This is what will happen frequently because of his play style. He is 1 dimensional.
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The most pathetic of the yellow card incident with their number 2 was how nobody thought to attack that side more often and try and make their defender commit for a second yellow. Instead we persisted with the right side, pathetic.
Why sub him? Those like for like substitutions when we are chasing a result do my head in
Yep. Not a good game for him, and we looked more cohesive in attack after he went off. Think it was a bit down to him losing his head early on with the booking.
That was dreadful tbh.
The yellow card got his mind out of the game completely and he didn't bother to show up after it for the rest of the half.
The yellow card got his mind out of the game completely and he didn't bother to show up after it for the rest of the half.
Too all the people who are saying he was crap in the first half, well who wasn't? There was no need for him to be subbed off, what did Lingard do all game to deserve 90 minutes on the pitch? It's substitutions like these that make people think Mourinho doesn't really like Martial, there was a good chance to see Rashford and Martial together in action but we got fecking Lingard overrunning or miscontrolling the football for 90 minutes.
I genuinely just think it’s all down to pogba and fellaini being injured. No decent service, no backup and no distracting runs. Simple.
All Martial would have done is look for the ball to feet and cut inside into a crowded box. Stop making excuses for him.
He was poor, but I think the bigger problem was his petulance. Right decision to take him off.
He was the only attacking player trying to do anything. If it wasn't for the yellow i expect he would have stayed on; 10 men at 0-2 is game over.
Looking like he would actually last the 90 probably helped him.
He is actually the only attacking player from the front four who does not shit himself when the ball is passed to him in tight space and the only one who can actually dribble so we needed him the most in the second half to break 11 man behind the ball defence. But i won't blame Jose for this, he would have probably given another stupid foul away after giving a ball away and made our task huge to impossible.
Martial is not good when facing a team with 11 behind the ball. He was taken off for reasons more than just the yellow.
'Who wasn't?' is ok when it's Lukaku who needs service, but everyone else should be making things happen, including and especially Martial
"He was the only trying" I don't understand this excuse given by many here so far. I didn't notice he tried anything and was as shite as the others.
He had a terrible game. Since the yellow card he was looking to be sent off more than doing anything going forward.
These shite games happen anyway as long as it's not the rule.
He had a terrible game. Since the yellow card he was looking to be sent off more than doing anything going forward.
These shite games happen anyway as long as it's not the rule.
"He was the only one trying" is complete bullshit.
No one on this team is good when facing 11 behind the ball, stop trying to blame Martial for something the whole team struggles with. He had a poor game, but let's not act like the team was clicking on all cylinders and Martial was dragging the rest of the guys down.
Yeah, no one. That's why the first couple games of the season the opposition was broken down before Martial got on to the pitch. Still we get this crying that he should start. This is what happens.
His lack of movement is a real worry. He does not forage for space or even seem to see the potential rewards in doing so. He would be a totally different proposition if he would work for space and openings instead of being static/dopey until the ball is played directly into him.
He gives himself a constant handicap with the way he plays and it's a concern that he doesn't seem to be making strides in improving his spatial awareness and movement under the new manager.
The way he plays at the moment is custom-made for tight combination play with short bursts here and there - it's the only time outside of dribbling that he comes alive - but for us, in a team set up to try and work openings, he needs to be far more expansive than he has shown he is capable of being to this point in time.
He gives himself a constant handicap with the way he plays and it's a concern that he doesn't seem to be making strides in improving his spatial awareness and movement under the new manager.
The way he plays at the moment is custom-made for tight combination play with short bursts here and there - it's the only time outside of dribbling that he comes alive - but for us, in a team set up to try and work openings, he needs to be far more expansive than he has shown he is capable of being to this point in time.
Preaching to the choir there. Love to see both on the flanks.
The question is who would make the sacrifice to play on the right?
What if Rashford is still favored on the left, and Martial is understandably not impressive on the right?
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It is the Martial thread. Why would other players be talked about ?
He was bad and was rightfully taken off.
Because Martial is our saviour and he shall not be criticized
Should have been sent off, dribbled like his shoe was on the wrong foot, no intensity or willingness to help his team when he lost the ball.
Mkhitaryan is heavily criticized for killing our attacks but the same thing can be said about Martial. He constantly tries to take on 3 or 4 people instead of hitting the by-line and putting in a cross or cutting the ball back into the edge of the box.
I concur with your concurrence
I think his close control would be suited to playing in 10 role and rashford on the left lukaku up to
Insert random right winger from miki or mata or lingard tbh I might even prefer young there and Bring blind in left full
There is little to indicate that he won't get playing time if he plays consistently well. He started against Liverpool and was awful, and he started today and was terrible. I like Martial, and I think he's a greater talent than Rashford, but he needs to find consistency to go along with that talent, and he needs to keep his head up.
Some are so in love with him that they find offense in criticism of Martial without mentioning others. Every player is getting ripped to shreds in their respective threads.Because Martial is our saviour and he shall not be criticized
Should have been sent off, dribbled like his shoe was on the wrong foot, no intensity or willingness to help his team when he lost the ball.
Mkhitaryan is heavily criticized for killing our attacks but the same thing can be said about Martial. He constantly tries to take on 3 or 4 people instead of hitting the by-line and putting in a cross or cutting the ball back into the edge of the box.
It ain't a sin to say that he was shit, just like against Liverpool and Benfica.
TBH that's a lame excuse.
For a player with such talent he should be the player to unlock defenses for us, not waiting for the rest of the team to help him as well.
He had a terrible game, we should move on and no need to give him excuses for it.
Couldn't half find a proper fecking pass to his teammates the whole day. He frustrates the hell out of me whenever this version of Martial turns up
Its very common in this thread. It seems to be never the problem of Martial when he has a poor performance. When Lingard, Pogba, Mkhitaryan, Hererra have a poor performance they are demolished in their performance threads.
He does nothing. Tries to take the entire team on himself and then loses it. Needs to grow up and fast.
It's not his fault, it's Mourinho's. He'll be off to Barca in the summer and Mourinho will destroy the club.
He's not a winger. Premier League defenders figured him out after his first season, and he's not been able to adapt since. However, play him a bit closer to goal and it won't matter how predictable he is.
Thank the lord someone gets it. It's not that martial is devoid of criticism - it's that he is being so poorly managed by a manager who simply doesn't understand him. It's not just him, Rashford too - none are wingers and both are attackers that should be playing centrally.
No, we should not sacrifice Rashford on the left and push him to the right just to play Martial.
Really poor.
I think @Dante has a good point.
If we had better full backs, a 3 back system with Martial/Rashford playing off Lukaku would probably be our best system.
I think @Dante has a good point.
If we had better full backs, a 3 back system with Martial/Rashford playing off Lukaku would probably be our best system.
Players don't play in fixed positions. They will always move and change positions like how Ronaldo and Giggs swapped sides throughout the games. Rashford played in all possible positions today once he was on.
This has emotional investment written all over it. Mkhitaryan is a winger playing as a no.10, Mata is a no.10 playing as a winger, Ashley Young isnt even a footballer and is playing at both left back and right wing, Lingard doesnt have a position but runs a lot.
None of this matters when they have a poor performance, because if you are at the right level of quality you don't need the perfect conditions to have a good performance.
If Martial is as good as people claim then he should have no problem playing as a winger, he may not be at his best level but that is no excuse to put in such a poor performance.
Neither Martial or Rashford will get a wink centrally as long as we have Lukaku fit and Zlatan soon to return. They may get the odd cup game but that won't carry into PL or CL. We need a winger for both sides.
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