Angel Di Maria | £59.7M fee agreed I Maybe tomorrow...or the day after...

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Strange choice when it seems he might well be off.
Here's me being hopeful. It's quite obvious that van Persie is individually the superior player, but I think we perform better as a team with Welbeck in the side. One thing is for certain, LVG will have to make a tough decision with his team selection with di Maria signing and hopefully this is it. Personal preference though.
 
I'm not entirely sure how anyone could have watched today's game and not seen our wing play as being a huge issue...

Or that we were missing a central player who is comfortable on the ball, can carry it forward and has an eye for a pass. And has pace.
 
That shows how much the bellend knows about a team and their shortcomings.

To be fair our main shortcomings is a weak defence and a thin midfield. Di Maria would be great, but with a front 3 of Rooney, Mata and Van Persie alongside Januzaj, Welbeck, Hernandez etc... I would not say attack is a shortcoming.
 
He's clearly not a winger anymore, he's a central midfielder.
I think he is still primarily a winger. He played in central midfield only last year and yes he was very good and effective there but I doubt we will deploy him unless we have too many injuries. If Herrera and Carrick are fit, I think they will start and hopefully Di Maria on the wing in 4-3-3.
 
You lot do know Van Gaal changed formation from 4-4-2 at Bayern to 4-3-3 when he brought Robben? He won't be scared to do the same here!

He also said he can't change formation to 4-3-3 because he "does not have specialist attackers of the likes of Ronaldo or Di Maria"

All the evidence points to a change of formation. Those who say he will be used as a wing back(£63.9m) are deluded. Reassess your life.
 
To be fair our main shortcomings is a weak defence and a thin midfield. Di Maria would be great, but with a front 3 of Rooney, Mata and Van Persie alongside Januzaj, Welbeck, Hernandez etc... I would not say attack is a shortcoming.
Didn't we have this attack last year as well? What happened? Did we always out score our opponent? The problem is if the delivery was half better with the crossing we could have scored more goals. There is no one running at players on the wing except Januzaj and trying to create something happen. An 18 year old proved he is better than the more experienced players we have on the wing. Thats why we wanted him to start every game because he ran at players and tried to create something happen. He had the confidence to do it. Thats what was refreshing to see.

And thats exactly what we will be getting with Di Maria but a few times better with what he brings. He will help with the counters since he possesses pace and trickery and he is not afraid to run at his man and trying to make something happen. He tracks back and defends as well and is a versatile player. So if we do have injuries in central midfield, Di Maria is more than capable of playing there for a week or two.
 
Yeah, if we did manage to sign a top quality DM surely we could have this line-up? Would be a strong system and make the most out of the players we have.

DDG
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carvalho
Herrera DiMaria
Mata
RvP Rooney​
 
Granted that LVG played 442 at AZ, for reasons relating to personnel, I don't understand why people still think he's going to go back to this. He's never spoken of his intention to do it. He's only mentioned his preference for 433 and the necessity of playing 352 right now due to squad imbalance.
 
Yeah, if we did manage to sign a top quality DM surely we could have this line-up? Would be a strong system and make the most out of the players we have.

DDG
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carvalho
Herrera DiMaria
Mata
RvP Rooney​
Even with Carrick there it would work IMO. Carrick could sit in front of the defence and pass the ball around like he normally does without the added pressure of doing the attacking or creativity that he had to do so often as a 1 man midfield.
 
I don't think of Di Maria as a consistent performer. When on song he was brilliant for Madrid, especially last season, but there were times under Mourinho when he would fade in and out for extended periods of time. He's better than any option we have on the wings, granted, but we are definitely overpaying for him. I'm worried about the shitload amount of attackers we have, with so little games to play them in.

RVP
Rooney
Welbeck
Chicharito
Mata
Kagawa
Di Maria
Januzaj
Valencia
Young
Fellaini?

We need to move some of those names on as soon as possible.
 
I don't think of Di Maria as a consistent performer. When on song he was brilliant for Madrid, especially last season, but there were times under Mourinho when he would fade in and out for extended periods of time. He's better than any option we have on the wings, granted, but we are definitely overpaying for him. I'm worried about the shitload amount of attackers we have, with so little games to play them in.

RVP
Rooney
Welbeck
Chicharito
Mata
Kagawa
Di Maria
Januzaj
Valencia
Young
Fellaini?

We need to move some of those names on as soon as possible.

Welcome to modern football
Anyone moaning about how much this is costing needs to have a word with themselves. Our club is getting dragged, screaming and kicking into the top end of the modern day transfer market, after years and years of neglect and pound shop investments.

We could have had these players, at a snip of their current market value years ago
 
I don't think of Di Maria as a consistent performer. When on song he was brilliant for Madrid, especially last season, but there were times under Mourinho when he would fade in and out for extended periods of time. He's better than any option we have on the wings, granted, but we are definitely overpaying for him. I'm worried about the shitload amount of attackers we have, with so little games to play them in.

RVP
Rooney
Welbeck
Chicharito
Mata
Kagawa
Di Maria
Januzaj
Valencia
Young
Fellaini?

We need to move some of those names on as soon as possible.

I'm of the same opinion as you, until last year he was very inconsistent when I watched Real, 64mill is overpaying heavily, I also think we could well end up with the biggest bust in history unless we play him in a similar position that Real afforded him last year.

We have so many forwards, sure we could play Rooney to the left of Welbeck similar, Mata to the right etc, but none seem happy to operate outside centrally, and to be fair most are very limited when forced wide.
 
Welcome to modern football
Anyone moaning about how much this is costing needs to have a word with themselves. Our club is getting dragged, screaming and kicking into the top end of the modern day transfer market, after years and years of neglect and pound shop investments.

We could have had these players, at a snip of their current market value years ago

I'm just commenting on it. I'm not angry or otherwise bothered by the fee. Just surprised I guess. It makes a flop more difficult to recover from as well, I'm not sure if we have the resources to keep chucking money till we're at the top.
 
75 million?!? :lol:. Really? What if 4th isn't achieved? It seems united are a long way from contending,so shouldn't the money be spread out a bit for quality players . You've won everything,so taking a few years to rebuild would be the way to go-no? I think this might be a disaster(big signing like this) if united fall way short of expectation.
 
75 million?!? :lol:. Really? What if 4th isn't achieved? It seems united are a long way from contending,so shouldn't the money be spread out a bit for quality players . You've won everything,so taking a few years to rebuild would be the way to go-no? I think this might be a disaster(big signing like this) if united fall way short of expectation.

A fear that has been on my mind as well. Most fans are desperate for us to be back on top quickly, to avoid doing a Liverpool. But a flop after the huge investment will set us back for years. Maybe it's just me, but the process doesn't feel organic.

Time will tell.
 
75 million?!? :lol:. Really? What if 4th isn't achieved? It seems united are a long way from contending,so shouldn't the money be spread out a bit for quality players . You've won everything,so taking a few years to rebuild would be the way to go-no? I think this might be a disaster(big signing like this) if united fall way short of expectation.
Judge us after 10 games with a fully fit squad, and if United sign AdM they will be two players off challenging the top 4. And a club the size of United can't simply take a couple of years off.
 
Glad this one's nearly tied up. Next on the agenda: Vidal, Benatia and a medicine man.
 
Didn't we have this attack last year as well? What happened? Did we always out score our opponent? The problem is if the delivery was half better with the crossing we could have scored more goals. There is no one running at players on the wing except Januzaj and trying to create something happen. An 18 year old proved he is better than the more experienced players we have on the wing. Thats why we wanted him to start every game because he ran at players and tried to create something happen. He had the confidence to do it. Thats what was refreshing to see.

And thats exactly what we will be getting with Di Maria but a few times better with what he brings. He will help with the counters since he possesses pace and trickery and he is not afraid to run at his man and trying to make something happen. He tracks back and defends as well and is a versatile player. So if we do have injuries in central midfield, Di Maria is more than capable of playing there for a week or two.

It's alright having all these flair players but if the rest of your team can't control a game and get the ball to those said players in the right area then its pointless.

If Di Maria is the only addition then I don't think he'll make that much of a difference.
 
75 million?!? :lol:. Really? What if 4th isn't achieved? It seems united are a long way from contending,so shouldn't the money be spread out a bit for quality players . You've won everything,so taking a few years to rebuild would be the way to go-no? I think this might be a disaster(big signing like this) if united fall way short of expectation.
It's 48m initially, 5m at a later date, 5m if we win the premier league and the last 5m if we win the champions league twice apparently. So basically 58m at most.
Anyways, we're rich enough to afford it so even if it is about 10m overpriced (he's worth 45m probably in today's market IMO, but then again every big player that moved somewhere was overpriced I think), it won't really hurt us financially. We could probably comfortably make another signing like this and still pass ffp.
 
A fear that has been on my mind as well. Most fans are desperate for us to be back on top quickly, to avoid doing a Liverpool. But a flop after the huge investment will set us back for years. Maybe it's just me, but the process doesn't feel organic.

Time will tell.

I think we're in too deep now. We have to buy further to make sure the outlay to date wasn't in vain. A midfielder is obviously a must.
 
It's alright having all these flair players but if the rest of your team can't control a game and get the ball to those said players in the right area then its pointless.

If Di Maria is the only addition then I don't think he'll make that much of a difference.
Di Maria is the type of player who will get the ball to the goalscorers that we have. Herrera and carrick I think can be a very good midfield. The problem for a while now has been shit wingers making us slow and predictable going forward.
 
It's 48m initially, 5m at a later date, 5m if we win the premier league and the last 5m if we win the champions league twice apparently. So basically 58m at most.
Anyways, we're rich enough to afford it so even if it is about 10m overpriced (he's worth 45m probably in today's market IMO, but then again every big player that moved somewhere was overpriced I think), it won't really hurt us financially. We could probably comfortably make another signing like this and still pass ffp.

Where did you hear this?
 
It's alright having all these flair players but if the rest of your team can't control a game and get the ball to those said players in the right area then its pointless.

If Di Maria is the only addition then I don't think he'll make that much of a difference.
Oh course not. We definitely need more players. Like Gaz said, and I agree with him, we have three huge problems with our squad - Wing, central midfield and central defense. With Di Maria our wing should be okay provided we play 4-3-3.

I doubt we are going to spend big to bring in another central defender like Benatia, which is also what we need. But the real world isn't FM and I understand if we can't bring in a top central defender and no one right now seems to be available other than Benatia. No Champions League could also be an issue with him. Maybe he doesn't want to come here. You never know what is going on behind the scenes.

And finally, central midfield. The most important piece of the puzzle in my opinion. If we don't bring in another defender, I think we could manage but if we don't bring in a central midfielder, then we are royally fecked. Ando, Cleverley, Fletcher and Fellaini don't fit in and especially with the system LVG wants to implement. Thats why we are all desperate for us to bring in a top quality midfielder.
 
75 million?!? :lol:. Really? What if 4th isn't achieved? It seems united are a long way from contending,so shouldn't the money be spread out a bit for quality players . You've won everything,so taking a few years to rebuild would be the way to go-no? I think this might be a disaster(big signing like this) if united fall way short of expectation.
A decade of underinvestment seems to have led to there being a serious whack of transfer funds. I don't personally think spending big here would rule out another big investment if the right midfielder became available. I wouldn't have thought there's any possibility of us not bringing another midfielder in at the very least.

Personally I can't think of many things better for a struggling team than signing one of the world's best players.
 
. And a club the size of United can't simply take a couple of years off.
I think United are big enough to take time to rebuild the right way. It looks like you're following to blueprint of City and Chelsea with the $. Your name is big enough to draw great players without a title or CL football for a bit. Always has been that way. Have faith in your teams history and size to draw players at the price you want pay. I don't think(giant money signings) is the right path.
 
I think United are big enough to take time to rebuild the right way. It looks like you're following to blueprint of City and Chelsea with the $. Your name is big enough to draw great players without a title or CL football for a bit. Always has been that way. Have faith in your teams history and size to draw players at the price you want pay. I don't think(giant money signings) is the right path.

And why is that? What should we else can we do with that money then? The club has earned every single penny that is being spent unlike City and Chelsea.
 
I think United are big enough to take time to rebuild the right way. It looks like you're following to blueprint of City and Chelsea with the $. Your name is big enough to draw great players without a title or CL football for a bit. Always has been that way. Have faith in your teams history and size to draw players at the price you want pay. I don't think(giant money signings) is the right path.
We make more profit than every club in the world, what should be done with it if not investing into the club? Sick of this crock of shit about us and spending, look at net spend over the past decade instead of two years which conveniently puts us at the top, typical United analysis.
 
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