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Ander Herrera is a Manchester United Player!
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Just watching now, many thanks.
so fellow caftards is this on?
After we blew Herrera's transfer last summer, a part of me is trying not get too excited about this. I don't want United to let me down by botching this deal again. Can't help it though. Signing Herrera would be immense.
Well shit just got real, that's fantastic, we're getting a midfielder.
BBC seem to think so. It's more on than anything else, for sure.
Yup. That'll do me
I've learned something new today anyway. Never knew the beeb was so conservative on stories like this. You live and learn.
Yep. Great singing and thank feck we haven't stalled like last summer. It's already a better window and it's still early days.
Tis on indeed.
After this and Shaw, I am fully expecting Moyes to claim any success we have in the future was due to his groundwork...
This is done. BBC and Ducker are pretty much as reliable sources as we'll get until the club confirms it.
This should be as good as done now.
Yeah, he's not like most of the current or new breed of Spanish midfielder in terms of his passing or touch. It's still good but not close to the consistency and consistent accuracy of Thiago or Koke (and obviously Xavi and Busquets).
I wouldn't say it's 'really poor' though. I'd say his technique is at around Aaron Ramsey's level.
He still has the quick-thinking and vision of a typical Spanish midfielder though, and the energy and doggedness of a typical English midfielder, so I think he'll be okay. He's a good blend of both. Better at dribbling forward at speed than most of the other Spanish guys too.
Someone a bit more calculated next to him would be perfect.
If it's on the club website it'll be dismissed as wild tabloid speculation or blamed on hackers.
You're jets are well and truly ice cold, aren't they?
You really don't let yourself get excited over anything until it's absolutely certain.
There doesn't appear to be a hint of inner Muppet. Good job.
Is he any good?
Well that post rained on my parade a bit.
Well, at least it means LVG is going for a really offensive tactic if he want someone like Herrera to be the CM. That is very positive at least!
Oh please, that overrated Catalan has been?
But seriously, Herrera must be someone United really wanted if they've been chasing him since last summer. Personally, I don't know anything about him, but Spain currently has such an array of top class midfielders, I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a star in the EPL.
So what number will he get?
United would have gone back in for Herrera if Moyes was still in charge. It would have been put to LvG if he still wanted Herrera and he's rubber stamped it. Regardless, he will improve our midfield a hell of a lot and make that link between defence -> midfield -> attack.
Even with one signing I'm excited about the new season. Valencia has signed a new deal, which I think LvG will get the best out of him. We know he can do a lot better than he did last season so there is no reason why he can't get back to that form of a couple of seasons ago.
Even with one signing I'm excited about the new season. Valencia has signed a new deal, which I think LvG will get the best out of him. We know he can do a lot better than he did last season so there is no reason why he can't get back to that form of a couple of seasons ago.
Finally a midfielder signing if all this is true, but it should be...Now bring in a left back, another midfielder and a winger and sell some scraps e.g Young and we're set. So excited with van Gaal at helm too.
Probably. Decent end-of-August €54m signing
Impressively done by the club if this is confirmed in the next few hours. No real leaks on our side, paid the release clause, agreed terms, no faffing about. Hopefully they keep it up.
His passing has been 81% accurate on the last 2 seasons but I am not sure that this is because he isn't good at it, or because of the system how Bilbao plays. If you look at their players (I am not counting defenders), Muniain has the best passing stats with 83% while most of their midfielders/attacking midfielders passing stats vary from 78% to 83% (with some as low as 72% or so). I guess it is more because of their system rather than because of their individual qualty.
Interesting that we got him for the £28m. Guess that mean we got the club to accept a bid rather than using the actual buyout clause? Or we found a way around the tax problem?
Would be strange if we actually convinced them to sell as they'll have difficulty replacing him with their Basque only policy.
Would be strange if we actually convinced them to sell as they'll have difficulty replacing him with their Basque only policy.
Think he'll thrive under van Gaal.
After Everton refuses five joint offers for Barkley and Baines.
That would make him a true Manchester United signing then, not quite there yet but with all the potential in the world to be moulded into a fantastic player over the next few years. I'm happy with this.
I think you guys are right. But couldn't Kagawa and Mata play as a front 3 of a 433 along with RvP? They are goalscoring no. 10s. We have seen similar systems at many clubs and NTs like Dortmund, Spain, even Chelsea iirc.
I think it is important for midfielders to score goals because the forwards can a lot of times become committed to the inside of the box and if we don't have anybody decent to take shots in the space behind them and the midfield, then that's a lot of opportunities wasted. All those Scholes goals come to mind.
28m is the amount of release clause but apparently we aren't using it but we're doing a 'friendly' deal with them.
The second part is very true, he has the Iniesta trait which can't be measured of not dribbling past players but receiving the ball in a way which "beats" players. His offense is very interesting, his passing accuracy isn't amazing, his through-balls aren't, he reminds me quite a lot about Kagawa but a more direct version. But he won't be the one to take the game by the scruff, instead he relies heavily on linking up with other players.
He will be doing the job Giggs did, which made Kagawa have some brilliant performances of passing - then moving in to space. Instead of passing and just standing still and go "Ohh what do you do with the ball now Mata/Shinji/Rooney".
The thing I am not too convinced about is his defending though, he will have so much responsibility and his best role is as an attacking midfielder. But then again I was the one who thought LVG could turn Kagawa in to a player who could fill the Herrera role, so why wouldn't I believe LVG can work his magic with Herrera.
Indeed, so why are they being so friendly all of a sudden? I thought they generally made a principle out of refusing to sell?
Pretty sure that's just his actual release clause.
We should buy de Jong and play him next to Ander.
What number is Cleverley?So what number will he get?
Alll Bilbao's midfielders have relatively poor pass completion stats, though. Most likely because they press so high up the pitch so immediately have to complete passes deep in the opposition half, as opposed to working it patiently from very deep.
One of the many reasons focussing exclusively on stats can give a very misleading impression.
Mind you, if his defensive stats are as good as you imply that's great news. Will make such a change to our game having a CM who is really sharp in the tackle.
He's a number 2
If he's Steven Gerrard in his prime, then bring it on.
Herrera, Mata, Januzaj, Rooney and RVP on the pitch at the same time.
We're hopefully only getting started this summer too.
We're hopefully only getting started this summer too.
feckit! it is 0330 here and I am waiting for the news... Got to sleep now.
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