What the feck is happening??
Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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From panic to lolz in an hour and a half
Looks to me like the 'last stand'. Admirable in a way but still makes them look like arses. I hope in event of any future games between the club we make our hospitality lounges and two star al-dente spaghetti off limits to their dignitaries.
You have to laugh really, after years of not buying a midfielder, of course we'll struggle because the other team are a bunch of immature kids. Don't think there's much they can do about it, hopefully we still confirm it by tomorrow.
Monday morning headlines: Cops hunt for missing player. "He's got my credit card," says Woodward
I don't know much about tax and stuff but how can we just give him that amount of money without incurring any tax? Is it just some loophole?
It will be done by Monday anyway as his clause jumps by 20% after then.
I think people are panicking for nothing and having a go at Woodward for something that's not his fault.
It seem Bilbao rejected a bid from us earlier this week and since then we've gone the player buy out way. So I expect a deal to be announced tomorrow most likely. I'd say we're probably not very impressed with Bilbao's public disclosure and behavior.
It seem Bilbao rejected a bid from us earlier this week and since then we've gone the player buy out way. So I expect a deal to be announced tomorrow most likely. I'd say we're probably not very impressed with Bilbao's public disclosure and behavior.
From sources James cooper has been saying, the rejected bid was to save Bilbao face value, they do not want people to think they are happy to see their best players going. So expect the transfer to go ahead, it's only the 26th of June, so plenty of time
it dosnt matter if we have set the wheels in motion or not, thier is obviously no agreement in place as of yet. What ever way you look at it or spin it, having another player at your training ground without an agreement with the club(whether that be directly with the club or via the Spanish FA) is not a professional way to act.
compared to that a tweet is nothing.
i sincerely hope that herrera at carrigton was a media fabrication(in which case yes bilbao are acting unprofessionally) but if he was thier that is very unprofessional
It only goes up by 4 Million Euro I understand.
Someone tweet ''Basque wankers" and see if @ManUtd favours it
This would be the "paperwork complications".
That's not wise but i won't call it dumb or stupid. That's condescending and a good lawyer should never be condescending.
Irrelevant, you have to make the bid because no matter what anyone says, they will. Your telling me if somebody bids 200m for some unknown player who never gets a game for the club they would reject it in favour of them getting a nominal amount for the players buy out? Like bollocks they would and you'd have to be pretty thick headed to think so. Its the same with every player for every club, there is always a point, always an amount that will be accepted, whether your talking to bilbao or real madrid or colchester.
Well it does kind of make sense... No club wants to see their player leave, and their fans certainly don't. It's obvious that they value Herrera and don't want him to leave, but they can't escape a release clause.
They're doing exactly what we did about Ronaldo 2008/09. We publically come out and said we will not sell to Madrid at all, and we have no intentions of selling to Madrid. All the while, it appears a deal had been agreed in 2008 for him to sign in the summer of 2009, or atleast some form of pre-agreement. It's purely done to satisfy the fans, even if they know exactly whats going to happen anyway. If the club was to sit back and do nothing/say nothing, then i'm sure their fans would get pretty annoyed, rather quickly. Saying they rejected United's bid is probably just them saying "We did try to keep him... honestly"
Does strike me as a PR face saver from Bilbao.
Signing players from Bilbao is tough business - regardless of previous incompetence shown by the likes of Woodward before. This time it genuinely sounds as though the complications are coming from Spain only.
Signing players from Bilbao is tough business - regardless of previous incompetence shown by the likes of Woodward before. This time it genuinely sounds as though the complications are coming from Spain only.
What a rollercoaster of a half an hour. 
Agreed. Show some composure, it'll happen.
I have said multiple times they made a bid which was purely a formality, nothing more.
Our twitter account is not run kindergartners like Athletic's seemingly is.
What on earth are you talking about? who said anything about a lawyer?
Wasn't Javi Martinez at Bayerns training ground before Bilbao agreed to the deal?
They did it through lawyers, hence arguing that the player didn't touch the money and therefore not income tax liable. Or something to that effect.
No idea. I think it's not a written rule. It's an unwritten "tradition". So no black and white.
IINM, the player buying out his contract is already breaching his contract. Hence paying compensation in the form of the buy out.
John Obi Mikel ring any bells?
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mo money..... mo problems
still think this will go through - poor Ander will have to spend another night at Woodys
still think this will go through - poor Ander will have to spend another night at Woodys
I don't think I'll ever understand how these buy-out clauses can be so complicated. It should be really straight-forward: Pay this amount of money and we can't say no.
I think it is that. But there's no "We can't wibble our tits about to get attention on protest" clause though, therein lies the problem.
That is just the first of many more twists this summer.
It's gonna be very funny indeed.
It's gonna be very funny indeed.
The complications are legals, the buy out clause is not a complicated thing in itself, the problem is that you have to deal with something unfamiliar. If the lawyers think that they can deal with the buy out clause and the LFP requirements quickly, than the 2nd option is not a problem. Therefore not stupid
It's just business. If Bilbao aren't willing to bend and meet us halfway then so be it.
They have an unorthodox set up and whack massive buy out clauses on to their players, plus they don't really need to sell. They're relying on emotional blackmail of their homegrown players to a degree. So to criticise us for trying to get around that isn't really fair.
i dunno was he?
Bilbao are really horrible to deal with. It's not like we're ripping them off - we are paying a very inflated price for Herrera already yet they still want to make lives difficult for United.
After Llorente, Martinez and now Herrara, I would think talented players would think twice before signing for them, as getting away seems to be a nightmare.
After Llorente, Martinez and now Herrara, I would think talented players would think twice before signing for them, as getting away seems to be a nightmare.
It is discriminatory no doubt, but how do you go and apply the law in the football business? Force them to have a quota of foreign players? Would you do that to every club? A company may be be sued if applying workers feel they've been discriminated on that basis, but in sports things don't work that way.
In regards to the "restricted trade" people aren't commodities, you probably mean freedom of movement, and in that regard the Bosman ruling applies - when his contract ends.
it nothing to do with meeting us halfway he is thier player.
we have to meet thier terms before we can buy him, once we have met those terms, if via lawyers or an agreement with bilbao, then we take him to carrington, not before
Didn't Adem Ljajic also stand with Tosic holding a Manchester United shirt alongside Sir Alex only for him to never actually sign for us?John Obi Mikel ring any bells?
I do think the Herrera deal will happen soon, either later today, or tomorrow. It's only a matter of time in my opinion
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