I'd susbtitute Kagawa for Cleverley there. I just don't think Cleverley looks promising enough going forwards these days. Even swapping Ando with Cleverley there would probably work better. Cleverley has proven himself quite decent at defending - quick feet and isn't fooled too easily; Hazard struggled a lot getting past him.
Anderson | 2013/14 Performances (on loan at Fiorentina)
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I'd susbtitute Kagawa for Cleverley there. I just don't think Cleverley looks promising enough going forwards these days. Even swapping Ando with Cleverley there would probably work better. Cleverley has proven himself quite decent at defending - quick feet and isn't fooled too easily; Hazard struggled a lot getting past him.
Hasn't Moyes first 3 matches, Moyes has gone with a 2 man midfield?
Unless Rooney or Van Persie are injured I cannot see Moyes playing a 3 man midfield unless he is prepared drop one of them.
I don't know, but i guess the winger are abit defensive, tucking in to help the mid
What I meant by 2 man midfield is our team circa 99 , where 2 winger bombing forward with keane and scholes in the middle anchoring play.
Probably our last 3 games is 2 man mid, but the approach still look defensive to me
A 1-1 draw against Valencia, a professional 1-0 against Arsenal and a solid 2-0 win against Sunderland. They were, indeed, better than most of the stinkers we played during that autumn when Carrick and Anderson did not feature but the only really "great" game was the 7-1 against Blackburn and later the 5-0 against Birmingham.
???? Why are people still going on about Anderson? He hasnt done shit for more than 4 years except eating. Never got why we gave him a new contract after he stringed together 10 games in a row, got the new contract and couldnt be bothered since...
In the big matches it will most definitely be a Carrick-Fellaini combo, however i think Ando might now be slightly ahead of Clev as a backup.
based on what exactly?
Not sure I follow. Cleverley has started most matches this season thus far and Ando has had the odd 10 minute cameo - not enough even for the fans to rate him this way or that way. I rate Ando higher, but not based on this season or what he did last season - mine is a positivist viewpoint based solely on talent and an uncanny belief that he will stay injury free.
I want to keep him, purely for keeping him around as a dressing room mascot.
It's still a 2 man midfield with wingers. Even Circa 99 the wide men of Giggs and Beckham were expected to help out in defence and Beckham would often tuck in so United were not outnumbered when playing against a '3'.
i just think Fellaini and Carrick are quite similar in terms of their position i.e DM, and that Ando is more attacking so might be a better fit than Clev
As much as I like Cleverley he shouldn't be in the 'hole' at all. Swapping him and Anderson would make more sense as Anderson is more penetrative.
Anyhow the overall point I was making is that I think it could make a decent CM trio with Fellaini sat just behind the other two, in a Busquets type position (N.B. I'm not comparing Fellaini and Busquets before people jump on me).
Why do you think he is in the 'hole' here? Simply because he is furthest forward of the midfield 3? Quite the opposite infact his job for me in this would be to stand his ground and let things tick over, I would expect Carrick to stay slightly further back with Fellaini position alongside, however Fel would then have the option to become box to box if the game opened up... It's more a formation to play the bigger teams... not your Crystal Palace's
Anderson's reputation always seems to grow when he isn't playing. People come up with all sorts of pretty formations and how Anderson would fit perfectly in them. And then he starts playing....
Until he performs at a high level for significant number of games in a row, I for one, remain unconvinced.
Until he performs at a high level for significant number of games in a row, I for one, remain unconvinced.
It wasn't a line-up for Crystal Palace or I would have put it in the matchday thread. And Carrick wasn't in the line up I posted so I'm not even sure what you're on about there. That position that you put Cleverley in, between the midfield and the centre forward is the hole, in a match he would obviously occupy that space in front of him and that is usually where the most attacking of the midfield trio plays, Cleverley isn't the most attacking of that three imo.
Anyway it's arguing semantics.
I'd like to see that midfield three at some point in a game where Carrick is rested as I stated in my original post. I didn't comment on the strength of the opposition.
Completely agree.
I'm amazed he's still here to be honest. I assumed that signing a proper midfielder would be the end of him here.
You would think that, but we would be even more dangerously light in the CM department of we let Ando go. If we brought in Herrera too, well then it would have been a different story IMO.
About 250 pounds lighter I'd wager.
I doubt anyone wants him.
It amazes me that certain people on here continue to show him such blind (deluded) faith after all these years.
Probably because they spent so long telling us all he was going to be world class and laughing at anyone who said he wasn't good enough, that they just can't stop now.
TruDat.
Still can't believe this wage thief is still with us.
But he's good for dressing room bantz. Ace
But he's good for dressing room bantz. Ace
Anderson is a good player, not as bad as you guys make out... how he fits into Moyes plan is anyone's guess.
This is what happens when you sign a player after they break their leg. They will continue to have injury problems all the time. See Hargreaves. Yes, there are exceptions (Valencia) but typically a devastating injury like Anderson's will plague a player for a long time.
Anyway that's my take on this. Many people think he is just fat and lazy but perhaps the fitness issues all stem from niggling injuries that won't go away.
Anyway that's my take on this. Many people think he is just fat and lazy but perhaps the fitness issues all stem from niggling injuries that won't go away.
As I said in my post it was an option for when we rest Carrick.
Still. I'd expect that level of midfield at Ajax, not United
The games where we rest Carrick will probably be the smaller games/cups so I don't see anything wrong with it. Beats the Ando-Giggs CM pairing that played at Stamford Bridge in the League Cup last season.
I'd still pick Giggs instead of Anderson, especially in that 3 man midfield
Non plussed to be honest decent 4 choice I guess.
stay yes
For the few games he does play well in a season, he is easily a level above Cleverley.
If he stays fit, he will be above Cleverley in the pecking order (i doubt he will be fit for long though)
If he stays fit, he will be above Cleverley in the pecking order (i doubt he will be fit for long though)
If fit I would start him ahead of Cleverly. He offers more going forward IMO.
Not to be too harsh, but, Anderson's was one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a United player in a long while. Tripping over the ball in space on the break basically summed it up perfectly for him today.
He should take a look at a recording of his performance today before knocking on the manager's door and asking why he isn't playing.
We seemed to play better when he went off, not that he had a particularly bad performance.
He was terrible, too slow, too clumsy ...
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