And we did give him a chance. He impressed in the pre-season. Unfortunately, he hasn't done so in the 10 appearances.
Agreed, it's time to give youngsters a chance. Gomes, Garner and Gribbin (when he comes back).
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Agreed, it's time to give youngsters a chance. Gomes, Garner and Gribbin (when he comes back).
Yet again incorrect stats. How can anyone have watched the game and think he never recovered the ball? Not to mention whoscored have him an interception anyway.
Gribbin is done, will never wear the shirt at any level again.
There was one good long ball to Rashford and a moment where he almost found Mata in the box. Apart from that, most of his passing was unadventurous, at times a bit negative. Not impressed by him pulling out of a 50-50 in midfield. Didn't sense the danger when robbed in possession for their first goal.
He does have technical ability but whether he has enough to stand out at PL level is debatable. Perhaps if given a longer run in the team, we might see him reveal more of his qualities.
Personally, I don't see him as a sensible replacement for Herrera in this system. It rather assumes that Herrera's physical contribution to the team, his hard-work, isn't that important.
I wonder if he could perform Mata's role, though I doubt we will ever know.
Anyway, he'll be lucky to get another start in the PL this season.
He does have technical ability but whether he has enough to stand out at PL level is debatable. Perhaps if given a longer run in the team, we might see him reveal more of his qualities.
Personally, I don't see him as a sensible replacement for Herrera in this system. It rather assumes that Herrera's physical contribution to the team, his hard-work, isn't that important.
I wonder if he could perform Mata's role, though I doubt we will ever know.
Anyway, he'll be lucky to get another start in the PL this season.
Those recovery stats are damning. I was actually thinking during the game that the burnley MFs were looking more composed than he was. He seemed nervous like the pressure got to him.
I think if Herrera starts tonight, we would have won the match.
I think if Herrera starts tonight, we would have won the match.
You are right, he has 1 interception. 1 single interception in 63 minutes he played. Everything I said I stand by it, he is awful but since he is a caf favorite he won't receive the stick he deserves.
Just imagine Fred or McTomminay having the game he had, what would had been said?
Lets stop protecting him, like I said enough is enough.
I was a fairly big supporter of his before but he hasn't impressed in many of his appearances and last night was just a serious issue. I would have initially passed it off as a lack of games so a bit rusty but nothing he did really filled me with any confidence. All the 'good' things are what you'd expect (like when he won his only 50/50 in their half) but otherwise it was just more shit than good
It seems really harsh to be judging him after so long out. His career still hasn't really gotten started, lots of time on benches, lots of time being asked to play multiple roles. I still suspect there's a player in there but it's difficult to see it happening for him here.
Pretty much.
I think he has the quality to become a good player but he doesn't take responsibility. That was the criticism after the Leicester game when he hid quite a bit early in the season. After that he was out of the team (though he had a good pre-season). There was a time tonight where he should have challenged for a header but he cowered. He rarely showed for the ball in tricky areas like Pogba and Matic do all the time, and when he did he practically gave them a goal. He's got one hell of a task to prove himself at this club. But there is a good player in there if he can find some courage.
probably more shit than good tonight but Jones did serve him a hospital pass for the goal. That’s never going to do your confidence any good. But hey...pereira is younger and far far less experienced than Jones and both appear to be stealing a living way above what I could even dream of.
He’s a nothing player. The comparisons to Cleverley are apt.
Another player overrated by the CAF for no reason.
Always a potential. He lost the moment to step up some time ago and i don’t think it’s now going to happen for him. Two or three years ago he was a diamond but now he looks less than average. I think the Sacked One had a lot to do with his rapid decline.
He made 1 interception so thats not true.
Its not a lot but there have been plenty of games this season where our midfielders won the ball back 1 time themselves. Matic had performances like that and he was playing DM, while Andreas today was playing RCM further up.
He also made 2 fouls to break up play when he couldnt win the ball another way. Lindelof made 2 fouls as well
Overall he made 1 key pass but mostly his distribution was just to keep the ball moving, nothing complicated. He made 1 successful dribble as well
It certainly wasnt a good performance but nowhere near as bad as you just made out by ignoring what he actually did do. His passing stats are very close to Pogba's despite Pogba playing longer and Pogba also being tackled 3 times on top of it.
Passing stats say nothing when they are sideway passes, obviously Pogba has a medium pass rating since he plays through balls and difficult passes which will often end up intercepted, to give some example Phil Jones has over 90+% pass rating.
The only thing Pereira did was that pass to Mata, but add that he only recovered 1 ball, lost it 14 times while playing safe and his brainfart on lossing the ball for the first Burnley goal its an attrocious performance. I seriously don't know what haves to happen so people can realize he is not good enough.
Everytime he has a bad performance people claim he needs time, different position, different tactics, different players around him, but it's never his fault. Like I said if he was good enough he should had showed it by now.
Apparently 0 to 1 interception makes a lot of difference for some to mention it as wrong ? It's a disgusting stat for a midfielder either way.
He doesn't seem to be a United player and that will literally be the case pretty soon. Maybe he's one of those players who impressed more in training than in actual games going by Ole's recent comments.
Every time he plays he just continues to reinforce this. Move him on ffs
Anything in particular happen?
I have never understood the hype around him, because he's never been around United quality. Guess it's the outcome of the lack of quality CMs at the club at all levels, people overrated him because of a need, rather than him actually having the quality
He probably is a skillful player and that impressed the coaching staff behind the scenes. But on the pitch he's very ponderous and self indulgant. Also lacks the drive and incisiveness (in his passing) that you'd expect from a creative CM at a big club. I saw more fearlessness from Gomes in his little cameo to be honest.
Horrible attitude problems apparently.
One of our best performers in the last 3 or 4 pre seasons so it wasn't for no reason. He's still got potential, he's just probably going to have to move to somewhere like Spain permanently to grow as a player. It's pretty conclusive he isn't at the required level just yet.
Injured again?
Attitude problems
What did he do?
Not sure. Khoazany and JB implied it was an attitude problem though.
Its horrible to see him play
Please selling him, it's disgusting for losing 2 points because of him
Very overrated
Please selling him, it's disgusting for losing 2 points because of him
Very overrated
That was a really bad play to give up that goal. When Jones gives him that pass the whole idea is to give it right back on his first touch, then make a run to receive the ball again. It's done all the time when midfielders have opponents around them. The last thing you do is take a couple of touches. Not in that position. Either that, or it's a first time touch out to Lindeloff who was making space down the right and ended up being caught out once Peirrara lost the ball. Amateur stuff from a kid who I think we all had such high hopes for a few years ago...
I have seen nothing from him to suggest he's a good enough player for United. I don't think preseason matters much in the grand scheme of things anyway so not sure why that is given so much importance when justifying his poor first team performances.
I want to see more of the kid. Still not sure what his best position is but I sense a decent squad player in there.
Spot on. We need to move him on.
Cleverly 2.0
Did better once he kept things really simple in possession, but if he's going to do that then his physical limitations mean he can't really play for us. His lack of strength and quickness over a couple yards really stood out, and he'll almost certainly never be the almost genius Mata is on or off the ball creatively.
Might have to go somewhere he can play in a 4-4-2 where they play central midfielders wide like Watford or Palace have been doing. His being 2-footed and his long range passing (awful today but generally good) and shooting seem like enough for him to have a useful career as a mid-table player in a top league, but it's tough to see more than that anymore. Did play scared today though so maybe he'll just be a late bloomer mentally.
Might have to go somewhere he can play in a 4-4-2 where they play central midfielders wide like Watford or Palace have been doing. His being 2-footed and his long range passing (awful today but generally good) and shooting seem like enough for him to have a useful career as a mid-table player in a top league, but it's tough to see more than that anymore. Did play scared today though so maybe he'll just be a late bloomer mentally.
Has great technical ability, two footed, good passing range.
Unfortunately he just isn't mentally ready. His decision making is poor & too slow for the EPL midfield.
He needs a loan as a CM not a winger. Unfortunately with his ccntract we just ran out of time with him. Will be decent elsewhere if given time/experience
Unfortunately he just isn't mentally ready. His decision making is poor & too slow for the EPL midfield.
He needs a loan as a CM not a winger. Unfortunately with his ccntract we just ran out of time with him. Will be decent elsewhere if given time/experience
Not a Jose type player. He is a creative player, but not tall and can't defend. Jose doesn't rate creative players, he just wants thugs in his team.
People wanted him to replace Matic 
The only way he should be getting any minutes is if we are 3-0 up.
Cleverly contributed and achieved far more with us
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