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2016-17 Performances

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5.9 Season Average Rating
Appearances
42
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8
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8
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Adisa said:
Where as he for 60 minutes?
He changed the game imo, even though he was on the pitch through out.
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It's quite simple to answer actually. 1st..he played with Rojo at the left. That means Southampton was able to cover him better cause Rojo provided almost no threat going forward. Also, due to the fact that Rojo was having issues at the back Martial needed to track back more which blunted his forward contribution.

2nd...Lingard playing centrally. Lingard provides so little threat that Southampton was able to cover Martial better, same case as with Rojo on LB. If you have time to watch the game again just pay attention on how overloaded their right side of defense was. They were aware that Lingard won't provide much and that Martial is an actual threat and acted accordingly.

Once Pogba was moved further up and Lingard to the right Martial had more room to operate and suddenly we looked far more threatening. It's even more of the case when Mkhi is playing at #10...It's no wonder Martial looks so much better when he actually has some support in areas in with which he connects the most and are crucial for his play,#10 position and LB. Get a proper LB next season (or have Shaw getting back to his best) and Martial will explode. Having in mind how much was he covered and the lack of support he had he did very well.
 
Snow said:
Didn't track back at all in the first half. Also the left back doesn't affect how much he has to defend.
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Snow said:
Our LB is always more conservative than our right. It's entirely up to how the opposition plays how much defense Martial plays. In the first half Rojo was all alone with no help from him or the midfield.

He wasn't effective today because he played poorly.
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Snow said:
Not making a single run back are your words, not mine. I said he left Rojo alone which is true. Maybe it was because Cedric didn't move forward but Rojo was frequently alone no matter the reason.

No Mourinho wouldn't have. That's just guess work. The change was a tactical one.
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Do make up your mind please.
 
Handré1990 said:
Not his best game, but he looked better when Carrick came on. Does find a lot of space when we are moving the ball well.
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His average performance was not his fault, he can only weave magic when he is given the right pass in the right space. Southampton's dominance plus Rojo's average performance meant it was always going to be difficult for Martial to deliver today.

Aside from Zlatan, he is easily our most dangerous threat
 
i think he was ok today. rojo behind him with a performance like today doesnt help obviously.
 
He was anonymous in the first half, but then he had Rojo for left back and we never controlled the ball. We were just hoofing it.

2nd half when the game opened up he became much more of threat. Still not great, but ok.

He needs a decent left back behind him to offer an option. So many times he got double marked and Rojo was sitting like a centre back offering no option at all.
 
sammsky1 said:
His average performance was not his fault, he can only weave magic when he is given the right pass in the right space. Southampton's dominance plus Rojo's average performance meant it was always going to be difficult for Martial to deliver today.

Aside from Zlatan, he is easily our most dangerous threat
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Well, yeah, that's what I'm hinting at. Carrick controls the midfield and finds players in space like no other player in our team.

Edit: I actually said I was hoping to see Blind play today, seconds after his brilliant overlap gave Mata all the time in the world to aim for Mkhi vs St. Etienne. Didn't see one such run from Rojo today.
 
Snow said:
He didn't do any defending. Those are my words. Poorest performer of the day.
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All those highlighted parts from above are your words dude. I can't read your mind, only what you have written.

If you're saying Rojo was all alone in first half and wasn't getting any help from Martial that implies he wasn't tracking back at all.
 
Cannot see this guy ever reaching the heights we assumed he could. Flatters to deceive much the same as Januzaj did before him. Shame really as in theory he has it all in his locker.
 
Fracture90 said:
All those highlighted parts from above are your words dude. I can't read your mind, only what you have written.

If you're saying Rojo was all alone in first half and wasn't getting any help from Martial that implies he wasn't tracking back at all.
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I didn't see him track back when they went down that flank. Their offside goal and first goal, no Martial to be seen.
 
Been a massive Martial lover since he signed, however I have now started to become extremely frustrated with his one dimensional play. Is it too much for our coaches to ask to coach him to go on the outside. It would open up a whole new world for him
 
If we lost today the only difference we would see on here would be the thread titles.
Holy crap
 
Virgil said:
Cannot see this guy ever reaching the heights we assumed he could. Flatters to deceive much the same as Januzaj did before him. Shame really as in theory he has it all in his locker.
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He played a part in 2 of the 3 goals today. More so for the winner, his dribble really opened up the space for Herrera.
 
From our Europa league tie. Tony M., bonding with the lads

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He was anonymous for about 60 minutes then suddenly decided to switch on. His great run in the second half is actually what gave us some momentum in that half and we became threatening.

Up and down game.

Though I must say, the guy has real abilities. I just wish and pray to God one day he learn to get himself in good spaces in order to get the ball so he can be consistent throughout a whole game.

His abilities on the ball are ridiculous but his off the ball abilities/movements are seriously lacking. Hope he ones days learn the latter.
 
Gif lords, anyone got a gif or clip of Martials nutmeg in the first half, fro where I was sitting it looked like he had nowhere to go
 
Was dreadful today. He's got zero confidence and maybe his mentality doesn't come close to matching his talents. But he's incredibly talented, last season his close control was out of this world. That's not a fluke.
 
I just hope he gets his shit together, he's young but seems stagnating for far too long now
 
So much ability, but didn't influence the game enough.

For about 60 minutes, he was the worst player on the field.

That 1 great run he had in the 2nd half shows how great he can be, but he's not applying himself at all this season imo.
 
Thought he was pretty bad today, but we also didn't get the ball to him in good situations that much. There was one moment late in the second when he almost Giggs'd it, but he mostly received it very wide and with a lot of defenders ahead of him. Not an excuse though, he was poor, but I was fairly heartened by Jose taking goal scorer Lingard off rather than him. It showed that he knew where the greater potential spark was.
 
Mockney said:
Thought he was pretty bad today, but we also didn't get the ball to him in good situations that much. There was one moment late in the second when he almost Giggs'd it, but he mostly received it very wide and with a lot of defenders ahead of him. Not an excuse though, he was poor, but I was fairly heartened by Jose taking goal scorer Lingard off rather than him. It showed that he knew where the greater potential spark was.
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And it worked.
 
Biggest problem with him seems to be that when his dribblings don´t work then there isn´t much else to his game to have much influence. His movement isn´t anything special, he´s a very average passer and not that creative either.

But he´s obviously still young, so enough time to improve on that.
 
Mockney said:
Thought he was pretty bad today, but we also didn't get the ball to him in good situations that much. There was one moment late in the second when he almost Giggs'd it, but he mostly received it very wide and with a lot of defenders ahead of him. Not an excuse though, he was poor, but I was fairly heartened by Jose taking goal scorer Lingard off rather than him. It showed that he knew where the greater potential spark was.
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I thought his legs looked dead in the first half. I assumed it was fatigue but I think it was just down to the occasion getting to him. He settled into it eventually.
 
Mockney said:
Thought he was pretty bad today, but we also didn't get the ball to him in good situations that much. There was one moment late in the second when he almost Giggs'd it, but he mostly received it very wide and with a lot of defenders ahead of him. Not an excuse though, he was poor, but I was fairly heartened by Jose taking goal scorer Lingard off rather than him. It showed that he knew where the greater potential spark was.
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Lingard had been booked though. If Lingard hadn't been booked, the sub could have gone either way I think.
 
Adisa said:
And it worked.
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Ish. In that his terrible dribbling forced him to pass it to Herrera to float in an assist. Still, it's a positive in the wake of all the nonsense about his status at the club.

Damien said:
Lingard had been booked though. If Lingard hadn't been booked, the sub could have gone either way I think.
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Ander was also booked, tbf, and far more likely than Lingard to fly into a needless yellowy tackle.
 
He's finding it hard this season sides putting 2 or 3 men on him the minute he gets the ball, he didn't have that last season
 
Absolutely awful today. All he does is get the ball and run straight into the first defender (if his heavy touch hasn't already resulted in the ball going to said defender).
 
Apart from one run he was very poor today, I thought. And it seems that both him and Rashford are unable to put in a string of excellent games against good opposition, thereby claiming their spot in the team. It seems to be a couple of very good games or good contribtions as substitutes followed by bad or indifferent ones.

Far too little consistency, I'd say.
 
Virgil said:
Cannot see this guy ever reaching the heights we assumed he could. Flatters to deceive much the same as Januzaj did before him. Shame really as in theory he has it all in his locker.
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How about being a bit patient?
 
The issue with people in here is you are either great or not. I dont think Martial was great today but he was shit either.

I still dont feel like the team appreciates Martial as much as it needs to. The periods when he is "quiet" in the game its cos we are not circulating the ball to him quick enough.
 
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