Anderson | 2013/14 Performances (on loan at Fiorentina)

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From 19th July this year:

He (Anderson) has all the ingredients to be a star at LB. I would have him ahead of Baines and Evra, I think he can be that great
 
I like Ando, and think going forward he gives us something only Giggs provides at the moment from that part of the park (and no, not unnecessarily risky passes that never come off). But.

He should never, ever be paired with Cleverley again. Good lord it was like watching an U10 match from the sideline, yelling at the kids to stop chasing the ball and pay attention to where they are on the pitch.

It should be so simple - pay attention to where your midfield partner is. If he's out pressing the ball, than for f*cks sake don't you go running out too. Must have been half a dozen times in the first half that Cleverley and Anderson chased past the ball, leaving Sevilla a clear run at the back 4 (resulting in two of the goals).

It's so basic ffs.
This is exactly the problem. When we lose possession they both get drawn to the ball, often leaving their man in acres of space to run at our helpless defence. It's easy for the opposition to pass around them whilst they chase to no avail. They both run a lot, but its ineffective and no surprise that there have been a few occasions where they're subbed off after 60-70mins because it expends a lot of unnecessary energy, that could be avoided by better positioning when we aren't in possession.

That said, I do like Anderson and it seems like Moyes is trying to get him in the best possible physical condition. I don't necessarily mind the risky passes too much, you need some players like that in your squad rather than everyone being focused on keeping possession. He's not nearly as annoying as Gerrard hitting hopeless diagonals at every opportunity. I'd love him to have an injury free season (I know it gets said at the start of every season).
 
Who do you guys think would get a start in midfield next week against Chelsea alongside Carrick? Ando or Clev?


I wouldn't be surprised to see both.
 
Who do you guys think would get a start in midfield next week against Chelsea alongside Carrick? Ando or Clev?
I think he will go with the safe option Cleverley but wouldnt be surprised to see Jones somewhere in there
 
Any news on him going if all these new MF's are truly coming?? He played loads on pre-season but not yet been used..
 
Will clearly be relegated to a carling cup/dead rubber type of game to get appearances if we sign 2 mids today.

Let's see that happen first though eh!
 
Looks like he has been thrown a lifeline. If the spanish dude was signed, I think it would have been the end of the Andershow.
 
He deserves a chance. Cleverly hasn't been great and I would like to see Ando play alongside Carrick.
 
Personally I think Ando is a much better fit next to Fellaini than Clev if Carrick doesnt play.
 
Personally I think Ando is a much better fit next to Fellaini than Clev if Carrick doesnt play.

Hopefully we'll never see a Fellaini-Ando duo in midfield. I think it will be painful to watch. Both of them aren't that good at passing and take the risky option very often. For me it should be Carrick-Fellaini, Carrick-Anderson, Carrick-Cleverley and Fellaini-Cleverley our only option (in this order).
 
Hopefully we'll never see a Fellaini-Ando duo in midfield. I think it will be painful to watch. Both of them aren't that good at passing and take the risky option very often. For me it should be Carrick-Fellaini, Carrick-Anderson, Carrick-Cleverley and Fellaini-Cleverley our only option (in this order).


I completely agree I stated in another thread that I think our reliance on Carrick is there equally much right now as before we signed Fellaini. Fellaini-Anderson I think would be a safe card if they were both playing defensively, not Ando making his bursts forward constantly.

I think Fellaini with either of them is a huge mismatch though as Ando/Clevs are too poor defensively to form a defensively solid partnership with Fellaini and they aren't good enough offensively to make up for it. I would hold Ando - Clev higher than exchanging one of them for Fellaini.

I however think that Jones-Fellaini may be used if we are so unlucky that Carrick is out when we are playing Barca/Bayern/Madrid type of teams in the CL or even Chelsea/City.
 
Fellaini-Anderson I think would be a safe card if they were both playing defensively, not Ando making his bursts forward constantly.

They won't. Both of them likes to go forward and make those energetic runs. Neither of them is very good at passing. Both of them are reckless and can waste the ball. The only worse combination in our midfield could be if we add Giggs to the duo of them.
 
They won't. Both of them likes to go forward and make those energetic runs. Neither of them is very good at passing. Both of them are reckless and can waste the ball. The only worse combination in our midfield could be if we add Giggs to the duo of them.


I don't think they would stray away from the original orders that much even if I agree with the rest.
 
Do I want him to stay? No, he offers next to nothing. He can't score to save his life, and he hasn't progressed in the slightest.

He's just collecting cheques. I'd sell him for 7-10 million.
 
Problem with that is United already have 2 players who play in that position. Rooney and Kagawa and I'd rather have Januzaj get game time in that position if it is possible.

Nobody is saying that he's a guaranteed starter there of course. But opportunities for Cleverley and Anderson to get minutes in more attacking positions is more beneficial to their development. Obvious comparison to Welbeck in that if he plays up front then he's more likely to get confidence developing as a striker. It's nice as a player to get minutes across the park in uncomfortable roles but in general they are always going to benefit in the area of confidence and control when they are playing in their comfort zone.

I still feel that Cleverley and Anderson playing beside Carrick are in roles of 'doing a job' (much like Welbeck playing left forward) and not natural positions for them to build on their confidence and identity.
 
I think he'll be off in January if we go back for Herrara, I don't see him or Cleverley as #10's, the players that will play off RVP depending on fitness and fixtures are Rooney, Welbeck and Kagawa.
 
He will probably stick around until his contract runs out and the go back to Brazil. I doubt he would get any half decent offers in Europe at this so I can't see him leaving and it's not as if he has a chance to go to the WC with Brazil anyways so he probably doesn't care much if he is a starter or not.
 
Might as well stay till we finally get the playmaking midfielder.
 
Problem with that is United already have 2 players who play in that position. Rooney and Kagawa and I'd rather have Januzaj get game time in that position if it is possible.
Nobody is saying that he's a guaranteed starter there of course. But opportunities for Cleverley and Anderson to get minutes in more attacking positions is more beneficial to their development. Obvious comparison to Welbeck in that if he plays up front then he's more likely to get confidence developing as a striker. It's nice as a player to get minutes across the park in uncomfortable roles but in general they are always going to benefit in the area of confidence and control when they are playing in their comfort zone.

I still feel that Cleverley and Anderson playing beside Carrick are in roles of 'doing a job' (much like Welbeck playing left forward) and not natural positions for them to build on their confidence and identity.

Well we will have to agree to differ on that. Against the weaker sides where United tend to dominate possession, Anderson and Cleverley have had plenty of opportunities to be in more advance positions, as the 2nd CM ahead of Carrick.They have not shown me that they have skillsets to be consistent in unlocking defences or be a particular goal threat, let alone being able to dictate play. Also United rarely play with 3 CM, and with United having players of the quality of Kagawa and the potential of Januzaj not able to get in to the match day squads I'd personally prefer those 'minutes' to go to Kagawa,Januzaj and Welbeck if Rooney is injured or rested.
 
He can't score to save his life.

In terms of goals, he's actually been our best CM for goals in recent seasons, both in outright numbers (8 to be precise) and in terms of goals per game (7 of that 8 came his last in 30 starts or so). It's just that those appearances have been, well, rather spread out, shall we say. Funnily enough, Ando actually has a pretty good chance of making his 200th Manchester United appearance this season.

He also has the highest chance of any of our players of being spotted wearing a Fellaini wig.
 
He's an awful lucky fecker in that we seemingly avoid/miss out on potential replacements for him every single summer.
 
Me thinks Fellaini would get the best out of him. I still think though that signing Hearra would have marked the end for him.


How does that work? Earlier he had 2 CMs ahead of him, now he has 3. When Carrick gets rested, it'll still be Clev who starts with Fellaini if fit.
 
I think Anderson is the new Phelan and the title to this thread should be changed.

"Anderson - What does he actually do?"


err. finish off our food supplies every night before leaving for home?
 
In terms of goals, he's actually been our best CM for goals in recent seasons, both in outright numbers (8 to be precise) and in terms of goals per game (7 of that 8 came his last in 30 starts or so). It's just that those appearances have been, well, rather spread out, shall we say. Funnily enough, Ando actually has a pretty good chance of making his 200th Manchester United appearance this season.

He also has the highest chance of any of our players of being spotted wearing a Fellaini wig.


that is comfortably more depressing than anything that happened during the transfer window. i think im going to be sick
 
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