How he survived single handedly (actually both hands were shit) dumping us out of CL group stage last season I will never understand. If Amorim starts him again I'll lose faith in him.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
- 1
a) Playing out from the back is easier if you have a keeper who is capable of it, the rest of the team still needs to be able to play their role.
b) He should've had a few assists in his time here, due to some very good passes.
Time to move on - I don't think you can have a 'keeper that every time he takes the field you half expect him to give a cheap goal away, that can't be easy for the players in front of him either and must make them hesitant in their decision-making as well and impact their performances.
Not sure how much United would get for him if they sold him in the summer if this continues but it would be worth taking a punt on another GK if they can get Onana out and another in and not spend any money that probably has and should be earmarked for other positions. Maybe somebody like Hermansen - not sure if he is good enough either but at least you are swapping a player who clearly isn't for one who might be without any financial impact.
Between him, Antony and Martinez and the £175m or so spent on these as well it does make you somewhat question whether there should really be greater resistance to new manager's coming in and signing 'their' player so-to-speak. Managers come and go and the club need to prioritize talent and good value deals over familiarity surely?
Hindsight maybe but when you have Vicario moving to Spurs in the same window for 2.5x less money and he wasn't exactly under the radar given he'd come off a great season in Serie A that year as well, it seems like paying the premium for the player a manager has worked with before often backfires, typically if they are stepping up a level (Onana to be fair wasn't given he went to Inter between Ajax and United, but I think there were always question marks about his error rate).
Not sure how much United would get for him if they sold him in the summer if this continues but it would be worth taking a punt on another GK if they can get Onana out and another in and not spend any money that probably has and should be earmarked for other positions. Maybe somebody like Hermansen - not sure if he is good enough either but at least you are swapping a player who clearly isn't for one who might be without any financial impact.
Between him, Antony and Martinez and the £175m or so spent on these as well it does make you somewhat question whether there should really be greater resistance to new manager's coming in and signing 'their' player so-to-speak. Managers come and go and the club need to prioritize talent and good value deals over familiarity surely?
Hindsight maybe but when you have Vicario moving to Spurs in the same window for 2.5x less money and he wasn't exactly under the radar given he'd come off a great season in Serie A that year as well, it seems like paying the premium for the player a manager has worked with before often backfires, typically if they are stepping up a level (Onana to be fair wasn't given he went to Inter between Ajax and United, but I think there were always question marks about his error rate).
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What is our option ?
The backup goalkeeper is worse ..
Why did we buy a worse keepr for 5M..
Surely Heaton there would be better ..
The goal we conceded was due to his poor punching
I don't think he is worse, actually don't think that would be possible. Either way Onana needs to be dropped and sent packing in May.
Onana has been suspect from Day 1. Another terrible signing of the ETH/Glazer/INEOS hierarchy. We need to drop him and what the Turkish (yes, I can't even spell his name) in goal. He cannot possibly be worse.
He needs to be sent packing for sure ..
If you want to go back and watch all of our matches for the past 3-4 seasons and look at whether or not we play out from the back better then maybe you'll get a better answer.
Other than that, yes it has made a difference. The amount of difference a goalkeeper can make in that regard is going to be limited though.
That third goal yesterday. Never seen anything like it! Taibi went down as an infamous legend for much much less. I genuinely don’t want to see him play for the club again. The one thing that stopped us becoming midtable after Fergie left was having a keeper who saved us countless times. All keepers make mistakes but this guy’s been here 18 months and is gifting goals away. He’s crap.
Agreed. I know he has a super save in him. He seems a good guy. But basics. Basics. Basics. Fecking elementary b.a.s.i.c.s.
He has to come for that cross that leads to their second. Simple catch. The third was an awful bit of handling. Looked edgy from thr start.
Funny you mention that.
Earlier in the game, Maguire made a shite panic clearance from a ball that should be the keeper's ball all day long.
It reminded me of his terrible dynamic with De Gea and how it was the downfall for both of them.
What a shame.
Up until December time he was one of our better performers this season.
Up until December time he was one of our better performers this season.
The ball lands practically on the post. It had to be near him at some point.
Just like the Forest goal.
The goal we conceded was due to his poor punching
Partly his fault. We still looked decidedly more assured. Our defence looks extremely disjointed with Onana.
I've held my tongue on Onana since he was brought in. I like the guy. I think he has a good mentality, he comes across well in interviews and I like his big brother style relationship with Amad.
That being said he needs to be sold as soon as possible really. We have other more pressing issues with this squad, but as soon as they are rectified get him out.
That being said he needs to be sold as soon as possible really. We have other more pressing issues with this squad, but as soon as they are rectified get him out.
Even the very best GK make 1-2 costly mistakes a season - but it's getting to the point where it's every other week with Onana now. It was similar with De Gea towards the end, some brilliant saves but than an absolute calamity where it costs us.
You need your GK to be consistent, they can't be MOM one week and then costing the team the other. That was really basic yesterday, absolutely shocking from him.
I think we should look to replace him in the summer if possible. He's improved from last year, but still the mistakes are there and it's going to keep costing us.
You need your GK to be consistent, they can't be MOM one week and then costing the team the other. That was really basic yesterday, absolutely shocking from him.
I think we should look to replace him in the summer if possible. He's improved from last year, but still the mistakes are there and it's going to keep costing us.
At the time, I thought this was a brilliant signing but damn its turned out to be so underwhelming.
There are some elements to his game that are really really poor and I just do not see him improving that much tbh.
There are some elements to his game that are really really poor and I just do not see him improving that much tbh.
I don't think some people realize the impact it has on the team when he makes those big mistakes.
One of my favourite lesser known pundits, Manchester lad Tony O'Neill, said the following after the 3-1 loss to Brighton:
"What Onana did today saps the energy of the crowd and the team and thats a worrying thing"
As I said he cost us that game yesterday. It's just a pattern repeating itself.
He shouldn't be given another start until the coaching staff have sorted the issue and if they can't he needs to leave.
One of my favourite lesser known pundits, Manchester lad Tony O'Neill, said the following after the 3-1 loss to Brighton:
"What Onana did today saps the energy of the crowd and the team and thats a worrying thing"
As I said he cost us that game yesterday. It's just a pattern repeating itself.
He shouldn't be given another start until the coaching staff have sorted the issue and if they can't he needs to leave.
Said last year he was a awful buy not needed along with Mount. Those 2 £100 million ffs. Henderson sold he should have been kept until another could come in the right one. Hindsight is great though, but Onana is hopeless and I've never rated him
I think his build has to do something with his agility . He just seems too clumsy at times and maybe this is the reason.
Either way don't think Onana is sustainable long term
Either way don't think Onana is sustainable long term
Rather play Heaton than him
Any chance of offers for this bumbling ETH crony?
Another disaster.
Another disaster.
Eli Harrison is the beat keeper we have. Just came back from a successful loan
Contracted for another 3 years. He ain’t going anywhere as no club will come in for him for at least 2 years. Another gem of a signing. Looks way too heavy to be an athletic keeper in the PL.
Sometimes he seems heavy on his feet
Whether we play back 3 or 5 or 4, it dosnt matter if we have a weak goal keeper like Onana who cant catch the ball or make himself big infront of the goal, it proved in Brighton's 2nd and 3rd goals and many times in last year..
Once in a while every keeper has blunders in them but this guy is consistently making these silly mistakes which is causing problems for us.
Once in a while every keeper has blunders in them but this guy is consistently making these silly mistakes which is causing problems for us.
Lost patience now. He's largely "good" and is good with his feet. He deserved a season and some of the criticism was WAY overblown....which always makes me more likely to defend a player...BUT...we can't keep conceding key goals at key moments from crazy unforced errors...and 18-months in, it seems these aren't nervy / settling in errors, they're ingrained in his game.
wonder would there be a market for him in Summer. I'd say his profile is still good in Italy but you probably wouldn't get more than 20m or so for him
He's almost completely the opposite of what I hoped he'd be when he signed.
If you look at our matches in the last 3-4 years you can easily see, we are absolute dogshit and playing out from the back is the least of our problems. The only difference Onana has made is the amount of errors he has committed in a short period of time.
Stíll Carroll played for us for a good while, not sure that's a good call. Howard cost us a CL Final.
Indeed. On paper he probably still is a top performer on the season. In practice, no amount of paper can account enough for calamities like yesterday. On paper a cup final counts as just one game, an unforced error counts as just one goal conceded. He sure does have a talent for dropping clangers at the worst of times.
That wouldn't be a difference.
This is why I was reluctant to praise him too much after the saves he made earlier on this season. Most of them were centre of the goal. If the shot is too far either side of him then he doesn't save them. He often stands still and watches shots go in that are either left of centre or right of centre.
I was told he was good on the ball which is why we signed him. Turns out hes not even good at that, nevermind the obligatory blunder he gives us every other game.
Yet another pointless signing that has made us worse. The frustrating thing is we've had some half decent keepers over recent years playing understudy - Henderson, Dubravka and Kovar I can make at the top of my head, all of whom would have been an improvement over Onana. And I haven't even mentioned the array of other decent keepers in the league who've moved to their respective clubs for a fraction of what Inter fleeced us for Onana.
Yet another pointless signing that has made us worse. The frustrating thing is we've had some half decent keepers over recent years playing understudy - Henderson, Dubravka and Kovar I can make at the top of my head, all of whom would have been an improvement over Onana. And I haven't even mentioned the array of other decent keepers in the league who've moved to their respective clubs for a fraction of what Inter fleeced us for Onana.
Yeah we would have been much better off with Kovar no doubt. He is a better keeper and we would have saved a lot of money.
Every time I see him play I have absolutely zero confidence in him and fully expect him to pass it direct to an opponent when trying to play out.