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Angel Di Maria | £59.7M fee agreed I Maybe tomorrow...or the day after...
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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I can't imagine Di Maria staying at Real after all this. He clearly feels under appreciated and valued by the Real hierarchy and his salary is noway reflective of his actual standing within the squad. Real are willing to sell him for a fixed price which we should be able to negotiate down a fair bit. PSG seem to have pulled out and I can't see any other clubs being interested as of now.
LVG clearly values him as a player and we are fairly loaded, with a record signing of this magnitude vindicating Ed's earlier words. It all just points to us signing him but I am still fairly unconvinced and won't believe it till its done.
LVG clearly values him as a player and we are fairly loaded, with a record signing of this magnitude vindicating Ed's earlier words. It all just points to us signing him but I am still fairly unconvinced and won't believe it till its done.
You've missed the point also - no one said they weren't highly sought after - i listed about 6 clubs who wanted Silva. My point was NONE of them were a Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka or as now Di Maria i.e. champions league winners, and none of them stepped down due to their move (and you're missing my point with Valencia - they were perennially in 3rd or 4th place but never actually close to winning la liga since benitez left them). City was in a better position financially (better wages) and wrt European football (finishing 3rd & 4th and going into Europe - steadily climbing the PL which was THE top league from 2008-2011 due to us, liverpool and chelsea being forces in Europe).I wasn't going to reply to you at first, but I could tell you put in a lot of effort so I figured I'd have the courtesy to reply
Heaps of clubs wanted Aguero, Silva and Villa around that time. Aguero was probably the 3rd highest scorer in the league behind you know who. They were some of the most talked about transfer targets of the time & were probably spoke about more highly than someone like Koke is now, or Thiago Alcantara.... plus Atletico were hardly bad back then. They were in the champions league just before he left and even when he left they made it...Valencia were also UCL regulars at that time
Dzeko was highly sought after and when joining City had to fight off accusations about going there for the money
Balotelli, Tevez, etc. Chelsea were all over Robinho like we've been for Vidal pretty much.. and he went to City from a champions league club, to them.
We can come up with reasons why anyone chose to go there instead of the big clubs, but facts are they were highly sought after and chose to go to City for "the project".
We also wanted a few of the players that they ended up with. They were just offering a lot more money.
Herrera and Rojo were supposed to be in the champions league this year for their old clubsif players really were as stupid as you think they are to reject a team like us just because we're out for 1 season, Herrera and Rojo wouldn't be here right now. Also I'm sure Chelsea wanted Luke Shaw, which was why Mourinho was crying to the media about the money we used on him.
A lot of players will move if the price is right. It's not all fecking doom and gloom like some of you think
lol the Robinho situation is almost the same situation as Di Maria
Also Builbao and SPorting do not compare to us - which is my point
- we should be raiding clubs like them, as it's easier than raiding Madrid or barcelona (we've failed perennially trying to prise stars from those two). Are you sure you read my post properly? I'm saying we should be getting players from Sociedad, Valencia, Inter or Fiorentina etc vs wasting time and the whole window trying for barca players (like Fabregas) or Real players.And the Robinho situation is not the same as Di Maria - the manager of RM at the time did not want Robinho. Ancelotti still wants Di maria. It's Perez and FFP that is leading them to auction him (to get Falcao to replace benzema).
My point is yes we can be confident we'll be back in Europe next year (Europa or Champions league), but not every player is willing to take that leap of faith when they are already at a big club. If PSG can actually afford ADM within FP there is a greater chance he will go there than here, history or no history. Same as Silva et al went to City. It is mainly wages in question here, but in this case we're offering the same wages as PSG..if he goes there or stays at Madrid it will be about football.
He may come to us, but I wouldn't bet on it. That's not doom and gloom - I thinkw e can get plenty players but not the absolute best due to our lack of Europe. Next year we'll have better chances with a better finish.
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He wants to leave, we want to sign him, no-one else can seemingly afford him. I think any deal depends on two things: How much he wants out, i.e can a wages compromise be reached? Tbf many thought this of Kroos too. And also, how much we want him. Are we showing a passing interest and walking on when Madrid demand silly money or do we want him to be our new number 7 no matter what?
Will be an astronomical signing if we manage to pull it off. Would really help transform the team.
You can understand why any top player would be hesitant to join us at the moment. We may be able to pay top wages but there is a possibility we may not be competing for tittles for a while. Last year really fecked us up.
Why the feck cant we just sign the best scouts from Porto, Sporting and Benfica in his case? Would save all this aggro
Really hope we get Di Maria but have this horrible feeling he will snub us. I just can't explain it, it's like a bad gut feeling that won't go away. No matter how much it points to us that he's coming, Im just waiting for that crushing moment. Does anyone else think this? I know the muppet madness is alive and well on this thread. I'm all for the optimism lad's just don't trust dirty PSG. I hope I'm wrong, still think Vidal is the more likely for some reason. Either would be fantastic, both would be one of the best summers ever.
The reasons they go to Portugal is that the league allows third party ownership, easier to get a European work visa and less of a culture shock, especially for South Americans.
This - it's not that they have better scouts, but that their country is easier to get into, especially for Brasilians - a former colony.
The restrictions that are placed on non EU players is madness IMO. Has to be done away with asap.
I thought thats what we had Antwerp for?
Express think we are not interested in Di Maria as it will stop the development of Januzaj.
Our attack will be formidable with Januzaj and Di Maria on either side of it. Its a shame our midfield will still be a shambles this season.
The Express said we were after Toure. Apparently, he 'snubbed' us.
Ah bullshite. How long can this be spun as more and more sought-after purchases make their way to OT? Any more than one more player and people will start complaining about bedding-in all these new players. We've a load of players still on out books with PL medals, now we've brought in an Argentinian international, the BYT of the PL and a future star of the PL. With Di Maria, this only augments an ever-improving first team and if we get, say I dunno, Vidal, then surely we're at a point where we can look at City, Chelsea and Arsenal and say "watch your backs".
From the Manchester United Facebook page. That comment
One of the best players in the world right now. I really hope we buy him
Thank you.
Verratti would be heaven-sent for us at this late stage of the transfer window. I'm a big fan of Matuidi too but he's a player who seems to do his best work further up the pitch, and we hardly need another of those. Verratti now and Reus next summer and I could almost be gracious about it if we miss out on Di Maria.
Still nothing?
Lots of rumours about Cavani to Arsenal, clearing the way for Di Maria to PSG. All Twitter bollocks anyway, so take it with a pinch of salt.
I thought it all came from that one tweet from the journo in South Africa.
Self feeding rumour. Mundo Deportivo ran the story yesterday in their transfer gossip section as Arsenal offering 40m + Giroud to PSG for Cavani. They described the story as being "from England" - then we get the twitter lot recycling it again. Mind you, Giroud on the bench in case of injury to Zlatan and Di Maria in, does have a kind of odd logic to it. Which is probably why the story appeared.
From the Manchester United Facebook page. That comment
TBH, I would have said the same knowing how awful Woodward has been up to now overall.
Manchester United lead the race to sign Real Madrid winger Angel Di Maria, 26, after big-spending French champions Paris St-Germain pulled out. (Daily Star)
But Di Maria may not move to Old Trafford because United boss Louis van Gaal does not want to harm the development of 19-year-old Adnan Januzaj. (Daily Express)
But Di Maria may not move to Old Trafford because United boss Louis van Gaal does not want to harm the development of 19-year-old Adnan Januzaj. (Daily Express)
Hope that is not true, he can develope Januzaj just as well as having Di Maria in the side - we simply must move for him if it is possible!
no reason it should harm Adnan's development imo, not if we sell Kagawa anyway (which I think we should if we get Di Maria)
Di Maria would be a fantastic player for Adnan to learn from as well
tbh I would love us to get a double deal for Di Maria & Khedira as they would both be a huge boost to the team/squad to have.
Di Maria would be a fantastic player for Adnan to learn from as well
tbh I would love us to get a double deal for Di Maria & Khedira as they would both be a huge boost to the team/squad to have.
The Daily Express are not worth posting. They are the Indy Kaila of newspapers.
Classic nonsensical hack dribble, they'll say anything to put a unique slant on a story everyone else is running. They don't care how moronic it sounds.
LvG has already given the answer to that.. "we don't have wingers of the highest level, like Ronaldo or Di Maria or somebody like that".
How would ADM harm AJ? ADM can play centre mid if needed...
Yep, or on the opposite wing, it's nonsense.
Imagine a narrow 4-2-3-1:imagine a midfield of Khedira+Herrera with Di Maria as one of the WB's
Rooney
Di Maria - Mata - Januzaj
Herrera - Carrick
Di Maria as wing-back isn't really a dream of mine.Di Maria - Mata - Januzaj
Herrera - Carrick
Depends what midfield he had covering him, but we'd need someone with more movement than Carrick/ Herrera, I agree.
Imagine a front three like this in a 3-4-1-2:
Welbeck - Di Maria
Januzaj
This will counter-attack the shit out of anybody, YO!Januzaj
Di Maria and Januzaj in the team playing narrow? Don't think so.
It's the express. They make up shit.
But if we are sticking with 3-5-2 which loaning out Nani while keeping Young, Valencia and buying Rojo suggested then that is right.
If we are going to 4-3-3 however it makes much more sense.
Signing Di Maria pretty much depends on if Van Gaal thinks it is time to abandon the 3-5-2 already and that we have the midfielders and CB's for a 4-3-3.
But if we are sticking with 3-5-2 which loaning out Nani while keeping Young, Valencia and buying Rojo suggested then that is right.
If we are going to 4-3-3 however it makes much more sense.
Signing Di Maria pretty much depends on if Van Gaal thinks it is time to abandon the 3-5-2 already and that we have the midfielders and CB's for a 4-3-3.
You don't think that Januzaj, who is originally an attacking-midfielder and loves to cut in to play the through ball and Di Maria who thrived last season when playing more central can play in a narrow 4-2-3-1?
He can play #10, not #6 or #8 in a 2.
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