Anderson | 2013/14 Performances (on loan at Fiorentina)

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May end up releasing him as I honestly can't see any team forking out cash for him. He has been a massive let-down.
 
So I’m guessing we may be stuck with him next season if we can’t off load him somewhere real cheap. Fiorentina clearly are not going to take up the permanent option they had if they are not even playing him. Shame he couldn’t do well over there, because I’ve always liked the guy.
 
Time to let him go, doesnt matter what manager united will get. The new permanent manager will freshen up the midfield with quality players. Anderson isnt good enough to just be a squad player, has to go.
 
FacerTheRed said:
Time to let him go, doesnt matter what manager united will get. The new permanent manager will freshen up the midfield with quality players. Anderson isnt good enough to just be a squad player, has to go.
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You're right. Time to get rid of the chaff and he's top of the list. Had his chance and more than enough time to improve but never shown it. Should have been sold last summer if not before.
 
bobbyf said:
You're right. Time to get rid of the chaff and he's top of the list. Had his chance and more than enough time to improve but never shown it. Should have been sold last summer if not before.
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Should of been sold two years ago. I feel for him as injury has dampened his game time down the years but no excuse though because he just doesnt offer nothing but energy within the midfield when he is fit. When united first got him he was known to be the next ronaldinho... no where near! I love him as person and can just lighten the dressing room instantly, but as a footballer its just really poor and a very bad signing from SAF there. Time to look into the future and freshen up the squad.
 
How many years left on his contact? He's probably on about 60k and is barely worth 20k.
 
Realistically, what is he worth contracts aside? 1-1.5m? Doesn't really offer anything.
 
Sadly the guy isn't even Premier League level anymore. If we can't get rid of hi in the summer then he will have to take a loan in the Championship.
 
I have been on his case for many years but many bashed me for this.. Can´t say this surprised me one bit.. After he came back from the Brazilian squad that went to the Beijing Olympics the writing was on the wall!

If his wikipedia stats are true he has made 14.8 apps a season in his career, that´s shocking..
 
arthurka said:
I have been on his case for many years but many bashed me for this.. Can´t say this surprised me one bit.. After he came back from the Brazilian squad that went to the Beijing Olympics the writing was on the wall!

If his wikipedia stats are true he has made 14.8 apps a season in his career, that´s shocking..
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Read somewhere recently that this will be the first season in the whole of Ryan Giggs career, where he has made less than 40 appearances. Bearing in mind the dodgy hammies that plagued his early years as a pro it really highlights how unfit Anderson has been in his time at United.
 
Injuries didn't help him, but ultimately his lack of work ethic and his inability to control his eating habits are the reason for his career or lack of. I think it's a disgrace to be honest. For someone to have such ability and then waste it because of a lack of effort.
 
Name Changed said:
Injuries didn't help him, but ultimately his lack of work ethic and his inability to control his eating habits are the reason for his career or lack of. I think it's a disgrace to be honest. For someone to have such ability and then waste it because of a lack of effort.
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I would also argue that having a poor work ethic and diet made him more likely to get injured and prolonged his recovery each time.

I had my first ever serious football injury a year ago and never really appreciated how hard you have to work in physiotherapy to get fit again. If you don't put the effort in, it can add weeks or months to the time you're out of the game.
 
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I would also argue that having a poor work ethic and diet made him more likely to get injured and prolonged his recovery each time.

I had my first ever serious football injury a year ago and never really appreciated how hard you have to work in physiotherapy to get fit again. If you don't put the effort in, it can add weeks or months to the time you're out of the game.
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Agreed. Which makes it even worse. I just can't imagine having all that ability and throwing it away.
 
I feel sorry for him. He hasn't really managed to reach, and maintain, a decent level. There would be a side in Brazil who would take him though I would imagine?
 
ZDwyr said:
I feel sorry for him. He hasn't really managed to reach, and maintain, a decent level. There would be a side in Brazil who would take him though I would imagine?
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I'm not sure if there really is a need to feel sorry for him, I mean he spent a big chunk of his career at one of the biggest clubs in the world and had a shot of making it at the highest level.
 
Name Changed said:
Injuries didn't help him, but ultimately his lack of work ethic and his inability to control his eating habits are the reason for his career or lack of. I think it's a disgrace to be honest. For someone to have such ability and then waste it because of a lack of effort.
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To be fair, he had the amount of potential he did due to his own hard work. It's not like he was just born with an amazing amount of talent.
 
Hope he saved that money well, because he'll soon be playing in league 2 for peanuts.
 
Cedric said:
I'm not sure if there really is a need to feel sorry for him, I mean he spent a big chunk of his career at one of the biggest clubs in the world and had a shot of making it at the highest level.
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Yeah I realise that, but he always seemed like a genuinely nice guy. For me it would have been nice to see him reach his potential for at least a year or two.
 
Cedric said:
I'm not sure if there really is a need to feel sorry for him, I mean he spent a big chunk of his career at one of the biggest clubs in the world and had a shot of making it at the highest level.
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Only just gone 26 as well. He really is wasting his talent.
 
He will go back to Brazil. A player like Anderson who struggles with his weight and fitness is only going to get worse and worse. It will deteriorate as it does with so many Brazilian players.

Unbelievable to think how talented he was back in Brazil and then when he joined FC Porto. He won the European Golden boy and look destined for the very top. I always struggled to understand why we bought him 3months after he had just recovered from a broken leg without showing any true recovery so I suppose you could always say it was a risk.

Signing one of the best young AM's and trying to convert him into another DM was another problem. He was never going to quite adapt to that role, his passing was too inconsistent and he could go missing at times.
 
Going back to Portugal is another option. And maybe a mid table or lower side in the premier league or serie A would still like him.

I mean Fiorentina may not be United, but in reality they have pretty good central midfielders at least as good as ours so it was always unlikely he was going to make himself a first choice.
 
You're being ridiculous if you think he can't play for a team like Fulham, Cardiff, Sunderland, etc. He is not championship level let alone league 2. He's a good player with poor fitness and he isn't the first.
 
SambaBoy said:
He will go back to Brazil. A player like Anderson who struggles with his weight and fitness is only going to get worse and worse. It will deteriorate as it does with so many Brazilian players.

Unbelievable to think how talented he was back in Brazil and then when he joined FC Porto. He won the European Golden boy and look destined for the very top. I always struggled to understand why we bought him 3months after he had just recovered from a broken leg without showing any true recovery so I suppose you could always say it was a risk.

Signing one of the best young AM's and trying to convert him into another DM was another problem. He was never going to quite adapt to that role, his passing was too inconsistent and he could go missing at times.
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I don't think Anderson was ever a defensive midfielder. He was always the furthest forward central player apart from the strikers whenever he played for us. He was never a #10 either, he lacks the subtlety for that role, his biggest advantages were his pace and power to make surging runs through midfield, shield the ball and when on form he showed some very good passing skills and ability to switch play to the flanks swiftly.

His failure has little to do with bad tactics or trying to fit him into an impossible role.
 
SambaBoy said:
He will go back to Brazil. A player like Anderson who struggles with his weight and fitness is only going to get worse and worse. It will deteriorate as it does with so many Brazilian players.

Unbelievable to think how talented he was back in Brazil and then when he joined FC Porto. He won the European Golden boy and look destined for the very top. I always struggled to understand why we bought him 3months after he had just recovered from a broken leg without showing any true recovery so I suppose you could always say it was a risk.

Signing one of the best young AM's and trying to convert him into another DM was another problem. He was never going to quite adapt to that role, his passing was too inconsistent and he could go missing at times.
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I always find it hard to believe that he was that highly rated, even though I know he was. I can't really understand how he looked like such a promising attacking midfielder when with us his passing and shooting were consistently really poor and his dribbling wasn't special. The only thing I see in him is that he has a good burst of pace and likes to run through the midfield and at defenders sometimes.
 
Kag said:
Anderson failed for a number of reasons, but in his defence, I'd attribute his injuries to his lack of growth. He had many good games, he did and does have a lot of talent, but that knee injury against Wolves was a horror, and really set him back. Beyond that, it's been niggle after niggle. I don't doubt his much - argued indiscipline, however I simply can't believe that Sir Alex and our team of medical professionals would allow that kind of thing to go on for so long. Rooney, for example, has always irritated Sir Alex because of his well - known indiscipline, that's no secret.

I don't think rotation did him any favours. He'd regularly find himself dropped for a 36 year old Scholes after a good outing, which was never of benefit. And then there's his actual fitness. I could be wrong, but I'm certain I read that he had the lowest Co2/O2 levels at the club upon arrival, which would explain his poor lack of stamina.

Then there's the probable fact that he just didn't take it all that seriously, which he himself has admitted. I like the guy, and I know there's still a good player in there, but it's a sorry story when you consider he promised so much.
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Perhaps but I'd imagine he's not the hardest worker there is either. Happy-go-lucky which helps when you're injured a lot but he didn't seem very determined or he wouldn't have been overweight so much.
 
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