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6.4 Season Average Rating
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10:07
Mourinho explains Herrera's man-marking job
“I didn’t play him against Anderlecht because I wanted him totally focused on this job because it is a very difficult job,” he explained. “He did it very well.”

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He's the only midfielder who can consistently do that role well in our team. Not to be negative but I've been saying before, it's a real question who can do his role if he gets injured or suspended. We need a competitor for him or at least a young back up in the same mould.
 
After being benched almost the whole season under LvG I'm so happy for him! What a wonderful display yesterday and a great season for a lad with a huge heart!
 
After being benched almost the whole season under LvG I'm so happy for him! What a wonderful display yesterday and a great season for a lad with a huge heart!

Indeed! Deserved a proper chance and a few consecutive games. There's something similar in Ander and Evra.
 
What an amazing performance. I was very down on him after Stamford Bridge and yesterday thankfully has me singing his praises again. Stuck to Hazard like glue and didn't let him get a kick and nice to see him scoring as well.

Well I say 'nice' but in truth I was so ecstatic I jumped over a chair celebrating :lol::lol: Im sure if I tried that today Id end up flat on my face :lol::lol:

A man marking performance that should quite rightly be up there with Park/Pirlo, Anderson/Gerrard/Fabregas and Jones/Fellaini. If Anderson gets a song about it then so should Herrera.
 
It would be really amazing for him to win some major trophies with us before his time at "Old Trafford" is over.

CL and couple of EPL titles :drool:
 
LVG wanted a double pivot. That run was when LVG's hand was forced & he had to use a modern midfield 3. LVG's midfield 3 would be double pivot and a traditional no 10. Herrera ain't LVG's no 10. As one of the pivot role, Herrera as sole creative one is not that good: lack passing range, ability to carry the ball through midfield, complete control the tempo of the game. A sole defensive one for LVG would require calmer straits. Mourinho can adapt to players' ability & strait while still keep fundamental of his system, so it's no problem.
Yep, that's the thing. He tried to acquire pieces for his Dutch World Cup setup and it didn't really pan out. Then we stumbled upon the 4-3-3 - which worked fairly well and got the best out of a lot of players at his disposal, but instead of being pragmatic and building upon it, he thought better to rip it apart and build a 4-2-3-1 - even though it didn't suit a lot of our players in terms of them being good fits for it. For reference, Carrick was already showing signs of being suspect in a pivot given his declining mobility and lower press resistance, unless the opposition sat deep and allowed him time and space on the ball. That's aside from the lack of a good point forward for his setup (Memphis was unsuccessfully tried, Rooney wasn't very impressive), or effective players out wide - especially with the sale of Di María.

As for Ander not being good in a pivot, he can certainly play in a midfield two depending on how you interpret the role. For example, if you use a 9½ type point forward in a counter-attacking system, Ander can play in a high press setup in a flat-ish 4-4-2 alongside another high press midfielder (a bit like Drinkwater + Kanté).

------------------9-------Griezmann
Forsberg-----------------------------------Di María
---------------Herrera-------Fabinho

He can also play alongside a more consistent passer with a playmaking point forward as a high energy box-to-box (of sorts). eg.

-------------------------9---------------------------
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LAM-----------------------------------------RW
----------------------Dybala

------------Herrera------------Weigl------------
What do you mean when you say Louis used him in a similar role during United's six game winning run? I'm not disagreeing, just genuinely interested. To me, during that run he played in quite an orthodox right side of a midfield 3.

Vs Chelsea was a role I don't think I have seen before for a player like Herrera. He played as a pseudo tucked in right back behind Valencia with Darmian playing a similar role on the other side. It was almost a 2-2-4-2 with Herrera on the right of the second 2.

Thinking about it, I remember Fergie did something similar vs Liverpool when his full backs followed McManaman and Berger when they played behind a single striker.
No, not for the Chelsea game specifically in terms of following Hazard around. More as in through the course of the season in a combative, all-action role. eg. here are his ratings from the City game in 2015:
HERRERA

Kept his recent dominant form going. Had an interesting battle with Silva that kept the Blues’ key player quite. 8
 
Is Herrera available for the Europe game or is he still marking Hazard in London?
 
first time I've ever given a player a full 10 out of 10.
Excellent performance!

For all the people that don't understand why this forum is in love with this guy it's because of games like this.
 
An average rating of 6.3 this season astounds me.
He's the joint 5th highest rated player on here alongside Carrick and Mata who are also on 6.3. 4th is Mkhitaryan, 3rd is Romero, 2nd is Bailly and 1st is Valencia. Zlatan is just behind Herrera in 6th with 6.2.

I'd say out of all of those, Valencia and Zlatan are the only ones you could argue has had a better season.
 
He's the joint 5th highest rated player on here alongside Carrick and Mata who are also on 6.3. 4th is Mkhitaryan, 3rd is Romero, 2nd is Bailly and 1st is Valencia. Zlatan is just behind Herrera in 6th with 6.2.

I'd say out of all of those, Valencia and Zlatan are the only ones you could argue has had a better season.

Romero hasn't, but I understand why his rating is higher, purely because when he has played he hasn't done anything wrong.
 
'He's not shellfish' :lol:

He's a clutch performer. Best performances are in the big games. Just about entered his prime as well, hopefully many more big game performances to come.
 
Why has no on talked about how productive he has been? He's there as a more defensive option but the guy has 10 assists this season. Thats absolutely great. Considering Pogba has been less productive yet his role is just to create it just shows how complete a player Herrera is.
 
Did his job so well yesterday. Sickening how fit he is. Nice of Luiz to duck out of the way of his shot too.
 
Did his job so well yesterday. Sickening how fit he is. Nice of Luiz to duck out of the way of his shot too.

He's got an immense gas tank on him for sure. Would love to see the stats of which player covered the most ground for us this season, I'm thinking both him and Valencia would top that list for sure.
 
Had one of the best players in the Premier League in his pocket. Probably his best performance in a United shirt, Mourinho used him perfectly yesterday.
 
I remember last season when plenty on here had convinced themselves that he was overhyped. Should be a warning to some that we should be showing a bit of patience, rather than writing off players after a poor season.
 
Strongly disagree that he was average in his first season.

Yeah. He had a good first season and was woefully underused by Van Gaal for some reason.

Had a difficult second season culminating in his worst game for Utd at Upton Park but he's been absolutely magnificent this year.
 


Someone needs to teach him how to hold a microphone. You hold the mic steady with one hand and if you want to gesture, you use your free hand. He keeps moving the mic and completely fecking up the sound levels.

I don't know why that triggerred me so much but it sure did :lol:
 
I'm always amazed by the fact he's not a particularly "big guy" stature wise, he looks pretty slim, but the levels of energy he puts out every match is crazy. It's like he has 3 lungs or something.
 
I remember last season when plenty on here had convinced themselves that he was overhyped. Should be a warning to some that we should be showing a bit of patience, rather than writing off players after a poor season.
Lot of us were saying he was being ridiculously misused with all his best attributes neutralised by the ridiculously limited system. An all action CM told to stay put, not chase the ball, not to press, not to move from his position etc. Bizarre.
 
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