Ouch. That is a blow for us. With Januzaj it always seemed more likely that he might not pick Belgium because he has never represented Belgium at youth level. But Pereira even captained Belgium's youth teams if I'm not mistaken and he seemed very likely to pick Belgium especially with his other option being Brazil who always have tons of talented players at their disposal. But I guess if his heart is set on Brazil, he should probably pick them.
Andreas Pereira
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Ouch. That is a blow for us. With Januzaj it always seemed more likely that he might not pick Belgium because he has never represented Belgium at youth level. But Pereira even captained Belgium's youth teams if I'm not mistaken and he seemed very likely to pick Belgium especially with his other option being Brazil who always have tons of talented players at their disposal. But I guess if his heart is set on Brazil, he should probably pick them.
The thing is he signed for PSV at a very young age so probably spent nearly as much time in Holland as Belgium and as far as I know both his parents are Brazilian so probably feels more Brazilian than Belgian
Read somewhere to today that Andreas wants to be a 'real' no. 10.
How are we going to fit both Adnan and Andreas in that slot!
How are we going to fit both Adnan and Andreas in that slot!
Looks extremely raw. Can't imagine he will possess the same maturity as Januzaj when he is his age and from what I've seen, there is still a lot of room for improvement in his spacial awareness, intelligence and movement. I don't think he will develop at the same rate as Januzaj; plenty of ability nonetheless.
Lets hope Adnan's spectacular entrance into the first team inspires the likes of Pereira, Wilson and Pearson to follow him into the first team much like Giggs inspired the likes of Beckham, Scholes, Butt and Neville.
Brightonian has this spot on for me. If he can influence games on a more regular basis he is another very very interesting talent
Before the goal I was not impressed, he is raw. But what an effort. I will try and watch the FA Youth Cup run this year.
Hes been outstanding loads of times, as outlined above just not as regularly or as consistently as Adnan was but imo hes far from raw.
Hes clearly learning different aspects of the game now, I think hes begining to take more responsibility in games. You can see team mates seeking him out when under pressure. It appears to me his team mates are well aware of his potential. He was also pure quality in the Milk Cup from what I watched.
He loves a tackle as well does Andreas!!!
Thats one of the reasons I really rate him. I didnt expect to see that side to him when he signed originally. Has he captained any of the various youth teams hes been involved with? He looks the type to do so in future anyway....
He captained the Milk Cup squad in the summer. Someone with a better memory than me can tell you if he captained the U18s last term..
No way cool, must have missed that cheers.
It was something i noticed in certain games when other players in decent positions were very happy to pass off the responsibility to him rather than take it on themselves.
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He never captained the U18 as far as I remember...that was pretty much Liam Grimshaw's job IIRC?
Cheers, admittedly I haven't seen a lot of him. There was some highlights I saw of him for Belgium, he looked amazing and I like the fact he gets stuck in too. He can become a good all round cm.
People talk about what a kid can improve on but we seen with Pogba, sometimes the step up inspires people to new heights. There's no real rush but I do hope we give more of these lads a chance because there's lots of potential there.
There is another United forum where a lot of his match compilations are posted. On a good day he is a complete midfielder. I don't think that he is that raw. He also strikes me as a player like Pogba and Januzaj, in that the transition to first team football will being the best out of him.
It's not worth comparing him to the likes of Pogba and Januzaj as they're those special talents that you rarely see. I think any that come through the ranks from this current group will have to go through the usual routes of loans etc.
I think Pearson would still be my pick from the bunch. Wilson looks really good though but I just think you need to be extra special to make it as a striker here.
I think Pearson would still be my pick from the bunch. Wilson looks really good though but I just think you need to be extra special to make it as a striker here.
I'm with Jimi, I think Pereira deserves to be considered in that bracket too. Pogba's probably the better comparison, in that both he and Pereira often look/looked absolutely miles ahead of everyone else in our youth teams, but also go/went through patches where they drift through games without doing much (whereas Adnan was incredibly consistent, putting in motm performances in almost every game at every level for us.)
I agree that Pearson is a safer bet to make it to the first team though. His potential looks to have a more robust future, whereas one bad injury or a lack of opportunity at the right time could easily see Pereira never fulfilling his.
My Dad asked me if I saw that brilliant goal from Anders Herrera in midweek. I told him I didn't know Bilbao played in the week and googled it but couldn't find anything. He was adamant and said he should be given a game for our first team. Weird way to put it but I agreed that I wish we had bought him in the summer too. "No, the one who plays for the Youth Team" he said. He meant Andreas Pereira and moaned at he when it was only a 'slight difference' in the names!
Anyway, I agree with those above. I think Pereira is quite special he just needs to add a bit more consistency at this level.
Anyway, I agree with those above. I think Pereira is quite special he just needs to add a bit more consistency at this level.
I agree with the view that a step-up to the first team will inspire him to really demonstrate his full range. I actually think his game is very mature and he isn't raw at all. When he's 'on', he can be brilliant.
That said, it's a catch-22 as surely he would need to excel at reserve level before he gets that chance to step up. He'd do very well with better players around him, but then I suppose the same can be said for any young player.
That said, it's a catch-22 as surely he would need to excel at reserve level before he gets that chance to step up. He'd do very well with better players around him, but then I suppose the same can be said for any young player.
I would hope that he may with Wilson and perhaps Pearson as well, be taken on the first teams pre-season tour. Given a chance to train and play with the first team might be the inspiration that he needs to take another step forward, with a view to maybe being included in an early Capital One Cup squad. The talent is there for all to see, it's now just a matter of doing it week in, week out.
this. hopefully a few more young players can make the breakthrough. and i'll include those who are already above the youth team age such as powell, lingard, henriquez, the keane twins etc.
Manchester United reserves looking to follow the Adnan Januzaj path
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9094205/
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9094205/
Nice to hear both Pereira and Ekan dreaming big. Definitely giving off the correct vibes. I hope all 3 will have a vital part in our future.
Anyone else get the sneaky feeling that he might go on tour this summer? I think he's another that will go into that Pogba/Morrison/Januzaj bracket of youth player in the sense that when he's ready I think he goes straight into the first team squad without needing a loan.
I was quite impressed with him in his last match when he came on as a sub, you could really sense the desire in him and he was taking responsibility as a player. Normally he tends to show his quality in drips and drabs and doesn't always impose himself enough.
But when he's on song, he's really good and borderlines the special potential if not passing the line completely. I think going on the summer tour would be really beneficial for him and would give him a real sense of purpose to really kick on to break into the team.
Our CM positions need a bit of an overhaul and I'd hate for this to happen completely with him left out from the picture. I do think within a couple of years he could very well merit his place in the squad and akin to what Pogba could have done for us, may well end up saving us £20-30m. He can play attacking behind the striker, but I think he can also play deeper in the midfield 2 of a 4231.
Interesting prospect nonetheless, but we need some of our older players such as cole to go out on loan so that he and Pearson can form a partnership together.
I was quite impressed with him in his last match when he came on as a sub, you could really sense the desire in him and he was taking responsibility as a player. Normally he tends to show his quality in drips and drabs and doesn't always impose himself enough.
But when he's on song, he's really good and borderlines the special potential if not passing the line completely. I think going on the summer tour would be really beneficial for him and would give him a real sense of purpose to really kick on to break into the team.
Our CM positions need a bit of an overhaul and I'd hate for this to happen completely with him left out from the picture. I do think within a couple of years he could very well merit his place in the squad and akin to what Pogba could have done for us, may well end up saving us £20-30m. He can play attacking behind the striker, but I think he can also play deeper in the midfield 2 of a 4231.
Interesting prospect nonetheless, but we need some of our older players such as cole to go out on loan so that he and Pearson can form a partnership together.
There will be a number of youngsters in the touring party due to the recovery of senior players from the World Cup. He has a chance, as does Wilson, Pearson etc.
Aye, this year's summer tour will have a fair number of youth players involved with it being a World Cup year and all.
Joyce seems very focused on defense and positioning for the U21s, while I feel that McGuinness is more focused on attacking and getting players to show their talents.
Pereira definitely has shown some amazing talent, but it will be a challenge for him to show the tactical and defensive discipline required to play for the U21s, and even more so for the first team.
I have great hope for him, I think he'll get to go on tour next summer. Hopefully he spends next season in the U21s and gets a chance to really shine, and can come into the squad for the 2015-16 season.
Pereira definitely has shown some amazing talent, but it will be a challenge for him to show the tactical and defensive discipline required to play for the U21s, and even more so for the first team.
I have great hope for him, I think he'll get to go on tour next summer. Hopefully he spends next season in the U21s and gets a chance to really shine, and can come into the squad for the 2015-16 season.
I think that is a bit unfair on Joyce. It's his job to get players ready for the first team, so there is more emphasis on increasing the physical attributes and 'toughening' up the players. Within that players are definitely encouraged to express themselves.
Yeah agree with that datura, I was sometimes unfair on Joyce last year not aporeciating what he does, but he didn't have the strikers to play how he may have wanted to.
For example, Zaha coming on the other day showed that he gives players the license to express themselves. He's always shouting orders to his players and I think he's actually pretty good.
For example, Zaha coming on the other day showed that he gives players the license to express themselves. He's always shouting orders to his players and I think he's actually pretty good.
I think he's special, I just think he needed to impose himself on games a bit more consistently which he seems to be doing atm, and hopefully that continues. I really hope him and a few others go on tour.
He said earlier that his first goal wAs to make our pre season squad, and then hopefully start staking a real claim.
I think it makes perfect sense they way we do it, worrying less about results at U18 level and more about attacking. But if a player is going to hope to break into the first team they'll need the sort of tactical and defensive focus that Joyce brings.
I was trying to say that Pereira still needs that part of his game developed, and that stepping up to the U21s should show us if he can be well rounded and disciplined enough to play for United. He definitely has the creativity.
I don't think there's necessarily any more focus on results in the u21s. In general the emphasis is on the development of players, not the winning of trophies or league position.
Our midfielders are barely internationals, so he may not benefit much there.
I've certainly heard Joyce talk about the importance of getting results, even if the performance has had issues. Of course player development is first, but you want a player to know how to win as well. Probably a lot of that is in the defensive tactics and such that get more focus at U21s.
If that isn't a first-team player then ......
I said in another thread that I think he is ready for some involvement now. He certainly looks to be in the bracket of talent that we will strongly regret if we let go. I watch him and then watch a player like Toni Kroos who we've been linked with for big money. I think that Andreas could become better than him personally, or certainly as good. If we were not in such a shite position in the first-team, I would be very satisfied if we just signed a good #4, but let him grow into the creative #8 role. Tbh I'd have few objections if we let him do a Januzaj next season.