Well "many stinkers", he finished topscorer in the championship, and was voted best player. Many stinkers seems a slight exaggeration.
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I thought we were talking about the NT which like everyone else in that French squad has had good and bad games.
And regardless of him ending up top scorer, it still doesn't change the fact he had his fair share of bad games. Heck he even got benched in the Euro along with some other players who underperformed in their previous game.
There is also the matter that he didn't turn up for the final along with that entire French team.
His first match was poor, got benches, scored as a sub, quiet match vs Switzerland, scored 5 in the following matches, and then lost to Portugal, a match that could have went up either way. I personally wouldnt classify that as many stinkers.
I've always had some doubts on Lacazette, I just look at Ligue 1 and think it's so hit and miss. Given the money EPL teams have, the amount of times he has been linked with guys like Arsenal you wonder why no-one has ever offered enough money to get him.
I rate Dembele highly as well, apparently PSG are going after him which would be a shame because he defo could get a top club in EPL/La Liga
For me Martial is unique in that, despite his age, he so strong as well as fast and good technically. If he gets the right coaching and has the right attitude he will be a great all round striker - which is very rare. Seems most people want to see him continue on the LW for now.
And rightly so because his time to possibly change positions hasn't arrived yet. Still has to learn a lot.
With players this young our judgment is mostly a matter of personal preference because it’s almost impossible to say who will be a star and who will be the next Ballotelli or the next Pato. Personally I think Martial is a bit like Ronaldo, with the right manager he has the highest ceiling of all those Youngsters in France. With the wrong manager, he can be a wasted talent.
Dembele is number two for me although to be honest I haven’t really watched Fekir.
One player I have tried watching is Coman. He is very overrated on this forum. He works hard but talent wise his ceiling is very low for me. Same as Sanchez (the Portuguese one)
Dembele is number two for me although to be honest I haven’t really watched Fekir.
One player I have tried watching is Coman. He is very overrated on this forum. He works hard but talent wise his ceiling is very low for me. Same as Sanchez (the Portuguese one)
What do you mean by so hit and miss?
Edit: You are both talking about a different Dembélé.
When I look at Dembélé (Ousmane) and Martial, I think Ousmane is more talented but that means feck all in terms of who will become the better in the end. Ousmane seems to have a bigger variety to his game already (not to mention being the most two footed player I have ever seen).
My thoughts exactly LOL. I have little interest in internation football.
With regards to Martial's ability/skill, I can see a lot of posters are overly defensive about him, for some reason.
If he is any good and last season was not a one season wonder, then he will come good. If you believe he is a great player, then relax.
Given his dramatic loss of form over the Summer, I am undecided over him.
He was certainly our best attacker last season, but last season, our attack was average/poor. Some blame LVG for this. On the other hand he is young.
Considering all of the above, I am undecided about him.
Yep, Ousmane has fantastic raw ability, but he could quite easily turn into the next Nani too, nothing is set in stone.
I personally think Martial needs to be played central now, for a wide forward his positioning is too deep and he doesn't like making runs beyond the defensive line, he would rather drop deep and collect the ball, then dribble. It makes him easier to mark out the game like that, then he tends to drift inside. Would love to see him and Rashford as a 9/10 pair once in a while.
Crazy talk.
Haha I just noticed this - I rate both highly although fair to say Dortmund is a big step up from Celtic!
Hit & Miss in that there seem to be a lot more players who comes from the French League to the EPL with big reputations and don't live up to the hype and it is just a generally weaker league than many other European competitions.
Imagine being undecided over a 21 yr old notching up 17 goals in his debut season....
Who for example?
Plenty of people undecided on a 20/21 year old scoring 21 goals in his full debut season (Kane) in fact he followed it up with 25 goals the season after when aged 21/22 but he still has people being undecided... it happens all the time.
Love it
What's that about?
Was just about to post the interview.
Guess these quotes have not come from Tony himself.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/anthony-martial-manchester-united-fans-9055589
Why don't you go wum on a Barcelona forum instead?
Wow I can't believe they just made up all those quotes 
That's a bit weird. Thought he was going to be slagging off United fans when I saw the URL.
I'd say the Mirror got conned here. I can't see them just blatantly fabricating quotes and not be expected to be found out.Wow I can't believe they just made up all those quotes
I guess I think of people like Falcao, Origi or Cabella.
Not to say players like Hazard, Payet or Kante aren't good - IMO Ligue 1 is just weaker and I don't see as many players making it in the PL.
I've just realised that 'defensive winger' is a foolproof WUM-revealer. Thinking back, I don't think I've ever seen anyone use the term who wasn't just trying to wind someone else up. Unless you are actually talking about James Milner as used by Roy Hodgson, it's pure nonsense as a concept. There's no such thing.
I'd love to see him back upfront.
Play 442, Zlatan and Martial uptop, Rashford can rotate in. Mkhi and Mata/Lingard wide.
Play 442, Zlatan and Martial uptop, Rashford can rotate in. Mkhi and Mata/Lingard wide.
So you have in mind, one player who had a huge injury and wasn't great in ligue 1, one player who won the unofficial worst player of the league award and an average Ligue 1 player?
As for the second sentence, it makes no sense. Ligue 1 is weaker than the PL but it's also the league that provides the most players.
Falcao had an incredible reputation when he came to the EPL... Not sure how the second sentence makes no sense if you have understood it and replied.
Case in point: as you say above, so many players come from Ligue 1 but very few go on to be great in the EPL. I was originally talking about Lacazette and being unconvinced he was world class because playing in a weaker league. I remain unconvinced.
Only by those who were clueless or caught up in the excitement without looking at the context. Falcao was already showing signs of decline at Monaco before getting that horrible knee injury, they tried their best to get him ready for the World Cup but it wasn't enough. By then it was clear that he wasn't gonna be the same player he used to be at his best.
It is impossible to make conclusion about Ligue 1 players performing well or bad in England because there are many examples of ordinary players there who have exceeded expectations in the PL. There are no guarantees of success nor failure.
You said this just before we signed him
I grant you that you weren't that interested in signing him though.
You said this just before we signed him
I grant you that you weren't that interested in signing him though.
I looked for that quote before I posted and yes I was among the people who clueless and blinded by excitment. I have no shame admitting when I'm wrong
Good for you for having the guts to admit it. Most people would have gone MIAI looked for that quote before I posted and yes I was among the people who clueless and blinded by excitment. I have no shame admitting when I'm wrong
Good for you for having the guts to admit it. Most people would have gone MIA
We're on the Internet, I never understand why people find it tough to admit that they can be wrong sometimes. E-cred must be the highlight of their lives..
From Spain and Portugal, Falcao played 5 months of football in France, his reputation doesn't come from there and peopl enthuasism was based on his leevel pre-injury.
You have no case because you said that they don't live up to the hype, when most players move to england with no hype at all and no particular reputation. The players who moved with actual hype are the likes of Hazard, Martial, Lloris, Payet.
Edit: To make it clear, you seem to think that all Ligue 1 players are meant to be great in PL which makes no sense since most of the players joning the PL weren't even good let alone great in Ligue 1.
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wasnt it the mirror who came up with the "waste of money" headline? I have no sympathies for them
Came here to give him credit for the tweet. Good job
Twitter serves a nice function weeding out crap journalism
Twitter serves a nice function weeding out crap journalism
Not even on the bench? The feck ?
small injury.
Slight knee injury apparently?
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