He aint worth close to that, 40 million perhaps, but if thats what they want they can have him
Angel Di Maria | £59.7M fee agreed I Maybe tomorrow...or the day after...
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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He aint worth close to that, 40 million perhaps, but if thats what they want they can have him
Hilarious if he goes for that much. PSG are fecking insane. How in the name of jayziz are they supposed to keep in line with FFP if their spending these crazy amounts? Nobody is going to buy their players for such inflated fees so their essentially at a loss all the time.
Why sign Di Maria if we're playing 3-5-2? Nani cant work as a wingback bcos he doesnt have the defensive mentality, and Ronaldo wouldnt work there either, so why would Di Maria.
Furthermore, if were gunna stick with 3-5-2, we shud prob let Zaha leave, although i'd rather loan him out as he's an excellent winger.
Furthermore, if were gunna stick with 3-5-2, we shud prob let Zaha leave, although i'd rather loan him out as he's an excellent winger.
We aren't signing him.
Not in the front trio, in the midfield trio where he played for Real last season alongside Alonso and Modric to great success. There are reasons why LVG decided to go for 3-5-2 instead of 4-3-3. Whereas for Holland it was due to the injury of Strootman, for us its due to the lack of quality wingers, central midfielders and abundance of No 10s and strikers. With a quality midfield singing coming in we are potentially looking at a midfield trio of Carrick(injured but will return), Herrera and new midfielder. di Maria also provides great versatility and can easily slot in as a member of the front three providing pace and spark to reinvigorate an otherwise static game. So I really don't understand why some posters here (not you) are claiming we don't need him.
We're arguably only playing a 3-5-2 because our wide options are so bad it forces us to change the system. LVG suggested as much in an interview when he said he could revert to a 4-3-3 but then he would need a wing specialist.
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That's a fair whack of money for him, don't think he's worth it to be honest..
Top drawer but for 75m Jaysus you would want a bit more than Di Maria. Still cracking deal for Real, essentially just swapped Di Maria for James.
125m PSG have spent.. On two players. Due to FFP, they will have to sell.. Anyone want a Verrati or Silva?
Top drawer but for 75m Jaysus you would want a bit more than Di Maria. Still cracking deal for Real, essentially just swapped Di Maria for James.
125m PSG have spent.. On two players. Due to FFP, they will have to sell.. Anyone want a Verrati or Silva?
IF PSG spends £75m or €75m on him, i hope UEFA slap them hard, cuz they really dont seem to care. They're just following the same game plan as City and Chelsea did 3-5years ago.
Nonsense.
That is a good team, with plenty of technique, creativity etc. It lacks pace and width though but it makes up for it in presence of mind and fluid high tempo football from the front line. If we really need an injection of pace and trickery to the front line, we can introduce Januzaj and push di Maria up front with RVP/Rooney being the central striker. A bit like how Chelsea used to play with Drogba flanked by 2 pacy wingers (Robben/Duff/Cole/SWP etc). A more versatile signing than Vidal but Vidal looks the likelier of the two signings right now tbh.
i think people are obsessed with this 3.5.2 formation, i thought LvG used it with his Dutch team and now with United out of necessity\lack of options rather than it being his preferred formation, after the serious injury to Strootman for the Dutch side and our obvious lack of quality in midfield. I also thought i read somewhere his preferred formation was 4.3.3 in which a wide player in Di Maria's quality would be an ace.
All of that is true, although if we are to sign a wide player, the perfect fit would probably be Cuadrado, who has previously excelled as both a winger, and a wingback.
Di Maria seems to be another player blinded by money. If we are in fact interested in him, he should be choosing us over PSG if he really values his career. Just look at Cavani and Falcoa. All the money in the world but their stock has really depleted in the French league and they're not happy.
I still think that getting rid of Di Maria for Rodriguez is actually a downgrade. Rodriguez is a good player and was good for Monaco last season but I very much doubt he'll sustain the brilliant form he had at the World Cup.
David Luiz prank on Di Maria when they were team mates at Benfica.
Oooooh, we really tried to keep up with FFP. We made som really good loan offers! Didn't work though. so in the end, we just had no other option than to spend £100m.
"Of course it is a downgrade, Real are doing their typical flavour of the month purchases though.
Man Utd is the 2nd option. Van Gaal has agreed to sign Di Maria. Question is if they're willing to pay €55M. [ABC]
His price changes every day.
Indeed. In two days the price fell 20 million. I'm looking forward to signing him on a free in a week's time.
Would Di Maria and Herrera even work together?
The middle CB in the three man defence could step forward I suppose if needs be, but it does seem a very attacking partnership.
The middle CB in the three man defence could step forward I suppose if needs be, but it does seem a very attacking partnership.
I'd be very surprised if we don't make a few signings that mean we will only be playing the back three in certain games, not all.
Di Maria can play out wide comfortably in a 4-3-3
He can play the wing-back as well, easily. I'd say that's the most suitable position for him in the 3-5-2.
Don't really get the Cuadrado rumours as I think we're well-stocked on the right wing-back but I'd love Di Maria.
Don't really get the Cuadrado rumours as I think we're well-stocked on the right wing-back but I'd love Di Maria.
Would be a waste to play him wing back IMO.
I'd love him here. His pace and ability to beat people is what we missing. That's one of the reasons why we struggle with high pressing. We don't have many players who run at players and take them on.
This post is exactly how I feel aswell
Recall LvG said that if he were to switch to a 4-3-3 we'd need better wide options. If we go for di Maria we will surely be switching formations as required, opposition dependent.
Ducker and Herbert have mentioned that we have been monitoring him so it'll be interesting to see what develops in the coming weeks.
He never said that first part. I think he will stick to one formation and only change it mid game if it requires it i.e. we are losing.
Are people conveniently forgetting what I think was the main reason to LVG switching to this formation? The reason is, he doesn't want to play with one striker. And that is what the 4-3-3 will make him do. His exact quote is this..
"I can change back if the system doesn't work. With the quality of the players we have, I can play 4-3-3 with three strikers on the bench, but I want to play with two strikers."
I read that as, I dont want to bench RVP or Rooney so Im playing this system to accommodate my 2 best players.
If my memory serves, he said that within the last week and everyone said it was quite an indictment on our wingers. He said if we were to change formation we'd need new wide attacking players. I don't have the luxury right now to find the quote but will get it.
Brilliant player, but I don't think we should be going for him, especially not at the fees quoted in the media. If we are going with 3-5-2, which at the moment it really seems like then there is no need for him. He could play in the CM, but we have enough of options there for a more attacking CM already, what we need is a more defensive CM option and a CD. I wonder if PSG will end up buying him, how they will deal with the FFP? Maybe another shady sponsorship deal.
All his assists and goals in his time at Madrid
He said we would need "specialist attackers" in order to move to 4-3-3.
Its about time we had a player who can instil fear into oppositions with his dribbling and directness. Currently we only have Januzaj but he is a bit inconsistent and still young. di Maria also brings a lot more to the table other than his fear factor namely his versatility, workrate, creativity and drive. Would be quintessential as a midfielder/forward in a 4-3-3 position. If LVG wants him I can see him choosing us over Monaco. Their average attendance last season was about 9000(second worst in ligue 1) and they are still a developing club. Naturally I could see him choosing PSG over us for a few reasons.
However, if he comes here he would be truly appreciated for the classy player that he is and would be adored by our fans for his quality and industry. That should be pretty high on his agenda as he feels undervalued and snubbed at Real. He seems like a LVG player with his all-round dynamic game and would be one of his favourite players. He also allegedly made that quote about United when he was at Benfica, no idea about its validity though(could any Portugese league fans enlighten us?). In modern day football it doesn't mean much but could tip the scales in our favour.
- Playing in Paris is more attractive than Manchester
- They have quite the south american contingent there with Lavezzi and Pastore being Argentines as well
- He would be angry at the way he was treated by Real and would want to prove a point or two to show his real worth. Preferably he would want to win titles(esp CL) which we can't guarantee or provide
- More money obviously helps
However, if he comes here he would be truly appreciated for the classy player that he is and would be adored by our fans for his quality and industry. That should be pretty high on his agenda as he feels undervalued and snubbed at Real. He seems like a LVG player with his all-round dynamic game and would be one of his favourite players. He also allegedly made that quote about United when he was at Benfica, no idea about its validity though(could any Portugese league fans enlighten us?). In modern day football it doesn't mean much but could tip the scales in our favour.
i cant see van gaal sanctioning 50 million for di maria. hes like ferguson and wont spend over the odds
I agree from the player's POV it seems like unless you have a special reservation for Man Utd, right now you'd probably go for PSG. However, isn't it down to the club to accept a bid first, and if PSG can't give a good enough one then they won't even get to talk to him about contracts. And with all the FFP stuff they've already been stung with apparently they were trying to come up with some loan bid and pay in installments but Real Madrid aren't keen, where as we seem to be in a position to pay up front. So, maybe us having the cash will allow us to be the only ones to talk contracts with him.
lads this van gaal united wont bid 50 million for di maria. Not a chance. Under moyes yes, they would have. Van gaal no chance.
I understand that PSG might have troubles closing this deal but I would rather have a player who wants to genuinely come to our team and not like its a back-up option. Its not due to ego or anything, a player's desire to move to a new club is critical to their success at that club in most scenarios.
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