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I was told he was good on the ball which is why we signed him. Turns out hes not even good at that, nevermind the obligatory blunder he gives us every other game.
Yet another pointless signing that has made us worse. The frustrating thing is we've had some half decent keepers over recent years playing understudy - Henderson, Dubravka and Kovar I can make at the top of my head, all of whom would have been an improvement over Onana. And I haven't even mentioned the array of other decent keepers in the league who've moved to their respective clubs for a fraction of what Inter fleeced us for Onana.
I disagree. The example I'll use is our 0-0 at Anfield last season. Onana didn't make any great saves in that game but he completely took the sting out of the game at the required moments. He time wasted when needed and picked the right passes to keep possession.Excellent question. The answer is no.
All of this in less then 18 months.
And then there's stuff not even included in this video too (another terrible pass vs. Sheffield United to give away a goal, punching a Burnley an attacker in the head to concede a penalty, the first free kick goal vs. Galatasary to name a few)
I like Onana. Seems a good guy. Get him out the fecking club already. Jeez.
On passing front, he is an upgrade on De Gea i.e. he is not bad at it. But he is nowhere as good as he needs to be to make up for silly mistakes he does.We all knew he was signed for his passing rather than his ability as a goalkeeper. But has this vaunted passing ever actually made any difference?
This 100%.I like Onana. Seems a good guy. Get him out the fecking club already. Jeez.
I disagree. The example I'll use is our 0-0 at Anfield last season. Onana didn't make any great saves in that game but he completely took the sting out of the game at the required moments. He time wasted when needed and picked the right passes to keep possession.
If de Gea was in goal that game (or most keepers without the required ball control) he would have constantly been pressed and booted it upfield, only for it to keep coming back which would have kept the Anfield crowd up and the ball would have eventually been sucked into our goal.
Onana has made too many mistakes and his long passing isn't as good as I'd hoped (partly because Hoijlund can't win a header/trap a ball) but anyone who can't see that he is very good in possession and has good short passing is blind.
I believe Onana in certain games prevents us from being under the cosh for 90 minutes because he has good ball control and short passing. He doesn't shit the bed under pressure and just hoof it straight back. If you don't agree, fine.Sorry to break the news to you, but Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has not improved the quality of our possession let alone chances on goal…nor could it ever have.
The perfect keeper does everything you would want with hands and feet, but the sole precondition for a keeper to become a great keeper is high proficiency with his hands.
It’s time to give Bayandir a start in the PL.
My U10 keeper could give him a go.There are better keepers in every tier of English football... certainly down to the national leagues... probably as far down as U10s too.
Sorry to break the news to you, but Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has not improved the quality of our possession let alone chances on goal…nor could it ever have.
The perfect keeper does everything you would want with hands and feet, but the sole precondition for a keeper to become a great keeper is high proficiency with his hands.
It’s time to give Bayandir a start in the PL.
Glad we're not going overboard.There are better keepers in every tier of English football... certainly down to the national leagues... probably as far down as U10s too.
I believe Onana in certain games prevents us from being under the cosh for 90 minutes because he has good ball control and short passing. He doesn't shit the bed under pressure and just hoof it straight back. If you don't agree, fine.
Nah that's clearly not true. We are poor, but sdre poor in large passages because we can't break down opponents, not because we get dominatedSorry to break the news yet again, but we actually are under the cosh for 90 minutes match after match. That's not Onana's fault but it's delusional to believe that we are the ones who are applying pressure in matches, whether the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. It is true that we beat Southampton, but it was Southampton who had control of the match until the 80th minute. And the three goals we did score after the 80th had absolutely nothing to do with Onana.
Nah that's clearly not true. We are poor, but sdre poor in large passages because we can't break down opponents, not because we get dominated
DeGea agreed to a pay cut. There are sticks with which to beat DeGea, but the wages on a deal are not one of them. He was close to being top earner -- but he was Matt Busby Player of the Year four times, was in four PFA Team of the Year sides, and was in the FIFA FIFPro World 11. So it's not crazy giving your best player a big salary - and he was willing to drop it to be in line with the new wage structure to stay.He was. Extending DDG for the wages that he demanded would have been a terrible decision.
Those are shots DeGea would have saved without breaking a sweat. So when Onana is not directly at fault, it's still pretty clear that an above average keeper would have saved an awful lot of the ones he's thrown into his own net.I think it would be this one, Forest at home this season and last season when he punched a bloke in the head (the time they did give it as a penalty) or the Wolves corner concede (though not sure they'd class that as an error)
It's difficult because a) He had all those Champions League gaffs (I think there were 3 direct blunders and about 3 "He should have done better incidents") and b) He has loads of those "He's not directly at fault, but he could have done better moments" (like the 2nd goal yesterday)
Of course he needs to get some rest.On the bench tonight, thank God.
It did because we would have been 3-0 down had it not been for his early saves. I can’t believe the amount of hate he’s getting here although his saves have won the team matches so many times this season. It’s as if him he has to be 100x better than the best player in the team in every game or else the fans think he’s crap. Had Amad not been scoring so many winning goals he would also be getting so much hate!!!!Sorry to break the news yet again, but we actually are under the cosh for 90 minutes match after match. That's not Onana's fault but it's delusional to believe that we are the ones who are applying pressure in matches, whether the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. It is true that we beat Southampton, but it was Southampton who had control of the match until the 80th minute. And the three goals we did score after the 80th had absolutely nothing to do with Onana.
It's not hate, it's just that he's not at all good at keeping the ball from going over the line between the goal posts.It did because we would have been 3-0 down had it not been for his early saves. I can’t believe the amount of hate he’s getting here although his saves have won the team matches so many times this season. It’s as if him he has to be 100x better than the best player in the team in every game or else the fans think he’s crap. Had Amad not been scoring so many winning goals he would also be getting so much hate!!!!
He wasn't spotted. Doesn't mean he's not part of the squadI just saw on Reddit that Onana was not with the traveling squad. Did he oversleep? Is he injured? Sold?
He wasn't spotted. Doesn't mean he's not part of the squad
It did because we would have been 3-0 down had it not been for his early saves. I can’t believe the amount of hate he’s getting here although his saves have won the team matches so many times this season. It’s as if him he has to be 100x better than the best player in the team in every game or else the fans think he’s crap. Had Amad not been scoring so many winning goals he would also be getting so much hate!!!!
Would have been the perfect time to replace him more naturally and maybe light a fire up his ass too.Really thought that last one might be the final straw. Hope he finds some level of consistency to close out the season now, but I can't see it.
