Yes but he's clearly ahead of Ando in the pecking order as of now. Am not saying it wont change but thats how it is.
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Yes but he's clearly ahead of Ando in the pecking order as of now. Am not saying it wont change but thats how it is.
If they all get to full fitness( I have no idea what that is for Anderson), then you have to start choosing them on their merits rather than ability in my opinion.
Assuming Carrick is injured and we are choosing a partner for Fellaini, Cleverley would be a good player to play against a team like Chelsea where you'd value his possession and energy while I'd rather have Anderson against a team like Liverpool who need someone to carry the ball forward to break through them. It's horses for courses in it's the position we should have been in in midfield before now.
A donut in front of his face hanging off a stick.
I agree with all of that. What I dont see is how signing Fellaini is suddenly going to bring the best out of Anderson. Everything remains the same as earlier except the fact that competition has just increased. Anderson's talent remains unquestioned, but unless he gets fit and performs consistently, us signing Fellaini isnt going to change anything for him.
I'm really not sure what it is Fellaini brings that'll bring the best out of him, considering Anderson generally has poor passing stats alongside Carrick & Cleverley, who are arguably better passers than Fellaini. Goodness knows it's not like he can attempt any more Hollywood balls than he already does, or have any better positioning, or get any fitter purely by having Fellaini there.
Wish he had of went this summer so that these tedious posters that think he will come good can find something else to post about.
6 years he's been at United ,when does he start showing his potential.
Evra and Rio fecking around with Ando.Says it all really
funny clip.
Is he eating again lol
I gave up on Anderson last season.
He's been promising to reach his vast potential and the injury after the Reading game was enough for me.
He's been promising to reach his vast potential and the injury after the Reading game was enough for me.
He's gone even further down the pecking order now with Fellaini's arrival, so unless he seriously steps up, which is highly doubtful, I think that his days are finally numbered.
We just need Brightonian to tell us how great he's going to be!
He came in 2008 and had a good year and won everything at club level except the FA Cup.
Maybe he lost his motivation? Maybe the injuries have hampered his ability to train hard leaving him unfit and constantly playing catch-up all season for fitness.
Maybe he is content being at United and being 3rd choice.
Who knows, but I do know that he has until January to show that he actually belongs.
Maybe he lost his motivation? Maybe the injuries have hampered his ability to train hard leaving him unfit and constantly playing catch-up all season for fitness.
Maybe he is content being at United and being 3rd choice.
Who knows, but I do know that he has until January to show that he actually belongs.
No need, I'm here. He's going to be great so feck all you hating cnuts. This thread is so depressing.
He doesn't have poor passing stats against these two, they are all really similar last season. Yet Cleverly does in fact have a higher pass completion % than Carrick, does it make him a better passer? No it doesn't. Carrick and Anderson are our two best passing midfielders in the team in my opinion,especially going forward. If you bring up a chart of Cleverly's average passing range each game, it would not be surprising that they would show a lot of short passing sideways or backwards rather than forwards. That doesn't help us going forward at all. Anderson does attempt the hollywood ball more often than not, but he is the only one that actually attempts it, and offers a different route in our attack rather than the increasingly predictable short passing we do where our midfielders look at the destination for a good couple of seconds before passing. His long range ball success is in fact one of the best too, only behind Carrick and Scholes in the team last season.
Our defenders (especially Rio) attempt Hollywood balls more than Anderson does, and as much as they get shit, it isn't half of what Anderson gets on here. Our midfield gets stale with Cleverley and Carrick in the midfield sometimes, and if we keep Anderson fit and hopefully playing more regularly this season, I would rather see him playing alongside Carrick than Tom, because at least then we would see our team being driven forwards rather than seeing the 2 CMs being constantly in line with each other the entire game when attacking.
I didn't really mean Fellaini's presence might bring the best out of Anderson, I just thought it might be the case that a Rock and a Pair of Scissors might come out on top against two pieces of Paper.
That video is both funny and sad at the same time. Makes you wonder where he could have been had he not lacked the discipline to eat healthy and stay fit.
Poor Anderson, they should stop picking on him
This is magnificient from Ando:
"I have been doing more running, which has helped my fitness"
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...derson-ready-to-make-a-real-contribution.aspx
"I have been doing more running, which has helped my fitness"
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...derson-ready-to-make-a-real-contribution.aspx
"I have been eating well and sleeping well" - We believe you Ando.
With all the quotes coming out, from and about him, I think it's clear that Fergie had given up on him but I reckon we had no offers for him.
If Ferguson really thought he was worth it, he'd have had him doing double sessions to get him in shape like Moyes has done. I think the first thing Moyes did when he took over the squad was tell everyone they have a clean slate. They have a second chance if they were out of favour and they have to prove themselves again to him even if they are established. It's a good way to start and invigorate your squad.
If Ferguson really thought he was worth it, he'd have had him doing double sessions to get him in shape like Moyes has done. I think the first thing Moyes did when he took over the squad was tell everyone they have a clean slate. They have a second chance if they were out of favour and they have to prove themselves again to him even if they are established. It's a good way to start and invigorate your squad.
This won't bode well... Kagawa is 26, Rooney is a striker, and Januzaj is just a newbie
Unless Januzaj has the potential of a new Ronaldo, then there is no sense in playing him and infact no sense in playing Rooney over Kagawa in AM.
Seriously, what does it takes for him to have some games? People seems to think that Rooney is much better than kagawa, he is not, he's running all day long but he offers nothing a real born and bred AM can do.
EDIT : Sorry, I thought this is Kagawa's thread
I seriously don't know what happened to him, I recall the first match of the 2012 or 2011 where Ando and Cleverly make a very exciting partnership, but he never took off from there.
And I seriously think something is wrong with him personally, there's absolutely no reason why a player cant seem to play for 90 minutes, it's not like he's having a serious injury or anything
And I seriously think something is wrong with him personally, there's absolutely no reason why a player cant seem to play for 90 minutes, it's not like he's having a serious injury or anything
This won't bode well... Kagawa is 26, Rooney is a striker, and Januzaj is just a newbie
Unless Januzaj has the potential of a new Ronaldo, then there is no sense in playing him and infact no sense in playing Rooney over Kagawa in AM.
Seriously, what does it takes for him to have some games? People seems to think that Rooney is much better than kagawa, he is not, he's running all day long but he offers nothing a real born and bred AM can do.
EDIT : Sorry, I thought this is Kagawa's thread
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Wonder if we will see a midfield of:
Fellaini
Anderson---Cleverley
in the games where we rest Carrick.
I think it has potential. I think Fellaini in a midfield two with either Ando or Clev would offer less stability.
I think Fellaini as a DM with Anderson partnering him makes a lot of sense, arguably more sense than Carrick/Fellaini if we're looking for partnerships that compliment eachother. I don't think Anderson's done after this summer, I rather think he's given an extra chance.
Do people consider Fellaini a more defensive option than Carrick though in midfield? Because Carrick and Anderson wasn't the best CM partnership despite Carrick being better defensively imo.
I don't know what to expect of Fellaini in midfield for us though, because most of his 'memorable' games for me have come in a more advanced position, which I hope he doesn't play in for us.
I'm also not sure about Anderson in a midfield two at all, simply because of his positioning when we lose the ball. I don't think he's done here either though. In some ways, depending on how he fits in, Fellaini could actually prove to be a good thing for players like Anderson - allowing him to focus on what he's good at.
People overrate Fellaini's as Attacking mid
He's just tall and good in the air, something we have problems dealing with.
Put him against Barca it won't probably change the outcome of the game if we can't keep of the ball
It might help to have aerial presence, but we're not stoke, if we have to resort to using a tall guy that's not even a striker up front for the sake of getting lucky with a goal.... we are still Manchester United, not Everton
He's just tall and good in the air, something we have problems dealing with.
Put him against Barca it won't probably change the outcome of the game if we can't keep of the ball
It might help to have aerial presence, but we're not stoke, if we have to resort to using a tall guy that's not even a striker up front for the sake of getting lucky with a goal.... we are still Manchester United, not Everton
No, I don't consider Fellaini a better defensive option or a more defensive option - but I think he could do a good job in that role whenever Carrick doesn't play, is what I'm saying.
And I think when Carrick and Anderson's had a prolonged run in the side they've always made us play good football. I especially remember the run up to christmas in Berbatov's best season, 10/11 - we played great football.
Anderson's consistency is the problem, not the types of players IMO. Obviously this would be a problem even if he's paired with Fellaini, but there you go. I share your sentiments about him as a player.
I think a pairing of Fellaini and Ando could work well!
Ando can push forward more...and Fella can sit back
Ando can push forward more...and Fella can sit back
And I think Fellaini's best role if we ignore the second striker role he's clearly not intended to play for us, is as a holding midfielder - not a box-to-box-one, so in theory it should work decently.
I don't think a 2 man midfield will ever work, unless we have a super dynamo like Keane, Robson, Vierra, at best a diamond, but with Evra and our emphasis on wingplay, i don't think it willl ever enter Moyes' thought to go 2 man midfield, he's too cautious for that
Yeah I can definitely see some potential there.
But we did against Swansea, Chelsea and Liverpool...?
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