Fantastic! this is what I expect every time he plays.
If he can maintain this level, our attack goes up to a whole new level.
If he can maintain this level, our attack goes up to a whole new level.
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This again?
There was time earlier this season when Martial was only marginally better than the like of Lingard while way less defensive astute as Lingard.
Let say we lost today game. He had overall good game, but in Boro goal, he neglected his defensive duty. Today he has a good game going forward that's worth the gamble. Not so much for some of his performance in some other game earlier in the season where he's not as good in attacking. That would be idiot to gamble on him on that sort of form and having other teams attacking down our left hand side (our left backs are shaky)
Edit: Martial was not at fault for our goal today. We switched to 2 at the top and Martial was retired of defensive duty at the time of our conceding goal. It was Mkhi's fault in this goal
It's not even about defensive work. Playing like he did yesterday he's a guaranteed starter. But he hasn't been playing like that. In fact, he started the season in piss poor form, following on from a very disappointing Euros.
This shit happens every season. A player is playing poorly and doesn't get games, then gets back in the team and plays well, causing consternation about why he hasn't played every game. Will people ever learn that there's a correlation between playing well and getting picked and the manager knows better than anyone when any given player is hitting some form?
Great to see him playing well again. He just injects a bit of pace and urgency into our play in the final third.
Anyone else see Mourinho ripping into him late in the game when he had that knock from Valdes after his missed chance? He was fuming at him for not hobbling off fast enough and shouting at him to hurry up and get back on the pitch. Reckon that equaliser probably saved him from some harsh words in the dressing room after the match...
Anyone else see Mourinho ripping into him late in the game when he had that knock from Valdes after his missed chance? He was fuming at him for not hobbling off fast enough and shouting at him to hurry up and get back on the pitch. Reckon that equaliser probably saved him from some harsh words in the dressing room after the match...
Yeah it's puzzling when people complain about how Martial has not been playing more than Lingard this season, while yesterday was only the second time Martial played really well this season, the other being the game against West Ham in Carling Cup
If Martial has been playing like yesterday all season and Mou still didn't picked him, then it's okay to call his decision weird or baffling, but Martial really hasn't been playing well this season, yesterday I hope was the turning point though, because we know how great he was last season and yesterday he was crazily outstanding,
Absolutely magnificent yesterday. With him and Mkhi on form United are up there with the best in the league.
He was excellent yesterday, no way can he go out on loan.
It's because we know what Martial is capable of, and it's a much higher level than Lingard. Then we feel it is the managers job to get that out of him. Then there's the fear that Martial will become disgruntled and leave and fulfill his potential elsewhere.
A lot of the time, a lot of fans think the best thing to do is play through 'bad' form until it's good again.
Exactly. And also, Martial lost his mojo because he was not played by Deschamps in the Euros. I called it at that time that the way Deschamps is treating Martial, it may affect his confidence in the coming season for us.
He reminds me of Nani in the way that you have to play them to let them get rid of the "bad patch".
I hope we continue to play him in the wings.
I love watching him glide past full backs with ease and pull back a cross into the middle. I love watching a winger like that in full swing
I love watching him glide past full backs with ease and pull back a cross into the middle. I love watching a winger like that in full swing
Looked like he was back in the mood.
Hopefully he gets a better agent.
He won't. Should really have a strong word with his agent though.
Yup. Don't know how people can't see that.
It says a lot about his attitude that he's been absolute turd for most of his performances this season and the week Mourinho has a word with him he's back to his best. This is the Martial we should have seen all season.
See what? That he should start until he finds some form?
But wouldn't it be unfair to the other player that performs better than him? Not saying that Lingard is better, of course Martial is better, but earlier this season Lingard clearly plays better than Martial and he deserved the starting spot, and Jose clearly gave Martial consecutive games early this season and he simply did not perform well
And Jose's decision to bench Martial clearly showed the result yesterday, Martial looked hungry, spirited, and and just looked threatening, something that has been missing earlier this season, for me Jose's decision to bench him earlier this season was justified because Martial simply is not performing well, and now that Martial has probably found his last season's form, then Jose needs to start him
Toatally agree with you on that. Against Boro we played too often down the right wing in the second half in my opinión and Martial was less involved until Rashford was brought on. Martial on form is more of a threat than Valenica as an attacker, I'd say.
yup I agree. even I was surprised with Martial performance yesterday. now, let's see whether he can show consistency and improve his performance or not. really hope he will be world's best player and United important player for longer time.
I agree with you. I was just trying to show how some people feel. I get it too, when players like Rooney and Fellaini (before this season, anyway) got countless chances but as soon as Martial had a little dip he was dropped.
To show another way, I'd much rather someone like Schniederlin got the games and chances Fellaini has had over 4 years here. But that's another topic.
It's happened other times as well, Valencia through his rough patches kept getting selected again and again. Nani had a bad game and was dropped.
The wing positions are high risk, high reward and they are really difference between good football and exciting football. If your wingers nail it, the whole game looks different.
This is a huge topic. Let's break it down and make it simple, not to derail the thread:
Nani has shite bottom level, and he only had very short consistent period with us. Valencia level is more stable. Even in his bad game, he's mostly defensively disciplined.
Rooney was handled right under SAF. You can't compare as Moyes and LVG's man management to SAF. Mourinho couldn't drop England captain right away, but had since successfully manage his game time well.
We lack height into LVG's reign and Fellaini is main pick for this. We improved under Mourinho, but at time still call on him, which Fellaini at time backfires. Schneiderlin lack's height and light weight in aerial duel. Was miss and hit under LVG with LVG preferred Fellaini for stated reason. Schneiderlin didn't impress at all under Mourinho.
Martial is lacking in defensive phase. His early season form was bad so he's not much of attacking threat neither. Playing a phantom player with a shaky left back position is asking for trouble. Mourinho did try to switch wing for Martial IIRC part of Watford game to no use.
Now his attacking side is worth the gamble, then he's playing more
@ti vu i dont want to derail the thread any further so let's leave it there in regards to all the other players.
Re. Martial. I get that and k already agreed with it. Switching to the right for part of a game is hardly a proper chance, imo.
I actually agree he should've been dropped, and if he continues his recent form over the rest of the season, great. Jose would've been vindicated.
Like I already said, I was just showing how a lot of fans think.
Re. Martial. I get that and k already agreed with it. Switching to the right for part of a game is hardly a proper chance, imo.
I actually agree he should've been dropped, and if he continues his recent form over the rest of the season, great. Jose would've been vindicated.
Like I already said, I was just showing how a lot of fans think.
What's going on with his agent and Sevilla? That was a really strange statement, I do hope he fires his agent for spitting out nonsense during the season...
That's the Martial I want to see. Was fantastic yesterday. Everytime he got the ball he didn't dwell. He went straight at Chambers and absolutely ripped him apart. Want to see more of that.
Glad to see him get a goal too. Was very well taken.
Glad to see him get a goal too. Was very well taken.
Got to admit I was worried about him from the first half of this season. It's easy to forget how young he is after the impact he had last year.
Hopefully he kicks on tonight and the front 3 start to develop an excellent understanding together to lead this charge up the table.
Hopefully he kicks on tonight and the front 3 start to develop an excellent understanding together to lead this charge up the table.
All players are different and will be managed differently. Many keep mentioning how much 'better' Lingard was playing than Martial and Mkhitaryan, but that narrative isn't all true.
Even since pre-season, Lingard was playing ahead of Mkhitaryan for instance, before Mkhi got a chance to grow. Also, it is often forgotten that Lingard was in fact even worse than Mkhitaryan in that famous City match too. He was just handled much differently, and not ostracised in the same way. He was given chances to prove himself again.
Even since pre-season, Lingard was playing ahead of Mkhitaryan for instance, before Mkhi got a chance to grow. Also, it is often forgotten that Lingard was in fact even worse than Mkhitaryan in that famous City match too. He was just handled much differently, and not ostracised in the same way. He was given chances to prove himself again.
When he's on this form, he's unstoppable. If he keeps this up then he will tear teams apart alongside Zlatan and Mickie
Impressive game that was, he looked unstoppable. It looks like Jose really knows how to manage his players.
Mourinho masterstroke. Tough love in combination by a surprise troll benching will help martial grow into that top player he can become.
You'd swear we played two days ago and he hasn't had much first team football lately or something
This is why I think he should leave...
Inexplicable decision not to play him today after that outing on New Year's Eve. Needs to be introduced quickly in the second half, especially with Lingard being rather pedestrian and missing that sitter.
Don't think Martial has deserved to play more than he has this season but after that performance the other day, you could hardly fault him for being puzzled today.
Don't think Martial has deserved to play more than he has this season but after that performance the other day, you could hardly fault him for being puzzled today.
Dude.
I really don't get how players can tolerate such behavior from their agents. I really don't get how idiots like this or Yaya's agent always manage to get top clients while it's pretty obvious that they making one shitty decision after the other when it comes to the career of their players.
Why is Rashford coming on instead of him? Has he been performing better? Does he have better dribbling ability?
He'll be in and out of the side until he sort out the agent-situation.
Might get an opportunity in one of the cups.
he's there and made the difference, more direct
He'll most likely start against Reading. He did talk about fitness issues so maybe 2 games in 2 days was too much for him.
Must be knackered from the Boro game, suspect Mourinho would have only liked to have played for 15 minutes at most. Rashford has barely played so is a lot fresher.
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