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He did well, but let's remember that he came on when we were up 3-0, when the game was won already. Like others have said, it's easier to do something against tired legs, while the opposition are leaving acres of space trying to attack themselves.

Despite having good numbers in limited minutes, he has mostly got those numbers in situations like today(as I said above). I don't believe he would have been brought on today if it was only 1-0 to us or 0-0.

Was he on the bench mid week?
 
That's really not true. It's just a case of wanting a really good player who's on form to start.

No it's true. You're just speaking about your opinion, which I appreciate, but some others can't stop talking about him maybe leaving in summer because of not playing, while the boy himself looks really happy and confident.
 
Congrats on taking a completely different situation and trying to argue that people are saying something they aren't. Now do you have a response that is based on what people are actually posting?

If you bothered reading what I was replying to then you'd get the logic unless you just wanna be blind to it

I used his exact words and just changed the names while getting to the same conclusion, what clearer response do you need

Refute what I posted and then you deny his post as illogical as well, fine with me
 
Electric when he came on, his close control is top class and that lovely disguised pass into Lukaku was a peach, then het got an assist, just a shame he couldn't squeeze in the chance when Herrera played him in.
 
If he can't start the easier home games against the shit teams I really don't see how he'll start the games against tougher opposition or away games where Mourinho will need his defensive wingers for a defensive performance. I've made peace with that. I just hope he's content with what he's getting and keeps contributing
 
It was savage indeed. We do that when we play among friends and it feels pretty humilating. Imagine it between pros in front of thousands and watched by millions.
Don't have to imagine - look at Townsend's reaction when he realises he's been done!
 
Are people really still spouting this tired legs nonesense? What does it even mean?
It means that if he does well in the few minutes he gets as a sub he did it because Rashford and co tired the opposition for him, if he doesn't do well then he's useless and erratic and they+Mourinho were proven right to doubt him.
It also means that if he does well in his sub performances then it means the Mourinho plan is working and nothing should be changed he should remain on the bench, if he starts to underperform then again it just means he is not starting material.

In other words he can not win. Proving yourself by playing well as a sub and win a starting spot in the team? Apparently it is a laughable theory on redcafe in 2017.
 
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if this guy was playing elsewhere, the world would be going crazy about him and he'd certainly be getting mentioned alongside mbappe right now
 
It means that if he does well in the few minutes he gets as a sub he did it because Rashford and co tired the opposition for him, if he doesn't do well then he's useless and erratic and they+Mourinho were proven right to doubt him.

In other words he can not win.

Exactly.
 
The front 3 for the French national team for the next few years is a joke, Marital-Mbappe-Dembele. And with some pretty crazy depth as well. Even more of a joke is realizing that their manager doesn't call up Martial and starts Giroud :lol:
 
I doubt that. Mkhi has to put in a defensive shift as well from time to time, making a run and back and keeping tabs on the opposition's midfield. Martial's defensive game isn't the best, obviously, so that might be an issue. Plus his change of pace is best utilised on the wings as it is.

I don't think Mkhi's defensive contributions are much more notable than Martial's. I think Martial's a much smarter passer than some give him credit for, and the combination of his close control and pace would be terrifying up the middle.
 
And they resorted to kicking him soon after.

Tony better get himself some sturdy shin pads.
Happens a lot to Martial. They're scared of him. I just hope that, like Ronaldo, he doesn't shrink from the odd kick here and there and instead takes it as a positive knowing they have to do that as he's that good.
I don't know if you watched Verrati being nutmegged by Isco in a recent match between Italy and Spain. His reaction was worse even.
I did not but I think I heard about this. I might have to look that up. :D
 
What a player, thrilling to watch. Would have liked him to start this match considering he's not playing for France but he was great when he came on.

Just wish he would start alongside Rashford and Lukaku now.
 
Happens a lot to Martial. They're scared of him. I just hope that, like Ronaldo, he doesn't shrink from the odd kick here and there and instead takes it as a positive knowing they have to do that as he's that good.

I did not but I think I heard about this. I might have to look that up. :D
Do that. It is a bit surprising because pros should be above that. In a way it shows you how self concerned they are.
 
The front 3 for the French national team for the next few years is a joke, Marital-Mbappe-Dembele. And with some pretty crazy depth as well. Even more of a joke is realizing that their manager doesn't call up Martial and starts Giroud :lol:
They'll get rid of the manager soon and appoint someone who's actually up to it. Then they'll be scary.
 
Do that. It is a bit surprising because pros should be above that. In a way it shows you how self concerned they are.
Just had a look and he didn't react how I was expecting him to. I thought he'd go hunting him down like a rabid dog from what I know of him! To me, it looked like he was a bit in awe of Isco.
 
Just had a look and he didn't react how I was expecting him to. I thought he'd go hunting him down like a rabid dog from what I know of him! To me, it looked like he was a bit in awe of Isco.
That is what I mean. He shouldn't be, he is a pro. He shouldn't stopped because he got megged, that's pathetic
 
That is what I mean. He shouldn't be, he is a pro. He shouldn't stopped because he got megged, that's pathetic
I would normally agree but I don't know the context of the game. Like, did it happen late in the game where he'd have been shattered? Were Spain winning by a big margin and Italy had stopped trying? Maybe he was instructed to stay further forward to initiate a counter attack? Still, it's no excuse I suppose. I guess, as he is a very good player, it was hard for him to take and, as you said with them being self concerned, he took an extra few seconds to compose himself.

Townsend did the same today. When he realised he just carried on the other way with his head in his hands. It's nice having a player who can do that to opposition players. :D
 
I don't think Mkhi's defensive contributions are much more notable than Martial's. I think Martial's a much smarter passer than some give him credit for, and the combination of his close control and pace would be terrifying up the middle.
I see what you're saying, and agree. But I highly doubt Jose sees this. For him, somebody making an 'effort' is enough, and Martial's body language might go against him in this argument!
 
I would normally agree but I don't know the context of the game. Like, did it happen late in the game where he'd have been shattered? Were Spain winning by a big margin and Italy had stopped trying? Maybe he was instructed to stay further forward to initiate a counter attack? Still, it's no excuse I suppose. I guess, as he is a very good player, it was hard for him to take and, as you said with them being self concerned, he took an extra few seconds to compose himself.

Townsend did the same today. When he realised he just carried on the other way with his head in his hands. It's nice having a player who can do that to opposition players. :D
It really is nic to have a player that can demoralize opponents.
 
Not sure why Jose can't try him as a CF with Rashford on the left if Lukaku need a rest. Or Rashford as CF with Martial on left.
 
Not sure why Jose can't try him as a CF with Rashford on the left if Lukaku need a rest. Or Rashford as CF with Martial on left.

This is what pisses me off. What's stopping him from playing Martial at left, Rashford at right with Lukaku at CF?
 
This is what pisses me off. What's stopping him from playing Martial at left, Rashford at right with Lukaku at CF?
No we need Mata, Mata may not have goals/assists like Martial or Rashford, he helps us recycle possession, without him our forwards would constantly lose possession, Mata also sometimes drops deep and helps build play from midfield.
 
No we need Mata, Mata may not have goals/assists like Martial or Rashford, he helps us recycle possession, without him our forwards would constantly lose possession, Mata also sometimes drops deep and helps build play from midfield.

Agree somewhat with this. I see Martial taking this role though being a playmaker and a wing forward - push Rash to the right as inside forward with Valencia overlapping.
 
Just watched KDB score a winner for City and its a reminder of what could happen to us. I bet some Chelsea fans at the time thought Oscar was the better player to bet on too.

I really hope not.
 
No we need Mata, Mata may not have goals/assists like Martial or Rashford, he helps us recycle possession, without him our forwards would constantly lose possession, Mata also sometimes drops deep and helps build play from midfield.

That could be easily remedied by playing Mata instead of Mykhitaryan.
 
Just watched KDB score a winner for City and its a reminder of what could happen to us. I bet some Chelsea fans at the time thought Oscar was the better player to bet on too.

I really hope not.
Martial scoring the winner for City at OT after a 200m transfer. I think I would cry for days.:lol:
 
No we need Mata, Mata may not have goals/assists like Martial or Rashford, he helps us recycle possession, without him our forwards would constantly lose possession, Mata also sometimes drops deep and helps build play from midfield.
You're just going to great lengths to make excuses for a manager having a mare, Mata can play through the middle and I bet he prefers it so. With Rashford and Martial flanking Lukaku we could actually look dangerous moreso if our AM isn't falling over or turning over possession at every other move.
 
5 goals and 6 assists in 9 appearances is pretty outrageous to be honest. He should beat his first season tally of 17 goals and 11 assists.
 
He's really coming along nicely. The reaction from the crowd was fantastic when he nutmegged Townsend. You can just tell how much the supporters love him, the excitement within the ground just rises as soon as he starts warming up.

If I was being critical I'd just say that i want to see a bit more urgency at times. He lost the ball at one point having had plenty of time to control it and do something. He needs to be on the move the second he receives the ball and i think he'll elevate himself into the elite. For me it's the one final hurdle that i would personally like him to overcome. I'd start him more, regardless, based on what he's already doing. But i just think he can be even better.
 
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