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Phil Duck said:
I like Fellaini recent form but we are really looking stupid by not playing Herrera more.
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Can't we play them both though?

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Rafael----------Jones-------McNair--------Shaw
-----------------------Carrick---------------------
-------Herrera-----------------------ADM--------
-----------------------Fellaini---------------------
-------------Rooney-------------RvP--------------

Could that work...?
 
Phil Duck said:
None of them left.
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Neither has Herrera. Of course, he might be off at some point in the future (other than homegrown players, of whom we have precious few, that's always going to be the case, and not just for us,) but I really wouldn't worry about it. The alternative would be, as someone mentioned, to buy only local and/or players who aren't of the requisite standard.
 
I am enjoying us playing when he is in the team, hope we see him finally against a better side and how he will cope.
 
I really hope he's back for the Arsenal game too. He should play in Rooney's spot in midfield with Rooney replacing Januzaj in the wide forward role. Dropping RVP for this game would be crazy.
 
Arsenal are made for him, they lack physicality which would give him more time on the ball.
 
You know if we play 4,2,3,1 again, I would really like to see Ander as one of the 3 behind the striker. I know its unlikely because we have Rooney as our number 10, Di Maria and Januzaj on the right and left but I really think Ander's could take any of those 3 positions and play it just as effectively. You might argue he doesn't have the pace but I don't see that being an issue because he has a tremendous football brain and his link up play could help simplify the problem we are having in unlocking defences quickly. I do believe Rooney has to be more courageous at times but if he had Herrera next to him and Di Maria on the other side then I think they can help him gain that extra yard to get into the box with fast interchanging passes.
 
the writing was on the wall tbh. I said it 2 weeks ago, if he wasnt match fit, he wouldnt sit on the bench. I am absolutely surprised that van Gaal benched him, he played pretty much every game since pre sason before the West Brom game.
 
I think the useless bunch at the back have done for Ander. If we had a full defence playing he would be in the side. LvG will learn in the end.
 
LVG prefers Fellaini because of his height and general big frame.

But there is no reason why you can't get Carrick, Fellaini and Herrara in the same midfield.
 
izec said:
the writing was on the wall tbh. I said it 2 weeks ago, if he wasnt match fit, he wouldnt sit on the bench. I am absolutely surprised that van Gaal benched him, he played pretty much every game since pre sason before the West Brom game.
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Don't be so dramatic. Herreara has been out for a while, chucking him in after a long lay off is a bad idea.

Although, I don't like this three at the back crap, has been a nightmare for us.
 
Disappointed, it looked like he could be a breath of fresh air in midfield and he started off very well but could now have no future here. Must be very frustrating.
 
In what universe in Fellaini a better player than Herrera? Absolute farce, Herrera gets benched for afroman.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
LVG prefers Fellaini because of his height and general big frame.

But there is no reason why you can't get Carrick, Fellaini and Herrara in the same midfield.
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Can only do that in the diamond with Di maria in his best position. For any other formation, its either 1 striker and Di maria wide or its Herrera vs fellaini. Herrera wins almost every time for me, but he's just been a victim of circumstance the past month. Broke a rib so lost his place, fellaini played well, and then vs palace and now his height can come in use (for different reasons).
 
This was the ideal game for him as Arsenal don't have any physicality in midfield. Herrera has the tenacity and skill to match up with Arteta and Wilshire comfortably, we don't need a big lumberer whose elbows are at the head height of their CM's.
 
Devil may care said:
This was the ideal game for him as Arsenal don't have any physicality in midfield. Herrera has the tenacity and skill to match up with Arteta and Wilshire comfortably, we don't need a big lumberer whose elbows are at the head height of their CM's.
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You can also say that is ideal for Fellaini as they won't be able to handle him and he could possibly destroy them like he used to do at Everton.
 
Ace of Spades said:
Don't be so dramatic. Herreara has been out for a while, chucking him in after a long lay off is a bad idea.

Although, I don't like this three at the back crap, has been a nightmare for us.
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Carrick has been out for much longer. Injury has nothing to do with Herrera being left out.
 
Fellaini is a good chester of the ball. THat's about it. Herrera is better in every other aspect.

We finally sign a brilliant CM only to put him on the bench. ffs
 
limerickcitykid said:
You can also say that is ideal for Fellaini as they won't be able to handle him and he could possibly destroy them like he used to do at Everton.
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More like he's odds on to elbow one of Arsenal's minis given they all are at the right height for him to get a red.
 
Sarni said:
Carrick has been out for much longer. Injury has nothing to do with Herrera being left out.
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Well, it kinda does. Fellaini is a like for like replacement (not as good of course) but has other qualities like his height and strength, which is exactly what Arsenal are weak against. Against Palace you could say we needed height as well because our defence was Blind and McNair, so we really needed that extra height and sstrength to make up for it. Of course, that could all be bollocks but I think it's just the circumstances of Herrera's injury, fellaini's form and the opposition we have played against have given Fellaini the spot for now.
 
akash02 said:
Fellaini is a good chester of the ball. THat's about it. Herrera is better in every other aspect.

We finally sign a brilliant CM only to put him on the bench. ffs
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Fellaini is more physical, which is well known to be the way to get to Arsenal. I'm surprised so many of you are surprised by this decision! The only way Herrera was getting into this starting XI was in a wide role. He'll probably be back in the starting XI vs Hull, and probably in place of Fellaini, unless he has an absolute stormer today.
 
Sarni said:
Disappointed, it looked like he could be a breath of fresh air in midfield and he started off very well but could now have no future here. Must be very frustrating.
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Similar to mata, he also has a very good record for us Moyes played him quite a lot but under LVG he doesn't seem to get a look in

I guess LVG is just racist towards skinny spaniards :D
 
bosnian_red said:
Well, it kinda does. Fellaini is a like for like replacement (not as good of course) but has other qualities like his height and strength, which is exactly what Arsenal are weak against. Against Palace you could say we needed height as well because our defence was Blind and McNair, so we really needed that extra height and sstrength to make up for it. Of course, that could all be bollocks but I think it's just the circumstances of Herrera's injury, fellaini's form and the opposition we have played against have given Fellaini the spot for now.
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I hope that's all it is cause it's upsetting not seeing Herrera play. Would think he'd be great in this game. Christ I'm worried..
 
Sied said:
Fellaini is more physical, which is well known to be the way to get to Arsenal. I'm surprised so many of you are surprised by this decision! The only way Herrera was getting into this starting XI was in a wide role. He'll probably be back in the starting XI vs Hull, and probably in place of Fellaini, unless he has an absolute stormer today.
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We should play to our strengths. He's started the last 3 games and we've been rubbish going forward in all three. Baffling.
 
akash02 said:
We should play to our strengths. He's started the last 3 games and we've been rubbish going forward in all three. Baffling.
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It's not even like Fellaini has been good in any of these, either. A few average performances, none of which have been anywhere near as good as Ander's best.
 
DWelbz19 said:
It's not even like Fellaini has been good in any of these, either. A few average performances, none of which have been anywhere near as good as Ander's best.
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Exactly and even worse, we're playing our 3rd highest scorer of all time deeper to accomadate him in the team :rolleyes:
 
akash02 said:
We should play to our strengths. He's started the last 3 games and we've been rubbish going forward in all three. Baffling.
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We can't play to our strengths with this many injuries. Fellaini is there to shield the young, inexperienced defence. Herrera is obviously a more exciting attacking option, but playing Fellaini is hardly baffling... It's just a bit disappointing!
 
Kostur said:
:lol:

This thread overall, Jesus fecking Christ, it's almost as if Fellaini picked himself again :lol:.
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No one believes that, though. It's just that they don't really rate him and don't want him to play.
 
bosnian_red said:
Well, it kinda does. Fellaini is a like for like replacement (not as good of course) but has other qualities like his height and strength, which is exactly what Arsenal are weak against. Against Palace you could say we needed height as well because our defence was Blind and McNair, so we really needed that extra height and sstrength to make up for it. Of course, that could all be bollocks but I think it's just the circumstances of Herrera's injury, fellaini's form and the opposition we have played against have given Fellaini the spot for now.
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Arsenal are weak against good, fast, clever attacks. Ander helps us create with his passing and goals, while closing people high up the pitch. Thats what would worry them

Fellaini up front to physically impose himself on Monreal? Thats different. Because he's not there. But that would be another danger for them. It just isnt on the cards aside from set pieces
 
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