vs Spurs.
 
6 CL/PL games in the first XI. The only one where he's scored or assisted is against CSKA.

It 'feels' like a falsehood because your agenda won't allow you to process the facts. Sad!
Donald? Is that you?
 
6 CL/PL games in the first XI. The only one where he's scored or assisted is against CSKA.

It 'feels' like a falsehood because your agenda won't allow you to process the facts. Sad!
To be fair to him you didn't say just CL/PL games in the original post. He's started 8 games in all competitions, scoring/assisting in two of them so technically your original post was a falsehood.
 
Yes I do watch our games. Martial needs to improve his movement and attacking work rate. Kagawa was not good enough for Manchester United. Neither is Mkhi. Both weak players.

Mourinho is worth more than Martial to us. The sooner people realise that, the better.
Completely disagree.

Manager who'll be here for two/three years versus a player who could be here for the next decade? No contest.
 
To be fair to him you didn't say just CL/PL games in the original post. He's started 8 games in all competitions, scoring/assisting in two of them so technically your original post was a falsehood.
As did the guy I was quoting (Bwuk). He set the criteria and I responded in kind. It would have been disingenuous to do anything else. If somebody else wants to join the conversation and shift the goalposts in order to illicit outrage, that's their problem.
 
Odd that people want to downplay the achievements of our young players. Player of the month 2 months running suggests he's doing great. Trying to pick holes in Martial or Rashford just seems wrong to me. Why be that miserable? They're both brilliant and playing really well.
 
Martial is developing well. Just compare him now to this time last year (and compare him to Shaw over the same period). This season is about building him up - next season we'll see him and Rashford together.
 
Completely disagree.

Manager who'll be here for two/three years versus a player who could be here for the next decade? No contest.

Lmfao, who says Mourinho will be here for only 2/3 years? Martial's best year came when the team was built around him. What happened that year? He's not good enough to have a team built around him.
 
This is a weird post but someone photoshopped Martial wearing a classic shirt. What on earth happened to our kits.

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Lmfao, who says Mourinho will be here for only 2/3 years? Martial's best year came when the team was built around him. What happened that year? He's not good enough to have a team built around him.
Labelling him not good enough at the age of 19? Makes me cringe
 
Odd that people want to downplay the achievements of our young players. Player of the month 2 months running suggests he's doing great. Trying to pick holes in Martial or Rashford just seems wrong to me. Why be that miserable? They're both brilliant and playing really well.
Counter argument from the usual suspects will be that the POTM vote is done by the public so he'll have won it because of "Martial FC" fans.

I agree completely with your last three sentences.
 
Lmfao, who says Mourinho will be here for only 2/3 years? Martial's best year came when the team was built around him. What happened that year? He's not good enough to have a team built around him.
Dude it is clear you dont rate him that highly but it is bemusing to see that you regularly take out time just to berrate and criticise him in this thread. One thing to have a certain opinion, another to be utterly obsessed.
 
Dude it is clear you dont rate him that highly but it is bemusing to see that you regularly take out time just to berrate and criticise him in this thread. One thing to have a certain opinion, another to be utterly obsessed.

It is fair criticism. What have I said there that is so bad? Jose Mourinho is bigger for this club than Martial is, that's a fact.
 
Dude it is clear you dont rate him that highly but it is bemusing to see that you regularly take out time just to berrate and criticise him in this thread. One thing to have a certain opinion, another to be utterly obsessed.

Exactly. It's nauseating to see such blatant agenda posting.
 
It is fair criticism. What have I said there that is so bad? Jose Mourinho is bigger for this club than Martial is, that's a fact.

Seriously? If that's fair criticism then I can't wait to see your unfair criticism.
 
It is fair criticism. What have I said there that is so bad? Jose Mourinho is bigger for this club than Martial is, that's a fact.
You've posted 111 times in this thread and I probably could still count the number of positive posts with one hand.
 
Martial's best year came when the team was built around him. What happened that year? He's not good enough to have a team built around him.

Is this the definition of "fair criticism"? One of the most stupidest posts I've ever read on this forum.
 
You've posted 111 times in this thread and I could probably still count the number of positive posts with one hand.

I have an opinion which is different to a lot of people. I am usually discussing my point with multiple people because it's a bit controversial. I don't know what else people want me to do. I do like discussing topics like these, I find it interesting and there's always something new to talk about. I have said what I like and dislike about Martial. I'm sorry if the majority is not positive. I am trying to add some balance to the topic. A lot of the time Mourinho gets a lot of criticism and I feel there is another way to look at things.

Is this the definition of "fair criticism"? One of the most stupidest posts I've ever read on this forum.

Considering the type of player he is, I don't think he is good enough to have a title challenging team built around him. He has to improve on parts of his game.
 
Anyways, onto November now. Get that and make it 4 in a row.

This is Martial 4th potm since coming to United. He managed 2 in his debut season, hopefully much more to come this season.

On a side note, Martial currently has to be the most popular united player among the fans. Be it when he's on the pitch or the general feeking online, twitter etc, he's easily the most popular.

This month's poll was pretty close with DeGea but as an attacker with his excellent dribbling and way of playing he exites the fans much more thus his popularity.
 
I have an opinion which is different to a lot of people. I am usually discussing my point with multiple people because it's a bit controversial. I don't know what else people want me to do. I do like discussing topics like these, I find it interesting and there's always something new to talk about. I have said what I like and dislike about Martial. I'm sorry if the majority is not positive. I am trying to add some balance to the topic. A lot of the time Mourinho gets a lot of criticism and I feel there is another way to look at things.



Considering the type of player he is, I don't think he is good enough to have a title challenging team built around him. He has to improve on parts of his game.

The question is why would you even bring this up? I don't think anybody is arguing he is that good right now .You're just generating criticim out of nowhere.

I wonder if City fans are sat around complaining Sané isn't good enough to build a team around.
 
It's not an agenda. It really isn't. I want what is best for Manchester United. Mourinho > Martial.

Nope. Mourinho will not be here in 5 years. That is an absolute fact whether you want to admit to yourself or not.
 
No, that is not an absolute fact.

What in your opinion, suggests in any way that Mourinho will be here any longer than he’s stayed at any other club in the past? It’s not his style and he’s already said he won’t be retiring here. It’s very obvious.
 
What in your opinion, suggests in any way that Mourinho will be here any longer than he’s stayed at any other club in the past? It’s not his style and he’s already said he won’t be retiring here. It’s very obvious.

So that makes it an absolute fact?
 
That top is fecking smart isn't it. Adidas should re-release it one season as our home shirt. Only problem is the Chevrolet logo.
They did it already. Our first shirt under adidas looked just like that.
 
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