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Almost like a rotation
The thread has reached 102 page of continuous moaning and we're still in September. By this rate this thread will break the record for number of pages here.
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Hilarious isn’t it. Look how fecking happy Martial is at the moment. He’s managing him perfectly.
Mourinho only plays Rashford because he's English.
If you don't think there is huge internal pressure to make sure the English Academy golden boy is a key member of the starting 11 then you should post that laughing smiley at yourself.
Don't forget the CL is a meaningless competition so it's an insult to Martial to play him there. Or so one poster has told us.
I'm going to put my neck on the line a go with Martial against Liverpool. I don't know what gives me that feeling though
He’s even praising him in the media about how his attitude and mood is brilliant at the moment!
If I start listing excuses that have come up to explain Martial "justified" benching after brilliant performances, it'd make for some great comedy.
Now that people don't have the "lazy","quiet performance" etc excuses, some insane mental gymnastic have been exerted.
From "He's being rested"(despite playing less than all our first 11), to "Mourinho is just testing him", to "he need to comes against tired legs and Danish them off"(which hasn't been applicable lately given Martial current string of brilliant performances from the start).
Its absolutely mental how far some people are willing to go, truly mental and baffling.
It doesn't matter at all. It's a non factor. If Rashford weren't good enough he wouldn't play. The more absurd suggestion is that the most pragmatic manager in the world is refusing to play someone because he prefers the passport of a different player.
He does though. Started 7/10 games this season, coming off the bench in the other three
A character like Mourinho wouldn’t bow down to that.. look how it went with an intrusive and hands on owner like Roman.
Is there a law of physics that says Martial and Rashford can't both play at the same time? If not, why isn't Mata being benched?
This right here is all the proof you need to know that there is no agenda. I am as frustrated as anyone that he's not starting but there are no ulterior motives.
For reasons known to Mourinho (he needs to be asked) he feels he has to rotate them. The only reason I can think of is that Mourinho doesn't think either are good enough in any other position (exclude Lukaku cause that's not happening). So he has to give them game time in the same position. If that's the case, we're in serious trouble because the current situation is not sustainable.
What i don't get is, we have only seen both play on either wing for 10 minutes ffs. I can't imagine Rashford isn't good enough to play on the right if given a run.
It's because they are the same person.
Only 1 PL start for Martial, that's our bread and butter and Rasford still started as striker in one of those games, lets see if this pattern holds true when we visit the rat hole after the International break.
Don't forget the CL is a meaningless competition so it's an insult to Martial to play him there. Or so one poster has told us.
People are totally crazy here. We are doing great. Mourinho has rotated the team very well so far. Although people want to look for problems.
I mean, I could understand if we are facing Southampton or sth at home, a team that's decent and could hurt us on the break, which prompts Jose to select Rashford for his workrate. This is Crystal Palace ffs, they've been absolute shambles all season and this is a perfect opportunity following the CSKA game for Martial to continue performing and building his confidence. Even if fitness is an issue, surely a starting berth sends a signal that good performance will be rewarded?
Martial has had a single, solitary league start this season, all other appearances have been sub/cup games. That's squad player status. Pretending that the both of them are equal in rotation is disingenuous. SAF used to do the same, first choice starts in the league, second string play in early cup games and 'easy' CL groupstage matches.
Martial has had a single, solitary league start this season, all other appearances have been sub/cup games. That's squad player status. Pretending that the both of them are equal in rotation is disingenuous. SAF used to do the same, first choice starts in the league, second string play in early cup games and 'easy' CL groupstage matches.
So what’s the problem?
It's ridiculous. I mean we now seeing posts of the lad being alienated. He has been involved in almost every single game this season (I think it's just one he hasn't played in). That's a clear indication that he's an important member of the squad.
Reading this thread, you'd think he was being treated like Bastian or Rooney last season.
Don't forget the CL is a meaningless competition so it's an insult to Martial to play him there. Or so one poster has told us.
No one said that. The issue is Mourinho doesn't trust Martial. You can afford to lose a group game - hence Martial is given a run in. Once we get past those and into the important games, Rashford will be preferred because of his workrate.
Re Martial, they're obviously rotating that position, without even mentioning the fact he took a knock during the week. He played really well during the week, so perhaps you'd like to have seen him start this one, but it's hardly the end of the world. There's a good chance he'll come on and score and all will be well with the world.
Agree with this and you know worst part of all this is eventually either Mourinho or our next manager would realise Rashford is not that great or elite talent for our left wing spot and would be required to be replaced by better player anyway.
He does though. Started 7/10 games this season, coming off the bench in the other three
No logic or stats please - Martial is being rotated perfectly as claimed
After his utter collapse at Chelsea and the scrutiny he's under here there's no way he rocks the boat at United like he has elsewhere, he's a pragmatist alright, and that means causing the least amount of waves possible at what could be his last big club job, he isn't going to be the one taking heat for not playing the club's new academy hope.
Exactly.
Mourinho prefers to start Rashford in the league. But it's working. Martial is happy and scoring (he's been trusted with penalties). Rashford is happy and scoring. Both are performing and benefiting from competition. It's good management.
I don't approve of Mourinho's preference for Rashford over Martial, but I don't see it as the end of the world. Its' a bit of a mismanagement by Jose, but nothing that other managers are not guilty of occasionally.
He's starting all our CL games now and its' only a matter of time when he starts in the league. I will reserve assessment for when the season is over and we can see how Martial has been used.
He's starting all our CL games now and its' only a matter of time when he starts in the league. I will reserve assessment for when the season is over and we can see how Martial has been used.
There's another international break? fecks sake.
I bet you would say the same thing about Rashford if he played for one of our rivals.
I think most people believe that the kid needs a run of games. He's done more than enough to deserve that. He's been dropped by France, not because of his brilliant performances but José insists on what I think is a silly rotation.
He came into the club to be a #9, got shifted to the LW, and has performed well. Things need to start going his way.
fecking hell, this post.
It's simple really Jose is managing his squad and picking line ups that he thinks give the club the best chances to reach their goals for the season.
Some people are downright pathetic
You can't really accuse Mourinho of mismanagement when both are playing well.
I think that's the bottom line.
I think that's the bottom line.
Martial for me is arguably the most talented player in the squad.
Against dross like Palace we should be playing all three of him, Rashford and Lukaku.
Against dross like Palace we should be playing all three of him, Rashford and Lukaku.
Rashford hasn't being playing well though, that's the biggest issue.
Again Jose being the manager picks his line ups and manages his squad based on what he feels gives us the best chance of winning and reaching the clubs goals for the season. Not really difficult to understand.
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