Angel Gomes

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Been around academy football for a long time including with my own son but not saying I'm the barometer but the idea of a lad at 17 without clarity about his position may have been applicable years ago but young people's football education is very different now. What you say might be logically right but when you are representing the player or guiding your son, you want a clear roadmap to first team football with the caveat of a number of variables like the nature of loan moves etc. Good young players can easily get lost in big clubs....ask Pereira and to a degree Pogba. I'm sure Juve's roadmap was much better than utds which proved to be the case. Whoever advised Pogba proved to be invaluable to him but expensive to Utd.
Yeah, i can see where you're coming from but i don't see how any club could promise him a specific position at this stage. It'd have to be something broader like one of the attacking positions but he has that here too. I do agree with the 2nd part though, some clubs are definitely better suited to bringing kids through.
 
The lad is no doubt a talent but he's no Pogba at that age. The problem I have with so many of the young players coming out Utd, they are producing good footballers but its unclear what position they play in. Ok it's the class of 92 but there wasn't much mystery about who played where.

I'm guessing Angel would be a 10 but bloody hell, I know he's still young but what would be his pathway to playing in any of the front 3? It's not like Martial, Rashford or Rom are old men? Also you just know next season you could see another big signing in that position and that's without the Pereira factor.

I think if anything, young players do need to think about realistically their pathway to any first team, and if there one?
If Gomes is best as a 10 he could take Mkhi's place in a couple of years, he's not young.
 
Yeah, i can see where you're coming from but i don't see how any club could promise him a specific position at this stage. It'd have to be something broader like one of the attacking positions but he has that here too. I do agree with the 2nd part though, some clubs are definitely better suited to bringing kids through.

Nah not saying they have to promise him anything anymore than signing a new player. I look at it like education pathways. You pick the subjects and focus on them, you hopefully take that into college and then uni. It doesnt mean it guarantees a job but the pathway is clear. Pereira is a prime example of when there isn't one. How can he be in a position where the tour appears to have determined his improvement and place in the team? The lad is no further on than when he came to the club. If I was Gomes, I'd think how are the club going to ensure I'm around the first team. For example, there is no reason why he shouldn't be in the squad tonight.
 
Do you think we will not sign another forward player in the next couple of years?
We probably will. Can't see Jose putting his faith in a 18/19 year old, a very short one at that. :p Gomes would have to be the next Messi to become a first team starter anytime soon. How good is he really? I haven't paid attention to the reserve/youth team for some time.
 
The chances of Cristiano knowing Angel Gomes let alone actually seeing him play enough to recommend him to Perez is close to zero.
 
The chances of Cristiano knowing Angel Gomes let alone actually seeing him play enough to recommend him to Perez is close to zero.

Well his dad is Portuguese and his cousin is Nani so probably knows of him and heard what he can do.
 
The lad is no doubt a talent but he's no Pogba at that age. The problem I have with so many of the young players coming out Utd, they are producing good footballers but its unclear what position they play in. Ok it's the class of 92 but there wasn't much mystery about who played where.

I'm guessing Angel would be a 10 but bloody hell, I know he's still young but what would be his pathway to playing in any of the front 3? It's not like Martial, Rashford or Rom are old men? Also you just know next season you could see another big signing in that position and that's without the Pereira factor.

I think if anything, young players do need to think about realistically their pathway to any first team, and if there one?
What do you mean with no Pogba? Position or talent. If this is the latter then I disagree.
 
Isn't that a myth?

Nani is his Godfather at least. In an interview he said:


"Nani is my godfather. He's been amazing to me and gives me lots of advice. I am just lucky to have someone like that in my life. When I was younger, he used to be my idol. I used to watch him and even practice his backflips on the trampoline.

"I know I can't do that now!"
 
Isn't that a myth?
No idea, probably. To be fair there are different reports of whether he is a cousin or a family friend. Either way that link will probably be how Ronaldo has heard of him. There's also a picture of all 3 when Gomes was 7 or 8.
 
We probably will. Can't see Jose putting his faith in a 18/19 year old, a very short one at that. :p Gomes would have to be the next Messi to become a first team starter anytime soon. How good is he really? I haven't paid attention to the reserve/youth team for some time.

He's technically very good but it's a massive difference between applying that skill set against lads than against men.
 
No idea, probably. To be fair there are different reports of whether he is a cousin or a family friend. Either way that link will probably be how Ronaldo has heard of him. There's also a picture of all 3 when Gomes was 7 or 8.
Fair, he's probably heard of him but that picture was ages ago and a lot's happened since. There's nothing Ronaldo would know that Real Madrid scouts wouldn't apart from his personality when he was 7, which means nothing. Typical bullshit that guarantees clicks since it involves Ronaldo, Real Madrid, and Manchester United.
 
I don't think he is but that's just my view and I watched a lot of both.
I dont think age for age the difference was big between them and in terms of ability. Pogba does have a better physique which helps from the transition to a professional player. But in terms of natural talent I think they are pretty much in the same group. Elite wonderkids.

Not saying A Gomes will become world class/a future player here, that depends on more factors than just talent.
 
We take him out Escobar style should he try to leave, and send a broken fax machine to Florentino for emphasis.
 
I decided to look at his Twitter, still plenty of likes and Tweets regarding United.

This one, too;



Talking about how his debut was hopefully the first of many. I'd hope this is something of nothing, he's very talented, hope his head's in the right place because United is a great club to develop at.


Eh, he's gotten bigger.
 
I have barely seen this guy play. Is he really a pogba level player? Potentially I mean?
17 is a little young to be demanding assurances, but equally, he's probably looking at Periera and wondering if he'll spend the next 4 years being loaned out or sitting on the bench. Can see both sides tbh, but you have to be pretty exceptional to be playing even semi-regularly at a big club at age 17-18 especially if he is a #10.
Hopefully we manage the situation right.
 
I have barely seen this guy play. Is he really a pogba level player? Potentially I mean?
17 is a little young to be demanding assurances, but equally, he's probably looking at Periera and wondering if he'll spend the next 4 years being loaned out or sitting on the bench. Can see both sides tbh, but you have to be pretty exceptional to be playing even semi-regularly at a big club at age 17-18 especially if he is a #10.
Hopefully we manage the situation right.

I think he is better than Pogba was at the same age. Just my opinion.
 
Pogba did the right thing. Any young talent needs first team football as soon as possible. Find your level and then starts from there.
 
Seen shouts for Gomes to start/be in the squad today, won't be happening. He's put on his instagram story he's in bed watching movies:D
 
He won't be going anywhere IMO.

Yeah of course others are interested but why would he?
 
No chance will Juve or anybody else offer a kid more money than we can.

We will have learnt out lesson from Pogba before, it will just be his agent trying to squeeze every penny they can out of us before he signs.
 
No chance will Juve or anybody else offer a kid more money than we can.

We will have learnt out lesson from Pogba before, it will just be his agent trying to squeeze every penny they can out of us before he signs.
It's a matter of principle, sure we can offer bucket loads but if we just give whatever a young player asks for we look like chumps.
 
He won't be going anywhere. I think he will be involved next season in Cup games.
 
It's a matter of principle, sure we can offer bucket loads but if we just give whatever a young player asks for we look like chumps.
That's all in the past. We made a huge error not giving Pogba what he wanted, we've made a huge loss due to fergie's pride there.

If the same situation happens with Gomes we won't make the same mistake. What's another 10g more a week if he ends up being worth 100m +
 
It's a matter of principle, sure we can offer bucket loads but if we just give whatever a young player asks for we look like chumps.
Agree that we don't want to set a precedent of rolling over for every potential star but Gomes seems to be a unique talent and there have to be exceptions.
 
That's all in the past. We made a huge error not giving Pogba what he wanted, we've made a huge loss due to fergie's pride there.

If the same situation happens with Gomes we won't make the same mistake. What's another 10g more a week if he ends up being worth 100m +
If I recall correctly, Pogba wanted to play, it wasn't really about contract negotiations. You could argue we could have lost more had Fergie gave in to a young and at the time unproven players demands.

Agree that we don't want to set a precedent of rolling over for every potential star but Gomes seems to be a unique talent and there have to be exceptions.
You're right, there should always be a line though I think. We can't just roll over to any demand or every player we want to keep can just have their agent fleece us.
 
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