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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
34
Clean sheets
8
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0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
Every time I see him play I have absolutely zero confidence in him and fully expect him to pass it direct to an opponent when trying to play out.
 
Kaos said:
I was told he was good on the ball which is why we signed him. Turns out hes not even good at that, nevermind the obligatory blunder he gives us every other game.

Yet another pointless signing that has made us worse. The frustrating thing is we've had some half decent keepers over recent years playing understudy - Henderson, Dubravka and Kovar I can make at the top of my head, all of whom would have been an improvement over Onana. And I haven't even mentioned the array of other decent keepers in the league who've moved to their respective clubs for a fraction of what Inter fleeced us for Onana.
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Well technically he is good on the ball... if you only take that as when the ball is literally at his feet. Like, his touch is good, he sorts his feet out quickly, he's very comfortable when the ball is under him.

Unfortunately "good on the ball" actually also includes passing... and yeah, thats just average.
 
lex talionis said:
Excellent question. The answer is no.
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I disagree. The example I'll use is our 0-0 at Anfield last season. Onana didn't make any great saves in that game but he completely took the sting out of the game at the required moments. He time wasted when needed and picked the right passes to keep possession.

If de Gea was in goal that game (or most keepers without the required ball control) he would have constantly been pressed and booted it upfield, only for it to keep coming back which would have kept the Anfield crowd up and the ball would have eventually been sucked into our goal.

Onana has made too many mistakes and his long passing isn't as good as I'd hoped (partly because Hoijlund can't win a header/trap a ball) but anyone who can't see that he is very good in possession and has good short passing is blind.
 


All of this in less then 18 months.

And then there's stuff not even included in this video too (another terrible pass vs. Sheffield United to give away a goal, punching a Burnley an attacker in the head to concede a penalty, the first free kick goal vs. Galatasary to name a few)
 
Annihilate Now! said:


All of this in less then 18 months.

And then there's stuff not even included in this video too (another terrible pass vs. Sheffield United to give away a goal, punching a Burnley an attacker in the head to concede a penalty, the first free kick goal vs. Galatasary to name a few)
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Ten Hag is an idiot for burdening us with this. Didn't even take any kind of consideration for mentality of his signings. If he was already doing this at his old clubs how was it going to get better on a stage with even more pressure.
 
Tiber said:
We all knew he was signed for his passing rather than his ability as a goalkeeper. But has this vaunted passing ever actually made any difference?
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On passing front, he is an upgrade on De Gea i.e. he is not bad at it. But he is nowhere as good as he needs to be to make up for silly mistakes he does.
 
Borussia Teeth said:
I disagree. The example I'll use is our 0-0 at Anfield last season. Onana didn't make any great saves in that game but he completely took the sting out of the game at the required moments. He time wasted when needed and picked the right passes to keep possession.

If de Gea was in goal that game (or most keepers without the required ball control) he would have constantly been pressed and booted it upfield, only for it to keep coming back which would have kept the Anfield crowd up and the ball would have eventually been sucked into our goal.

Onana has made too many mistakes and his long passing isn't as good as I'd hoped (partly because Hoijlund can't win a header/trap a ball) but anyone who can't see that he is very good in possession and has good short passing is blind.
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Sorry to break the news to you, but Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has not improved the quality of our possession let alone chances on goal…nor could it ever have.

The perfect keeper does everything you would want with hands and feet, but the sole precondition for a keeper to become a great keeper is high proficiency with his hands.

It’s time to give Bayandir a start in the PL.
 
lex talionis said:
Sorry to break the news to you, but Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has not improved the quality of our possession let alone chances on goal…nor could it ever have.

The perfect keeper does everything you would want with hands and feet, but the sole precondition for a keeper to become a great keeper is high proficiency with his hands.

It’s time to give Bayandir a start in the PL.
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I believe Onana in certain games prevents us from being under the cosh for 90 minutes because he has good ball control and short passing. He doesn't shit the bed under pressure and just hoof it straight back. If you don't agree, fine.
 
There are better keepers in every tier of English football... certainly down to the national leagues... probably as far down as U10s too.
 
lex talionis said:
Sorry to break the news to you, but Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has not improved the quality of our possession let alone chances on goal…nor could it ever have.

The perfect keeper does everything you would want with hands and feet, but the sole precondition for a keeper to become a great keeper is high proficiency with his hands.

It’s time to give Bayandir a start in the PL.
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This 100%
 
Borussia Teeth said:
I believe Onana in certain games prevents us from being under the cosh for 90 minutes because he has good ball control and short passing. He doesn't shit the bed under pressure and just hoof it straight back. If you don't agree, fine.
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Sorry to break the news yet again, but we actually are under the cosh for 90 minutes match after match. That's not Onana's fault but it's delusional to believe that we are the ones who are applying pressure in matches, whether the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. It is true that we beat Southampton, but it was Southampton who had control of the match until the 80th minute. And the three goals we did score after the 80th had absolutely nothing to do with Onana.
 
lex talionis said:
Sorry to break the news yet again, but we actually are under the cosh for 90 minutes match after match. That's not Onana's fault but it's delusional to believe that we are the ones who are applying pressure in matches, whether the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. It is true that we beat Southampton, but it was Southampton who had control of the match until the 80th minute. And the three goals we did score after the 80th had absolutely nothing to do with Onana.
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Nah that's clearly not true. We are poor, but sdre poor in large passages because we can't break down opponents, not because we get dominated
 
hellhunter said:
Nah that's clearly not true. We are poor, but sdre poor in large passages because we can't break down opponents, not because we get dominated
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Yes, we can't break down opponents. We do not dominate in any aspect of play. Defending, crap; midfield control, crap; breaking down opposing defenses, crap; finishing on goal, crap. None of those team deficiencies are in any way the result of a poor or brilliant performance by Onana.

When Onana was brilliant earlier in the season we were poor up and down the pitch. The manager got sacked over it. We brought in a new manager and Onana has been horrifying, as has the rest of the squad.

The point is that no matter how brilliant Onana's first touch on the ball is -- it's his first touch that is brilliant, but his actual passing is no better than average and arguably much worse than most PL keepers -- our performances in the back, middle and final third have been appalling for most of the season except for a solid performance against Everton and of course recently against Liverpool and Arsenal, which apart from keeper mistakes which led to goals (the second and third against Brighton), his brilliant footwork had nothing to do with our poor team and individual performances outside his penalty box.

We recorded only one shot on target -- a pk -- against Brighton. As bad as Onana was against Brighton, Onana had nothing to do with the fact that could not get a single shot on target in open play. But the point is that we should never have expected a keeper to make any difference whatsoever in whether we can, or cannot, get a single shot on goal in open play against any opponent. It would be as daft to believe otherwise as it would be to blame Hojlund for a keeper's mistake when a keeper makes a mistake.
 
It doesn't matter how good you are with your feet (Onana has been pretty abysmal playing out from the back), if you're not a decent shot stopper, then you shouldn't be a goalkeeper.

Get this imposter replaced.
 
Onana is a confidence player, when performing he goes on a run. But when he makes a mistake, his head drops.

He has poor technique for a keeper, he’s good on the ball but not reached the Inter Milan level.

Hate to say this, I’ve been trying to believe in him but his basics aren’t there. He will always cost us a goal and unfortunately he will have to be replaced long term whether we rebuild the outfield first and him later.
 
Stadjer said:
He was. Extending DDG for the wages that he demanded would have been a terrible decision.
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DeGea agreed to a pay cut. There are sticks with which to beat DeGea, but the wages on a deal are not one of them. He was close to being top earner -- but he was Matt Busby Player of the Year four times, was in four PFA Team of the Year sides, and was in the FIFA FIFPro World 11. So it's not crazy giving your best player a big salary - and he was willing to drop it to be in line with the new wage structure to stay.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...rees-pay-cut-land-new-manchester-united-deal/
 
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Annihilate Now! said:
I think it would be this one, Forest at home this season and last season when he punched a bloke in the head (the time they did give it as a penalty) or the Wolves corner concede (though not sure they'd class that as an error)

It's difficult because a) He had all those Champions League gaffs (I think there were 3 direct blunders and about 3 "He should have done better incidents") and b) He has loads of those "He's not directly at fault, but he could have done better moments" (like the 2nd goal yesterday)
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Those are shots DeGea would have saved without breaking a sweat. So when Onana is not directly at fault, it's still pretty clear that an above average keeper would have saved an awful lot of the ones he's thrown into his own net.
 
lex talionis said:
Sorry to break the news yet again, but we actually are under the cosh for 90 minutes match after match. That's not Onana's fault but it's delusional to believe that we are the ones who are applying pressure in matches, whether the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. It is true that we beat Southampton, but it was Southampton who had control of the match until the 80th minute. And the three goals we did score after the 80th had absolutely nothing to do with Onana.
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It did because we would have been 3-0 down had it not been for his early saves. I can’t believe the amount of hate he’s getting here although his saves have won the team matches so many times this season. It’s as if him he has to be 100x better than the best player in the team in every game or else the fans think he’s crap. Had Amad not been scoring so many winning goals he would also be getting so much hate!!!!
 
Jwills said:
It did because we would have been 3-0 down had it not been for his early saves. I can’t believe the amount of hate he’s getting here although his saves have won the team matches so many times this season. It’s as if him he has to be 100x better than the best player in the team in every game or else the fans think he’s crap. Had Amad not been scoring so many winning goals he would also be getting so much hate!!!!
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It's not hate, it's just that he's not at all good at keeping the ball from going over the line between the goal posts.
 
I understand the Onana thinking but I've seen some so called top PL keepers equally drop some clangers. Just watched the Chelsea keeper throw one in, but he's not alone...
 
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Onana must be established as the new backup keeper from the Fulham game onwards. He can always regain the first-choice keeper status before the season is up, but you can't ignore the frequency of errors leading to goals by him. De Gea had a really rough time over the last few years for exactly the same, yet they were nowhere near as severe as Onana's mishaps.

Bench him. Look to move him on in the summer.
 
Jwills said:
It did because we would have been 3-0 down had it not been for his early saves. I can’t believe the amount of hate he’s getting here although his saves have won the team matches so many times this season. It’s as if him he has to be 100x better than the best player in the team in every game or else the fans think he’s crap. Had Amad not been scoring so many winning goals he would also be getting so much hate!!!!
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There’s a separate debate to be had over whether Onana is or is not highly skilled as a shot stopper. It’s abundantly clear that he’s struggling right now, but it’s also abundantly clear that his shot stopping was excellent earlier this season. It’s also not just abundantly clear but undeniable that Onana was catastrophic as a shot stopper last season. We all watched dump United out of the CL.

But that’s a different issue than what we’re discussing here. What we’re discussing here is whether Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet makes any difference whatsoever in the quality of our buildup play, control of midfield and chance creation.

It is undeniable that Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has not translated into brilliance in our buildup play, control of midfield or chance creation. It’s easy enough, and perfectly correct, to blame the outfield players for their poor play, but the point is that Onana’s brilliance with the ball at his feet has had no impact on our ability to dominate play outside of his penalty box.
 
I hate the inconsistency. We are never sure whether Onana or Onono is on the field.
 
It's a concentration thing with him and switches off at times. He has the right mentality as the pressure that's on the utd keeper far exceeds any other club. He believes in himself and that goes a long way.....
 
Really thought that last one might be the final straw. Hope he finds some level of consistency to close out the season now, but I can't see it.
 
V.O. said:
Really thought that last one might be the final straw. Hope he finds some level of consistency to close out the season now, but I can't see it.
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Would have been the perfect time to replace him more naturally and maybe light a fire up his ass too.
 
Should not be starting. Another eth signing for big money that we will never be able to get rid of.
 
I have seen enough. Onana mistakes are too costly and cannot be overlooked any longer. I hope we look for a replacement in the summer.
 
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