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just make it easier, he needs to commit himself as a team player and he deoesn't, yet at least
Can you clear it up further by also explaining what this means?
And to save time, whatever you are about to write to explain yourself, also write another post explaining what that is supposed to be saying.
And you have first hand evidence to prove this I imagine? Since your post makes me feel that you are convinced of your opinion.
It's not a case of comparing Herrera's playing style to Kagawa, it's the fan reaction. Last year when Kagawa was being left out the team people wanted blood. It's similar with Herrera, we win 3-1 with a decent performance and people are still crying about Herrera not being in the team.
I have nothing against him, I think he's a very neat and tidy player. He does well in his cameo appearances at the end of the game. But I still don't think he has done enough to warrant a first team place. It might be a reputation thing, it would be very hard to drop Rooney, RVP, Falcao or Di Maria. Especially when they're not performibg particularly bad.
He should be challenging for the role that Januzaj played yesterday. Although he has Mata and probably Fellaini ahead of him.
I'm assuming he will play on Tuesday, let's hope he puts in a good shift and can move up the pecking order.
I have nothing against him, I think he's a very neat and tidy player. He does well in his cameo appearances at the end of the game. But I still don't think he has done enough to warrant a first team place. It might be a reputation thing, it would be very hard to drop Rooney, RVP, Falcao or Di Maria. Especially when they're not performibg particularly bad.
He should be challenging for the role that Januzaj played yesterday. Although he has Mata and probably Fellaini ahead of him.
I'm assuming he will play on Tuesday, let's hope he puts in a good shift and can move up the pecking order.
With Januzaj getting into form, we could try sth like this but Herrera will probably play only in fa cups. He could be the first name on team sheet in every team in the world. Does Herrera know Van Gaal's daughters?
Blind
diMAria-Herrera
Januzaj(Mata)
Rooney- Falcao(Wilson)
Blind
diMAria-Herrera
Januzaj(Mata)
Rooney- Falcao(Wilson)
So the Barcas and the Chelseas are desperate to get their hands on Herrera? And he'd be first name on their teamsheets? He was struggling to get starts for Bilbao at the start of last season.
I'm confused why we're not using him more after paying so much for him, but the hyperbole is just getting crazier and crazier. We didn't need to fight off the giants of Europe to get him.
Come on now.
No he couldn't, he wouldn't be in most elite sides first 11 (Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern). That's not downplaying his ability, he's a very good player who is exactly what we need long term and has potential to improve. I wouldn't say he's as essential to the side as what people make out though.
I think that was more to do with getting hassle from the fans for wanting to move. I think he then got in the side and all that settled down. Although I do agree that saying he would be the first name on every team in the worlds teamsheet is over the top. He should be on ours or at least coming on as a sub.
In less than 800 minutes he has three goals and three assist. All open play, I think. Considering our form its weird that a contribution like that is not rewarded.
If Herrera continued with a contribution like that, with regular gametime, Van Gaal would struggle to defend a purchase of his friend, Strootman.
If Herrera continued with a contribution like that, with regular gametime, Van Gaal would struggle to defend a purchase of his friend, Strootman.
He shouldn't even be looking at Strootman now. If he does it's to keep a promise to him and not thinking about Manchester United's needs.
Beating the bottom side 3-1 doesn't make the team perfect, so it's only fair to discuss improvements - it's a forum after all.
The way I see it, what LvG seems to be doing would suit Herrera perfectly. Possession football and high pressing. He's done well almost every time when given the chance, so it's puzzling why he's continuously being left out. Almost feels like LvG decided from the beginning that he didn't fancy him and sticks with it, much like his 5-3-2. Seems like he's now accepting that 5-3-2 might be the perfect formation - wonder how long it'll take before he gives Herrera a proper chance in the team.
For what it's worth, barca were interested I him for a while. The Bilbao thing is also completely due to the transfer thing and the manager being a bit resentful towards him, but he quickly found his way back in the team and played really well again.
Thought obviously he wouldn't start at any team in the world. He would get games and be a squad player at even the best teams though, as he is pretty unique in his style and can help any team.
Herrera seems to be getting rated higher and higher in here with every game he misses!
I don't think LVG rates the defensive side of his game. Plus he loves a risky pass which regularly loses possession. Di Maria seems to be the only player in the current system afforded the right to take such risks.
I don't think LVG rates the defensive side of his game. Plus he loves a risky pass which regularly loses possession. Di Maria seems to be the only player in the current system afforded the right to take such risks.
I never said the team was perfect... But out of interest who would you drop from yesterday's team to play Herrera?
The way I see it: Rooney won't get dropped because LVG has stated this. Di Maria is our best player, when he is fit he should always play, RVP and Falcao both played well together for the first time in a while, and Januzaj was our brightest spark in the second half.
I would be surprised if LVG plays him against West Ham next week. There has been a lot of talk that he wasn't a LVG signing which makes sense why he has to prove himself more than others. Plus I've seen people on here mention that some fanzines have stated that he has missed some sessions and his attitude isn't up to scratch.
Is it not at all possible that maybe van Gaals plans stretch further than this season, and he'll infact become an important player in a different system once we have a settled squad?
Who could he have possibly played instead of yesterday? Januzaj? So when Januzaj doesn't play we get worried van Gaals wasting his potential. Di Maria? Why would we spend so much on a world class player if we aren't going to play him? Falcao? Then we moan that Falcao isn't playing.
Contrary to popular belief, we can only field 11 players a game, and games are something we are also short of this season.
Who could he have possibly played instead of yesterday? Januzaj? So when Januzaj doesn't play we get worried van Gaals wasting his potential. Di Maria? Why would we spend so much on a world class player if we aren't going to play him? Falcao? Then we moan that Falcao isn't playing.
Contrary to popular belief, we can only field 11 players a game, and games are something we are also short of this season.
I was just wondering how he is late for sessions? He always seems to be driven to thetraining ground by either Mata or De Gea, in fact he has said De Gea is his chauffer. It is just strange how he would be late.
Honestly have no idea, he seems to be a complete pro so I'm surprised these rumours are coming out. I've seen it mentioned on here a few times, also on the United Rant podcast.
Problem is, it only takes one comment, even if untrue and it will fly round Manchester like the plague. From recent interviews I think he might be realising he has to knuckle down, but he just doesn't come across as someone who wouldn't put the work in. Probably just someone shit stirring.
He should be one of the 5-6 names on the team sheet every week. We miss his passing, vision, and pressing when he's not on the pitch. He's the type of players that makes everyone around him better.
For whatever reason it seems lvg has lost confidence in him. i think it will take rooney falling on his face in midfield against the likes of city or chelsea for lvg to see the light and ditch the Rooney in midfield expirement.
For whatever reason it seems lvg has lost confidence in him. i think it will take rooney falling on his face in midfield against the likes of city or chelsea for lvg to see the light and ditch the Rooney in midfield expirement.
I think the teams mentioned would use him certainly more than us so far. He will be the essential part of our team in years coming no matter what. He is actually much better than I thought he could be. Player with his work ethic and ability both defensively and attacking wise would start, okay, for ALMOST every side and would certainly have more starts.. Just because the insane manager needs to have his balance and have his fav players he doesn't play. He is everything what we need to start with when we setting up the midfield... and it is frustrating to see manager thinking otherwise.. but he will be back in the side soon..
Your new £30m midfielder, and one whose acquisition addressed a lack in the squad at that, should not be contenting himself with a meagre six league starts come the start of February. No unit of players is ever perfectly settled; if Louis can't learn to juggle he shall be Woodward's human canon before he knows it.
It's quite simple really, employ Rooney as a striker and start Herrera in his stead in CM.
I have very little patience for Van Gaal's complaints about imbalance, what with his proclivity to exacerbate the problem.
We might have to get the manager sectioned instead.
Yesterday made me really angry, not that he didn't start, but Leicester were there for the taking and he messed about with the substitutions instead of putting Ander on to crank up the pressure on Leicester. Arsenal's result today has not helped my mood. Only Anderson flying to Brazil has cheered me up.
So players should get games based on their price tag now, should they? Well if it's all about the money, you're now asking him to drop one of our 3 biggest earners, so that's a no go. I suppose in your suggested philosophy, Januzaj won't be getting any game time whatsoever.
We currently have 2 full backs and 2 natural wingers in our side, and the 2 wingers are shite wingers. We have an imbalance, it's clear, and that is why we persist with this formation. It allows us to fit Rooney, van Persie, Falcao and Di Maria in the same side without being completely exposed defensively. In the current situation, it's hard to fit Herrera in, but during the summer when we can recruit wide players and change formation, Herrera's chances to play will increase, he fits the long term philosophy and will be a good player for years to come. We pay money for years of service, not months.
I think in this case the price tag should be ignored. That buy out clauses for you. If we were buying from elsewhere we would be saying we had a bargain. Bilbao overprice their players as they really don't want to sell them.
No one says he's the new Robson, but he is certainly better in midfield than Rooney and offers more than most of our other midfielders. So to see him more often would certainly be beneficial for our team in many fans' views
He messed with the substitutions to switch to 442/4231 for the last half an hour, which would suggest that playing with wingers is in his plans. Id much, much rather see that, than see Herrera get a few pointless minutes. Leicester weren't there for the taking, they'd already been taken. We were 3-0 up.
and now i'm really convinced publicity firms are active in caf to act on their client(s) behalf
I just hate the "we won, so don't cry for a different team"-argument.. It's the same as "we lost, stop knee-jerking". Basically there's no time to consider changes if you ask some people.
About who to drop, I'd play Herrera in midfield instead of Rooney. I have no idea what Rooney is doing there. Who'd then play in attack is for a different thread, but as I see it Herrera is a far better midfielder than Rooney. At times we desperate lack pace in our attacks and I think Herrera is one of our best (if not the best) players when it comes to pass-and-move football. He always seem to think a couple of passes ahead and be on the move before the ball has even left his feet.
One of Falcao or Van Persie. Or both. They were both ok, neither were great, both are relatively old, been shite for the vast majority of the season, offer pretty much the same thing going forward in that if they don't score then they are relatively useless. We would be much better as a team if we just pushed Rooney up to his normal position as a striker, and put in Herrera in midfield, or both Herrera and mata in for RvP and Falcao. Neither have impressed at all.
I truly am baffled by some of the comments in this thread. Not once has anyone said he's world class or that he's the answer to all our problems. He's being treated really unfairly and he's a much better player than some of you give him credit for.
What he is, and what no one can deny, is arguably one of our best midfielders. Is Fellaini and Blind better than him in central midfield? No. Is Di Maria better? Probably but we've yet to see the best of him.
He's certainly better than Rooney though, which I'm sure even the biggest Herrera-basher has to admit.
What he is, and what no one can deny, is arguably one of our best midfielders. Is Fellaini and Blind better than him in central midfield? No. Is Di Maria better? Probably but we've yet to see the best of him.
He's certainly better than Rooney though, which I'm sure even the biggest Herrera-basher has to admit.
Does he add height on corners? Is he a physical presence in midfield? Is he able to bring balls down on his chest and keep possession from kicks from the goalkeeper? In this current side, he's not automatically a better fit for Fellaini all the time. As for Blind, they perform different roles so aren't particularly battling out for the same position. He's not better than Rooney either, but then again we just seem to ignore all the qualities Rooney possesses to fit our own agendas so that's a moot point in the grand scheme of things.
Tbf, someone on this page said he'd be the first name on the team sheet for every team in the world.
You are right, some people have gone overboard, but I just think the lad is a lot better than what we have had recently. Our game seems to pick up when he is on the pitch. If LvG doesn't like risk takers then I am not sure he is a good fit as a manager of Manchester United. A lot of our play in the past has been based on willing to take a risk. We have never been pragmatic.
Never heard this - always struck me as a guy with a great attitude. Any links?
That just doesn't seem like him at all. Sounds more like a case of chinese whispers.
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