Bilbao just favourited this tweet. They're clearly loving this attention. It's all a game, nothing more.
Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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Pretty much Herrera has to pay the money himself to buyout his contract. That money is liable for tax. So he pays it himself or give him the difference.
Not sure about why he wasn't, but i believe Bayern did keep that money aside just in case he was? How ever Spain are cracking down on tax in football. e.g.: Messi.
You can't top a top position then say you have no experience. You will naturally have certain expectations of a person in the position. If their experience means they aren't up to it then they should have not been appointed. It doesn't give them a freedom from criticism.
well the bbc gives me more hope,
but been confident of signing a player and acualy sign him are very diffrent things. for all we know it is just bravado form some one inside united saying, yeah were still confident of getting our man, just becuase if they didnt say that this morning they would very daft, when everyone was expecting them to announce today.
Move away from the computer. You're really losing your shit now.
Out of interest, what do you think they do with all the money they get from signing players? Make all the seats in their stadium out of solid gold?
Agree - seems to know all the facts about this deal without applying any logic or common sense.
Does the Bosman ruling only apply the The FA, or is it a European thing?
Can he not piss on THEIR cornflakes instead and just pay off his wages and feck them over?
Can he not piss on THEIR cornflakes instead and just pay off his wages and feck them over?
Do you know who Bilbao are and their reputation for selling players
I think that it was a waste of time to make the bid, like I said it was nothing but a formality.
Do we have any idea how much the tax rate is and what it means in regards to the buy out fee?
They're retweeting about how they are one of the most tweeted topics in the Manchester area. Then they tweet in English. Next they favourite a Liverpool supporter tweeting "hahaha" at the situation.
Athletic are loving the attention.
Athletic are loving the attention.
What a small time club
Relax, United would have done their due diligence on this - it is happening.
Invest it in their academy? In the past few years it went into the new San Mames. Again, what I'm saying is not a theory, it's fact. Bilbao only sign Basque players. 40 million isn't much use to them as a team due to their limited pool.
Out of interest, what do you think they do with the money they get from signing players? Make all the seats in their stadium out of solid gold?
Seems very immature and small-time from Bilbao, knowing the player wants the move and has made the likely very difficult move of informing the club.
Allegedly. Not published yet. For obvious reasons.
They blow it on their subscription to ancestry.com so they can find long lost Basque greatgrandparents for decent players.
Out of interest, what do you think they do with the money they get from signing players? Make all the seats in their stadium out of solid gold?
Yep, they did, but he was never called to pay it. Although I heard if he was ever to move back to Spain he would have to pay that fee plus another fee for the buying club.
I'm sort of loving Bilbao's stance on this. I don't know many professional football clubs who would take the piss so much on social media. It's hilarious.
Bosman is an EU ruling with regard to the free movement of persons. It protected players from essentially being treated like a product rather than a person with rights. Any EU countries should be subject to it.
I havn't seen anything about it anywhere but here.You would think if we were set to potentially pay an extra 14m in tax, some of the journalists might have seen fit to report that.
If the reports are right, United are paying 3 of the 7 million since he reduced his demand by 4.
Obvioulsy he could pay the entirety of the tax but that would be weird.
I believe €36 Million + Tax = £40 Million.
If it went up to €40 then the total is around £44-45 Million.
I would be worried about if we even have the money, if this falls through
I agree, it's actually pretty hilarious and fair play to them
Do you know who Bilbao are and their reputation for selling players
I think that it was a waste of time to make the bid, like I said it was nothing but a formality.
We're a publically listed club. I doubt the shareholders would accept "Bilbao have a reputation, you see" as an excuse for not making that bid.
When does Herrera's contract run down?
United are still confident of a deal.
We gave him 36m to pay the buy out clause there is a taxation on that, that's very simple.
It'd be hilarious if they were actually taking the piss, but you get the impression that they've all gathered around a single laptop in the boardroom after hours of negotiations about what the tweet should contain and then posted it with the sternest of faces. They aren't trolling. It might be interpreted as such, like Arsene Wenger's bid of £40m + £1 for Suarez but it all appears to be their actual stance. I just can't work out if it's highly professional or the complete opposite.
Hence why I said "Nothing but a formality"
That's a possible interpretation of an ambiguous contract law clause, that has historically not been treated in that way by the tax authorities. The other interpretation says a club can pay the money on the player's behalf.
The contract clause is ambiguous. Bayern acted as a responsible business and set aside money for a possible legal challenge, which so far hasn't come.
Not really that complicated, is it? By increasing the effective price of the player they decrease the chance of it being bought. There's also the elusive (and probably not that important to them) issue of more tax income to their region
.Making it has hard as possible for an unwanted deal to proceed is pretty self-explanatory. Even if they are aware that they won't be able to prevent the transfer it's logical that they will make it as hard as possible to the buyer. It also makes less likely that buying clubs want to go through this hassle very often, thus limiting the appeal of their players.
Lads, the minute you guys mentioned them favouring that Liverpool tweet they prompetly unfavoured it. They're reading the cafe.
It tells a lot about the club to be honest. It's all about pride and there stance on things. I'm not sure it's a good image to have to be honest. Bilbao fans will be loving it, but I hope there's something we can do to feck them over and make the look stupid, I really do.
Oh look we've bid £29m for a player and the usual doom and gloom arseholes are back to wondering if we even have any money. Great.
well thier is becuase when laywers get involved in can take weeks and weeks, in which time the player could get injured, the deal could fall through.....
also the simple fact of been disrespectful, having a player who belongs to another club having a medical with us with no agreement in place, which makes the club look daft and unprofessional.
Guillem's assuring or not so assuring words.
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