That's mind blowing for me. It's a very simple stat but powerful for me. I am surprised we have continued with DDG for 2 more seasons despite seeing the difference Henderson made. The club should have moved on from DDG 2 yrs ago. There may have been intangible leadership benefits but still...
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That's mind blowing for me. It's a very simple stat but powerful for me. I am surprised we have continued with DDG for 2 more seasons despite seeing the difference Henderson made. The club should have moved on from DDG 2 yrs ago. There may have been intangible leadership benefits but still...
Are we signing a GK Bailly?
Stats are problematic, especially for judging gk. Stats for DeGea this season are skewed because of three big defeats where the whole team underperformed. There is also the fact that we had the most clean sheets.
What made me change my mind about keeping DeGea is his mistakes in the Sevilla game especially and the second goal in the FA cup final. That combined with the blunder against Newcastle, and his lack of physical presence in the box has offset the points he saved for us this season. He folds under pressure which we cannot tolerate.
My opinion changed not because of stats but because of decisive moments where he let us down. It is also time to get a modern gk and get rid of his high wages.
I see where this comparison comes from.
Onana was instrumental in two excellent CL runs with Ajax and Inter, something that Bailly can find really hard to match.
Ten Hag wasn't even our manager when Onana signed his contract with Inter.
Agree completely - De Gea has never been a great ball player but he has shown not being capable of handling big moments. Which is absolutely deal breaker for me as well. We need to replace asap.
Because we had no idea that our new manager, be it poch or him, would want a new goalkeeper who was good with his feet? Seems like bad planning?
It's not as if we didn't already know this club is poor at thinking ahead and planning in advance. As if they'd have took it upon themselves to sign Onana for free to replace a keeper they handed a £375k per week contract to, all without having a permanent manager in place
It's all irrelevant anyway. All that matters is we finally have a manager with some sense who wants to resolve the GK issue.
Getting ridiculous how often people are saying we could have got him for free.
Inter signed him before ten hag joined us as you've said.
There's also the fact that United would never have replaced DeGea with a keeper coming off a drugs ban.
Onana really needed this season with Inter for us to consider him again, despite previously working with Ten Hag.
DeGeas expensive £350k a week contact has also just expired, which is why we are signing a keeper now and not a year ago.
People need to consider all his and realise that's just how it is sometimes.
We would all love to make decisions with information we gain from hindsight, the club included... But unfortunately we don't have that technology yet!
Onana was quite a huge risk for Inter, as he was quite terrible for Ajax after his suspension. They were the only top club willing to take that risk and have faith in him, which has paid off massively for them.
They're both black?I see where this comparison comes from.
Onana was instrumental in two excellent CL runs with Ajax and Inter, something that Bailly can find really hard to match.
Have a bad feeling about this guy. His handling doesn’t look very clean and while he is good with his feet, he almost looks careless in some videos.
Few errors at the start and the press will be all over him. Hopefully I am wrong.
Few errors at the start and the press will be all over him. Hopefully I am wrong.
Based on?
This is done.
Hopefully he was talking about eccentricity
De Gea just announced he has left so this is clearly done in the next week.
Probably signing that Japanese keeper as well
Probably signing that Japanese keeper as well
Really excited about this. If he’s as good as they say with the ball at his feet then I can’t see how anybody presses us high anymore if he can find Rashford etc in the space behind the press. We could really take the sting out of big away games with a simple keeper change
Ya tell them, that‘s exactly right. Imagine if we had been in for him, the meltdowns and moaning on here.
Just announced de gea leaving surely means we have this done??
Seeing as UTD have announced DDG is leaving or has left, this guy has to be bought so looks like deal may have already been done.?
All true
Most certainly
Agreement surely must be closed with Inter after announcing de Gea is gone.
Nah, feck that! Get back in your sticks lad!!!
The PL is unquestionably faster and more physical than any league he’s played in before. I can see him coming unstuck if he tries this shit too often.
Most of those videos are from his Ajax days, surely he has improved since? Managed well in the CL, I’m not (overly) worried from the little I have seen.
Yeah, most probably. And could also mean that we're getting a backup GK as well, that Suzuki lad or goalie from Turkey.
Dealio doneio.
We now need to get some tweets on Onana deal being done pending a medical
Someone tell me this isn’t just ETH signing more of his mates. Serie A stats from last season look underwhelming. What can you tell me that will give me a bit of confidence?
This looks done then if De Gea’s off
Have you seen him play?
He will transform the way we set up and keep the ball. If you thought last season was shite at times it’s because we didn’t have a GK like him. You’re going to see a very different style of play, which won’t involve our GK having to make world class saves every match because he keeps giving the ball away.
I can see Martinez getting at least two catastrophic groin injuries a season from sliding into the post trying to clear a goalbound effort after Onana has been rounded by the striker 50 yards from goal.
No doubt he's improved.
I'm talking more about his style and his nonchalance. He appears to take it a step further than the other ball-playing keepers we see. Obviously, I'm willing to give him a chance, but can't say I'm all that enthused by the signing. A lot of that is ignorance as I haven't seen that much of him, to be fair.
It'll be interesting. He's a big risk taker. Which traditionally was not something you wanted from a keeper, you just wanted them to claim their crosses, handle set pieces and stop the ball going in the net.
But in current football, it actually is. Most top keepers are now brave. It's not so much outfield and keeper now, it is really one cohesive thing in the buildup and that's where hopefully this risk pays off. If he can show those skills that even Pep praised and do the rest of his job to an acceptable standard it will be quite a big move for us as we move away from a very traditional style keeper.
The only slight worry is he does seem to believe his own press a bit. Hopefully he knows when to stick and when to twist more than he does in some of those older videos in Holland. In theory you'd like to think he's developed.
But in current football, it actually is. Most top keepers are now brave. It's not so much outfield and keeper now, it is really one cohesive thing in the buildup and that's where hopefully this risk pays off. If he can show those skills that even Pep praised and do the rest of his job to an acceptable standard it will be quite a big move for us as we move away from a very traditional style keeper.
The only slight worry is he does seem to believe his own press a bit. Hopefully he knows when to stick and when to twist more than he does in some of those older videos in Holland. In theory you'd like to think he's developed.
But maybe Onana will also manage to get one on one with opposing goalkeeper a few times - he will then compensate with a couple of goals scored
He’s definitely going to cost us a goal attempting this at some point, even if he does get it right most of the time. Shades of Barthez.
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