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2014-15 Performances

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So now some german newspaper is saying he's off to Bayern. Probably just paper talk but I'm tired of United signing these players who are "destined" to play somewhere else.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The only solution to that "problem" would be targetting players that aren't good enough for other clubs to be interested.
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Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Vidic, Evra, VDS, are part of the top top players and never was this feeling that they would end up playing at other club.

I have the feeling that the Herreras or De Geas are going to put pressure in signing for other clubs once they become top top class.
 
Phil Duck said:
So now some german newspaper is saying he's off to Bayern. Probably just paper talk but I'm tired of United signing these players who are "destined" to play somewhere else.
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Who are these players destined to play somewhere else ?
 
Phil Duck said:
Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Vidic, Evra, VDS, are part of the top top players and never was this feeling that they would end up playing at other club.
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Weren't Evra and Keane heavily linked with moves to other top European clubs during their time here? Evra certainly admitted he was very close to leaving at one point and I'm pretty sure Keane admitted he seriously considered it too. Maybe we didn't feel like they might move away but our feelings were obviously wrong if they were that close to actually doing it.

Plus when Van Der Sar came here I think everyone pretty much knew we were going to be his last club, no? If he'd been 20 it would likely have been quite different.
 
Phil Duck said:
Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Vidic, Evra, VDS, are part of the top top players and never was this feeling that they would end up playing at other club.

I have the feeling that the Herreras or De Geas are going to put pressure in signing for other clubs once they become top top class.
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Scholes and Giggs were extraordinary youth products and British on top so obviously they will feel much more attached to United than other top players.
Keane was heavily linked with Bayern and Juve and admits this in his first book. We had to break our wage structure back then to keep him. For all we know a player can be linked with another club every season but still ends up staying at the club for 10 years. Then there's Zlatan, nothing wrong with either, especially in today's world.
 
united_99 said:
Then there's Zlatan, nothing wrong with either, especially in today's world.
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Going off-topic a little.

I saw Ibrahimovic's goal, which I rate as one of the best I've ever seen:



Then I saw a few interviews, which show that he has a very high opinion of himself.
In fact, I dont think I have ever seen anybody, in my 40 year life, with such a high opinion of themselves.



Take a look at 0m 40s. Most of his interviews are like this.

I'd actually love him to join Man Utd, if only to have LvG cut him down to size.
Apparently, when LvG gets angry, he really hits the fan.
He once shouted so hard at one of his players that his denture fell out.
 
Phil Duck said:
Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Vidic, Evra, VDS, are part of the top top players and never was this feeling that they would end up playing at other club.

I have the feeling that the Herreras or De Geas are going to put pressure in signing for other clubs once they become top top class.
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You have a short memory then, as I recall both these guys being rumoured to be off to other clubs during their time at United. I even think there was some speculation regarding Giggs during the early 2000s. I think you're actually being a bit paranoid. De Gea is the only one of our current lot that I'm a bit worried will end up elsewhere (simply because Real strikes me as the perfect destination for the future Spanish #1.) And for all we know, Real fans may well be feeling the same thing about Bale; that it's only a matter of time before he returns to England.
 
united_99 said:
Scholes and Giggs were extraordinary youth products and British on top so obviously they will feel much more attached to United than other top players.
Keane was heavily linked with Bayern and Juve and admits this in his first book. We had to break our wage structure back then to keep him. For all we know a player can be linked with another club every season but still ends up staying at the club for 10 years. Then there's Zlatan, nothing wrong with either, especially in today's world.
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As well, the nature of media nowadays (twitter rumours, shit sites like givemefootball and the online tabloids,) means that we're subject to every rumour that comes up, no matter whether it comes from an agent or some gimp sitting behind his computer. I remember some lazy rumours flying around after Scholes had his brief falling out with Fergie back in 2001. Imagine the twitter uproar if that had happened during present times.
 
sunama said:
Going off-topic a little.

I saw Ibrahimovic's goal, which I rate as one of the best I've ever seen:



Then I saw a few interviews, which show that he has a very high opinion of himself.
In fact, I dont think I have ever seen anybody, in my 40 year life, with such a high opinion of themselves.



Take a look at 0m 40s. Most of his interviews are like this.

I'd actually love him to join Man Utd, if only to have LvG cut him down to size.
Apparently, when LvG gets angry, he really hits the fan.
He once shouted so hard at one of his players that his denture fell out.
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Aye, in my eyes he could have been the next Cantona.
 
The Herrera rumours don't seem to stem from him wanting away or clubs wanting him though, they seem to stem from this belief the media have the LvG doesn't rate him.
 
Is it right that he played in a friendly against Blackpool on Tuesday. That sounds like LvG wants to make sure he is match fit to me. He's such a nice lad, I doubt he is angling for a move. We need to be building this sqaud up not chopping and changing the personel all the time. There will be other players gone before him.
 
I highly doubt he's angling for a move. In fact, he's the only foreign player at the club who I believe holds us in as much esteem as the English lads. Possibly Rafael and Valencia do too.

Everyone else is here for the money or the lack of opportunities elsewhere, imo.
 
Phil Duck said:
Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Ryan Giggs, Vidic, Evra, VDS, are part of the top top players and never was this feeling that they would end up playing at other club.

I have the feeling that the Herreras or De Geas are going to put pressure in signing for other clubs once they become top top class.
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There's only one of each.
 
Dante said:
I highly doubt he's angling for a move. In fact, he's the only foreign player at the club who I believe holds us in as much esteem as the English lads. Possibly Rafael and Valencia do too.

Everyone else is here for the money or the lack of opportunities elsewhere, imo.
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Exactly, didn't he even consider a pay cut to join you guys.

I think Herrera is one of the few who genuinely wants to be at United.
 
I think he's been fit for a while, and LVG's just been choosing Fellaini over him recently. He's been on the bench, after all.
 
Brightonian said:
I think he's been fit for a while, and LVG's just been choosing Fellaini over him recently. He's been on the bench, after all.
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Even if he is on the bench, unless there are more injuries or someone is stupid enough to get themselves sent off, he should at least get some game time. He has been unfortunate that the injuries have happened to defenders, so he cannot be used as a replacement. Then the sending offs have been defenders as well. LvG seems to spend most of his press conferences talking about who isn't available rather than who is.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Even if he is on the bench, unless there are more injuries or someone is stupid enough to get themselves sent off, he should at least get some game time. He has been unfortunate that the injuries have happened to defenders, so he cannot be used as a replacement. Then the sending offs have been defenders as well. LvG seems to spend most of his press conferences talking about who isn't available rather than who is.
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Oh I completely agree that he should be playing. Just pointing out that it looks like LVG actually dropped him, not that he was injured.
 
Brightonian said:
Oh I completely agree that he should be playing. Just pointing out that it looks like LVG actually dropped him, not that he was injured.
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Its probably been a mix of both really. Not that Herrera played poorly apart from when he was blatantly injured, but fellaini just took his chance vs Chelsea and it would be harsh to drop him. Against palace I think Herrera would've played, but we needed height in there because of blind and McNair being pur centerbacm partnershipm
 
Brightonian said:
Oh I completely agree that he should be playing. Just pointing out that it looks like LVG actually dropped him, not that he was injured.
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I think he thought Fellaini a better option against the oppostion, City and Chelsea. He was to an extent, but due to other deficiencies at the back it has curtailed our offensive side. Herrera will get his chances, you need all sorts of types and options depending on the game. If we didn't have so many injuries, our squad would be great.
 
bosnian_red said:
Its probably been a mix of both really. Not that Herrera played poorly apart from when he was blatantly injured, but fellaini just took his chance vs Chelsea and it would be harsh to drop him. Against palace I think Herrera would've played, but we needed height in there because of blind and McNair being pur centerbacm partnershipm
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Yeah, I suppose he's just been the victim of circumstances. I hope that stops now though. I realise Fellaini's proven that he can be useful in certain situations and matches, but he shouldn't be a regular starter ahead of Herrera in my opinion.
 
Seeing his name in the starting line-up on Saturday next to Carrick would boost my optimism for the game.
 
Fellaini has been selected because LVG has been trying to find that balance defensively and he has provided that whereas Herrera was perhaps found wanting in some games.

Be happy to see him an Fellaini start - both bring varying attributes that would help us and perhaps more importantly both are likely to give that extra bite in CM as Herrera is not shy about putting himself about and Fellaini will just swallow up little Jack up.
 
I don't think there is any doubt that Van Gaal rates him. When he got injured and fractured a rib, Van Gaal rushed him back and had him play in a protective corset, instead of just playing another midfielder from the start. Unfortunately for Herrera, he didn't play well whilst injured understandably, and Fellaini really stepped up when he finally did come into the side for him.
 
I'd like to see a midfield trio of Fellaini, Carrick and Herrera on Saturday. Think there'd be a nice balance.
 
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