I think he's easily calable of it TBH. The ridiculous part is the "40 games a season" bit...
Anderson on his way out?
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I think he's easily calable of it TBH. The ridiculous part is the "40 games a season" bit...
He's not going to come good for United. Cut our losses, get rid of the fat cnut
Time to get rid.
How was it a bell-end comment? Do you honestly think that a top club would buy Anderson? Most top clubs wouldn't even be interested in him if he was on a free due to his injury problems.
Look at Hargreaves, he was a top player. But how many top clubs were genuinely interested in him last summer when he was on a free?
The 25 player squad cap now in place makes signing an injury ravaged individual too big a gamble for even the very richest clubs.
I can handle the backlash. I'm not deluded enough to believe this fat waste of space will come good for us.
The Anderson cycle
Turn up for pre-season fat as feck
Start the season ok, a couple of good games here and there
Everyone says 'this could be it, he's ready to kick-start his United career'
Get's injured, out for 4 months
Comes back, out of shape, plays a couple of games and blows out of his arse after 60 mins, substituted
Get's injured again, season over
Waste of fecking time
The Anderson cycle
Turn up for pre-season fat as feck
Start the season ok, a couple of good games here and there
Everyone says 'this could be it, he's ready to kick-start his United career'
Get's injured, out for 4 months
Comes back, out of shape, plays a couple of games and blows out of his arse after 60 mins, substituted
Get's injured again, season over
Waste of fecking time
The Anderson situation is nothing like Owen in any way.
This is a player who is still young and has shown glimpses of real potential. I can understand that some are fed up. But it's so frustrating when we all know there is a good player in there.
It was frustrating 3 years ago mate. Now it's just fecking ridiculous.
Things that have happened exactly once* aren't traditionally considered 'cycles'. As per usual, Anderson haters are bizarre revisionists.
*And that's very generous, as your description of his last season is more than a little hyperbolic.
Yup.
Fixed.
Yes, because he's a real fan favourite. This thread is testament to that.
Thank you
Just never happend for him. Showed potential but never fulfilled it. SHould be a starter week in week out by now but he isn't.
I really like Anderson especially when he goes on those runs, but I wouldn't be sad to see him go, just not consistent enough
Really? I think people are over exaggerating his lack of form a little bit, sure he's been frustrating at times, but he hasn't played badly.
SAF has certainly been as patient with Anderson as any player I can think of.
If he does call time, you couldn't really blame him. He still has bags of talents and has shown signs of becoming a top midfielder, but it seems unlikely he'll ever stay fit enough to play most of a season.
If he does call time, you couldn't really blame him. He still has bags of talents and has shown signs of becoming a top midfielder, but it seems unlikely he'll ever stay fit enough to play most of a season.
The thing is, whether he becomes a star is one matter and looking increasingly unlikely but as a squad player he's pretty solid. I've said before if we have to sell to buy then he should be the one to go but if we can bring in someone and keep him around, or preferably said him on loan this season an dback next after scholes's and giggs retire then that would be good .
armchair fan speaks for several clubs around Europe and the World.Not even going to bother with the comparison to Owen Hargreaves.
If he hadnt been injured last season before the real testing matches and he carried on his good form, he'd have had a good season with few questioning him. But because he got injured we'll never know how he would have done.
The one thing we do know is he isnt dependable. But that doesnt mean that Sir Alex doesnt still have a lot of faith in him
The one thing we do know is he isnt dependable. But that doesnt mean that Sir Alex doesnt still have a lot of faith in him
Pedro Pinto of CNN on the Moutinho/Anderson-Witsel swap
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transfer-talk-show/120707/pinto-moutinho-hulk-and-witsel-176089?
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/transfer-talk-show/120707/pinto-moutinho-hulk-and-witsel-176089?
In terms of their tranfer situation, he has said nothing we already know.
Fecking Glazers. Its evident that they want to cut corners on the food budget.
Pinto has a lot of cred in my book, especially in terms of inside info on Portuguese players.
How's that midfield looking now Pexbo?
I would give him 1 more year, but frankly, after his injuries and last year, he's unlikely to make a breakthrough.
Let's say we sell Anderson, our midfieldlineup next season (January 2013)
Ryan Giggs - 39 - too old
Paul Scholes - 38 - too old
Michael Carrick - 31 - world class
Darren Fletcher - 29 - mightn't ever play again
Tom Cleverely - 23 - completely unproven.
Yeah, let's sell him.
Ryan Giggs - 39 - too old
Paul Scholes - 38 - too old
Michael Carrick - 31 - world class
Darren Fletcher - 29 - mightn't ever play again
Tom Cleverely - 23 - completely unproven.
Yeah, let's sell him.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that he's sold and not replaced. For my part of send him on loan and bein someone in. But if we need to sell one of these guys then ando is the best option.
There's space opening up with Parks departure. I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in a winger and definitely a left back though. 3 wingers isn't enough, if one is injured you don't have the important tactical option of a change on the wing.
The truth is, personally I would love to see someone at the expense of Giggs who I have been extremely critical of all season, but as I said, Giggs has his contract so Ferguson obviously has plans.
What you don't seem to realise is that I've been trying to be realistic in my arguments about what we already have available and what Ferguson is likely to do based on what he has done in the past. In an ideal world we would probably only keep Carrick and Cleverley and buy 3 or 4 top quality midfielders aged 24-27 while deeming Anderson too much of a gamble, Fletcher a crock and Giggs and Scholes too old.
The point I have been making is that we are not City. We have capable players, players we can call on for their experience and players we have invested time and money in and we want to see some of the fruits of that work. Our midfield options aren't nearly as bad as people make out.
Now Park has left, I can see us getting a squad midfielder with some potential in but definitely not the £30m world class starting midfielder you want. That's not down to the Glazers money either, it's because if everyone is fit we have a potentially great midfield. That's something Fergie will pride himself on developing and that's something I support him in.
We don't need another winger. We have 3 class wingers already and in kagawa and welbeck players who can play wide well if needed not to mention more than enough options to to a 433. We need another centre mid, preferably for me one who can come in for carrick or alongside him. None of our other midfielders bar fletcher can do this and he looks the most unlikeliest to play.
I'd rather another Winger and Kagawa drops deeper into a midfield 3 personally. Welbeck is a complete waste on the wing.
I think it would be unneccessary. Kagawa can play in am the majority of the time, it's only when we were to have a big injury problem that he would need to do that. Welbeck isn't as good outwide as up top sure, but he can do a job there and again could fit in well in a 3, once again though that's only in times where we would have injury problems. Getting a fourth winger in isn't required when we have players who can perform well as backup not to mention can easily change the system. With kagawa signing its likely that welbeck or him will play wide at times.
A second option for carrick though is far more pressing as no one bar the most unreliable player we have, fletcher, can replace him effectively. You can't change the system to cover for that and you can't change the fact that virtually all our midfielders in some way need the protection a carrick gives them.
It's not only when you have a "big injury problem" though. A big injury problem is 8 defenders out and using Fletcher and Carrick as CBs.
Having 3 wingers for two positions isn't enough. Pretty much every week last season either Valencia, Young or Nani were injured. One injury and you would then have to reconsider your whole game plan to get a player who should be playing centrally to either start on the wing or on the bench so he can come on as a winger.
FWIW Kagawa isn't a "United" winger. He's wasted tracking back and helping his fullback and when he played wide for Dortmund and Japan its on the left of a 3 in a 4-3-3 and in that system it's the spare player in the middle 3 who offers himself as support to the fullback while Kagawa offers himself centrally.
That's never what I said though. I never said it has to be a Modric or Martinez, though in muppet land I'd obviously love them here. My point was how average our midfield is and how unreliable the players are in it. Park is now gone, so at least you'll agree that the space is there so sort it out anyway I guess, that's a start.
Madness to sign a winger instead though, given what we have in contrast to midfield.