Angel Di Maria | £59.7M fee agreed I Maybe tomorrow...or the day after...

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Bwuk said:
I'd rather just play a diamond and keep both Rooney and RvP playing.

DDG
Rafa - Smalling - Evans - Shaw
Carrick
Herrera - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney RvP​
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You guys do realise LVG has already confirmed we will be playing 3-5-2/4-3-3

De Gea
Jones-Smalling-Vermearlen
Caudrado-Herrera-Vidal-Di Maria
Mata
Rooney-RVP

:drool::drool::drool:

Obviously, theres no chance.​
 
SolidState said:
You guys do realise LVG has already confirmed we will be playing 3-5-2/4-3-3

De Gea
Jones-Smalling-Vermearlen
Caudrado-Herrera-Vidal-Di Maria
Mata
Rooney-RVP

:drool::drool::drool:​
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We've just spent 28m on a left back.. he won't be on the bench.
 
Adnan said:
Rooney--------RVP--------Di Maria
-------------Mata------------------
---Herrera---------Carrick-------

Why wouldn't that work?
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Because that's not the LVG system. He's set to line up like this:

---------RVP-------------Roo------------
-----------------Mata-------------------
----------Herrera------Fletch/Carrick-----
Young/Shaw---------------------Valencia
-------Evans----Jones/?---Smalling-------

So Di Maria would have to play RWB, swapping with Valencia. Just cant see it, he's an out n out attacking winger
 
I'm just drooling over this formation btw, It solves so many problems. Mata & Rooney get to play in their best positions, so to Kagawa when he comes in for Mata, so we should see the best of him. We always look better with two strikers, which also suits Hernandez when he comes in. Rafa has always looked more of RWB so he'll be happy too. It just works !
 
MancFanFromManc said:
Because that's not the LVG system. He's set to line up like this:

---------RVP-------------Roo------------
-----------------Mata-------------------
----------Herrera------Fletch/Carrick-----
Young/Shaw---------------------Valencia
-------Evans----Jones/?---Smalling-------

So Di Maria would have to play RWB, swapping with Valencia. Just cant see it, he's an out n out attacking winger
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LVG has stated many times his preferred system is 4-3-3.

He used the 3-5-2 in the WC due to Strootman's injury. He's using it here because at the moment we don't have specialist wingers.
 
Adnan said:
LVG has stated many times his preferred system is 4-3-3.

He used the 3-5-2 in the WC due to Strootman's injury. He's using it here because at the moment we don't have specialist wingers.
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Correct, as soon as we get either Cuadrado or Di Maria in, our formation of choice will be 4-3-3 most likely.
Loads of posters here are stressing themselves over how new signings would integrate in the 3-5-2 but that is worrying needlessly IMO.
 
ravi2 said:
Correct, as soon as we get either Cuadrado or Di Maria in, our formation of choice will be 4-3-3 most likely.
Loads of posters here are stressing themselves over how new signings would integrate in the 3-5-2 but that is worrying needlessly IMO.
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I personally hope we go for Di Maria over Cuadrado..
 
Adnan said:
LVG has stated many times his preferred system is 4-3-3.

He used the 3-5-2 in the WC due to Strootman's injury. He's using it here because at the moment we don't have specialist wingers.
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depends what you mean by specialist wingers. We had Nani Valencia, Young on tour, only Januzaj missing.
I was under the impression he was playing that formation to accomodate who we DO have, rather than who we don't. (Mata, Rooney, RVP, Kagawa, Welbeck)
There is no room for a true number 10, and we'd be playing one up front, with 3 international strikers.
 
Bwuk said:
I'd rather just play a diamond and keep both Rooney and RvP playing.

DDG
Rafa - Smalling - Evans - Shaw
Carrick
Herrera - Di Maria
Mata
Rooney RvP​
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I agree, a diamond for me would make more sense, Di Maria has this incredible workrate, that gives us space to drive at sides, but at the same time gives VG the chance to keep mata RVP and roomey in the same team.
 
Adnan said:
I personally hope we go for Di Maria over Cuadrado..
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I think Cuadrado is easier to acquire and would suit either a 3-5-2 or 4-3-3, but either/or and our wings are sorted for quite a while :)
Cuadrado is a 5 star skiller on FIFA as well!
 
Adnan said:
LVG has stated many times his preferred system is 4-3-3.

He used the 3-5-2 in the WC due to Strootman's injury. He's using it here because at the moment we don't have specialist wingers.
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ravi2 said:
Correct, as soon as we get either Cuadrado or Di Maria in, our formation of choice will be 4-3-3 most likely.
Loads of posters here are stressing themselves over how new signings would integrate in the 3-5-2 but that is worrying needlessly IMO.
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a new winger and 4-3-3 is bad news for Adnan. Rooney would presumably take one of the wing roles, the new winger in the other side and RVP in the middle. Adnan would never get enough game time to develop. As it stands I dont know where he will play in this 3-5-2.

The romantic in me would rather he became a world beater with us than see him sold and become bigger somewhere else. He is the only thing that has soften the Pogba blow for me so far.
 
RedStarUnited said:
a new winger and 4-3-3 is bad news for Adnan. Rooney would presumably take one of the wing roles, the new winger in the other side and RVP in the middle. Adnan would never get enough game time to develop. As it stands I dont know where he will play in this 3-5-2.

The romantic in me would rather he became a world beater with us than see him sold and become bigger somewhere else. He is the only thing that has soften the Pogba blow for me so far.
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Adnan will have enough opportunities and out of all the elite coaches today, I'd say LVG is the most apt to give youth a chance.
I wouldn't worry about Adnan... lets get our transfer targets and focus of winning the league next year, there are plenty of games for everyone.
 
goin4glory said:
PSG are having similar problems to what City had when they first ran into money. In order to attract talent they massively overpaid in fee's and wages and now they're really struggling to offload a number of those players who won't leave and go play for 50% less money.

As for Di Maria being too expensive I don't think a club who pays 50m for David Luiz has much of a clue about value.
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I don't think he's talking about his 'value' per say, rather that with the FFP restrictions di Maria is unattainable for them considering what RM want. With no FFP you better believe they'd drop 50m on him quickly, without blinking.

Their biggest mistake was spunking that money on Luiz. Though it is said that it is club captain Silva's doing that they even went for Luiz in the first place.
 
Januzaj would benefit more from playing in a 4-3-3, he would play in the two positions out-wide or could play in Mata's position. I personally think Januzaj is going to oust Mata from his position in the no too distant future.
 
Adnan said:
Januzaj would benefit more from playing in a 4-3-3, he would play in the two positions out-wide or could play in Mata's position. I personally think Januzaj is going to oust Mata from his position in the no too distant future.
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Like Pogba should have waited to oust Scholes from his position? This is what I mean, Rooney is a guaranteed starter so far,Mata appears to be liked by LVg too, and we wont spend 40m plus for a bench warmer either.

ravi2 said:
Adnan will have enough opportunities and out of all the elite coaches today, I'd say LVG is the most apt to give youth a chance.
I wouldn't worry about Adnan... lets get our transfer targets and focus of winning the league next year, there are plenty of games for everyone.
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He is 19, great prospects start getting regular game time at this age. Add the fact that there is no champions league, again you would think we learned from the Pogba situation. There's no way his chances of playing increase if we get another player in his mold.

I feel you guys are just desperate for a signing.
 
RedStarUnited said:
Like Pogba should have waited to oust Scholes from his position? This is what I mean, Rooney is a guaranteed starter so far,Mata appears to be liked by LVg too, and we wont spend 40m plus for a bench warmer either.



He is 19, great prospects start getting regular game time at this age. Add the fact that there is no champions league, again you would think we learned from the Pogba situation. There's no way his chances of playing increase if we get another player in his mold.

I feel you guys are just desperate for a signing.
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Januzaj is now working under a manager who gave debut's to 16 yr old's. Dropped Luca Toni at Bayern when he was scoring goals for fun and brought in Muller. Don't be surprised if my prediction comes true.
 
Adnan said:
Januzaj would benefit more from playing in a 4-3-3, he would play in the two positions out-wide or could play in Mata's position. I personally think Januzaj is going to oust Mata from his position in the no too distant future.
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I don't think he will be shifting Mata anytime soon. Januzaj's best performances have been on the wing. In the no.10 role he was awful.
 
Adnan said:
Januzaj would benefit more from playing in a 4-3-3, he would play in the two positions out-wide or could play in Mata's position. I personally think Januzaj is going to oust Mata from his position in the no too distant future.
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Mata is 26, he is going to be a very important player for united for years to come, and unlike Janazaj, mata will guarantee us allot of goals, mata could easily hit 20 goals this season he has that scholes instinct for goals, right place right time and mata is a great free kick specialist. So why would van gaal drop mata? for someone like Janazaj who may break through. Mata gets you allot of goals assists, and great at set pieces, janazaj is learning who is not a classic number 10 that mata is.

Another thing mata has over Janazaj, mata fits van gaals system, janazaj does not.
 
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verminater said:
There is no room for a true number 10, and we'd be playing one up front, with 3 international strikers.
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In a 4-3-3? There are lots of ways to work it, you dont need to have two wingers either side of a striker. You can have a number 10 behind two strikers (though I dont like that formation myself). However I wouldn't rule it completely out in the short term.
 
Upgrade of epic proportions over Nani that can be. Please United make it happen.

The amount of assist and overall chances created by Angel was insane last season, not to mention his natural dribbling skills and that light speed shift from defense to counter attack was a real pleasure to watch from Madrid. Argentina missed that lad in the final, big time.

If this shall happen, Woody easily gonna prove his power on the player market once and for all but Manchester United itself would benefit from that the most, football terms speaking.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Mata is 24, he is going to be a very important player for united for years to come, and unlike Janazaj, mata will guarantee us allot of goals, mata could easily hit 20 goals this season he has that scholes instinct for goals, right place right time and mata is a great free kick specialist. So why would van gaal drop mata? for someone like Janazaj who may break through. Mata gets you allot of goals assists, and great at set pieces, janazaj is learning who is not a classic number 10 that mata is.

Another thing mata has over Janazaj, mata fits van gaals system, janazaj does not.
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No he's 26.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Mata is 24, he is going to be a very important player for united for years to come, and unlike Janazaj, mata will guarantee us allot of goals, mata could easily hit 20 goals this season he has that scholes instinct for goals, right place right time and mata is a great free kick specialist. So why would van gaal drop mata? for someone like Janazaj who may break through. Mata gets you allot of goals assists, and great at set pieces, janazaj is learning who is not a classic number 10 that mata is.

Another thing mata has over Janazaj, mata fits van gaals system, janazaj does not.
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Mata is 26

Januzaj under Van Gaal will develop pretty quickly in my opinion. Januzaj is quicker than Mata hence can beat players with a dribble which we'll give him the edge in the not too distant future. Januzaj is going to surprise alot of people this season.
 
bishblaize said:
In a 4-3-3? There are lots of ways to work it, you dont need to have two wingers either side of a striker. You can have a number 10 behind two strikers (though I dont like that formation myself). However I wouldn't rule it completely out in the short term.
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I was one who said you do not really need a true number 10, I called it borderline a luxury position. Even though mata is a great player, I do think its a bit of a nightmare trying to fit a number 10 into a squad where you have 2 A plus strikers. Has long as the spine is strong, I do not think it truly matters if we had a number 10 or not.

Our most successful seasons, have been without a natural number 10, has our 2007/08 squad shows you do not need a number 10, pace and brilliance with a quality defence and midfield for me wins it all day long
 
I'd love him to play the Robben role in LVG's formation but then again there are 10 players for 3 positions here. Still think he'll end up at PSG.
 
Adnan said:
Mata is 26

Januzaj under Van Gaal will develop pretty quickly in my opinion. Januzaj is quicker than Mata hence can beat players with a dribble which we'll give him the edge in the not too distant future. Januzaj is going to surprise alot of people this season.
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OOPS got it wrong there

for me like I said above, I do not think any team needs a true number 10, no do we need someone to play a number 10 to be successful. When teams play 2 upfront, one striker drops off anyway, and in a midfield 3 one of the 3 midfielders can get forward. So while guys like mata a great player he is, its still a problem fitting in mata with 2 A plus strikers. I would rather we had world class wingers, than top quality number 10's, it would make LVG's life easier, and easier to make a more convenient system, than converting wide players into wingbacks

Mata still will score goals, I still feel the best way to fit mata rooney and RVP into one team, is the diamond system
 
Oneunited26 said:
Mata is 24, he is going to be a very important player for united for years to come, and unlike Janazaj, mata will guarantee us allot of goals, mata could easily hit 20 goals this season he has that scholes instinct for goals, right place right time and mata is a great free kick specialist. So why would van gaal drop mata? for someone like Janazaj who may break through. Mata gets you allot of goals assists, and great at set pieces, janazaj is learning who is not a classic number 10 that mata is.

Another thing mata has over Janazaj, mata fits van gaals system, janazaj does not.
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i havent even checked it out, but i am sure mata is older than 24.
 
Too expensive even for PSG. Looks like if we want him he's ours.
 
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