Amorim: «We are maybe the worst team in Man United history»

Mibabalou said:
I posted this when we were down to Southampton -

Team is awful. There is no light at the end of the tunnel at this point, maybe we can get lucky draw in Europa. At this point top half finish would be a miracle. Were 2.5 seasons from legit chance of CL football. I think this is the lowest point I can remember as a supporter for 20 years.
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There is no set number on something like that.

Last season Forest were almost relegated. This season they may get CL football. We may be back next year or we never really be back.
 
I would encourage all United fans to go back and re-watch the game at West Ham at the end of October. We lost, it was Ten Hag's last match in charge. We weren't great but it was actually a very decent performance and we were unlucky to lose. Our chance creation was really good, our finishing was poor, and we controlled large sections of the game both in and out of possession.

It wasn't good enough and Ten Hag hadn't been getting results for more than a year so he was sacked fair enough. But we weren't "the worst team in the history of Manchester United" when he left. We're there now because of how much worse we've got since then.

There are good arguments for the fact that this is just the pain we have to go through to become an Amorim team and for people who think like that, I think they have a totally reasonable case. I also really hope they're right. But on the basis that all I'm seeing is a team regressing fast (aside from a few decent, but often quite desperate performances against the big boys) I can't really think that's the case.

If Ten Hag had stayed I think his United team finishes 6th-8th and maybe wins the Europa League. Clearly not good enough for where United want to be. But 3 months later his successor has us looking over our shoulder at the relegation spots and using "worst in history" language. Fair enough, but we weren't the worst in history when you arrived, Ruben. You've made us that.
 
Imagine thinking that he shouldnt say stuff like this because of fear of players potentially downing tools, hahaha like there is a difference
 
stubie said:
He knows the players he has are absolutely garbage and won’t progress. Why give Maguire an extension when he has been underperforming baffles me.

I also believe he’s way out of his depth but I admire his honesty

I don’t believe Radcliffe has the best intentions on the playing side to help fix this.

The club is rotten to the core and has been for a long time
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Given that he singled Maguire out for his attitude this week, I don’t think he had him in mind.
 
It’s brutally honest and difficult to argue against, certainly in the modern era of the club. I was a kid in 1988-1990 when we were abysmal. I think we went ten without a win at one stage there. They would give this mob a run for their money.
 
I dont think its the right thing to say at all, but I suppose it'll help with his argument towards needing to spend in Jan to the board.
 
Church o Choccy said:
I would encourage all United fans to go back and re-watch the game at West Ham at the end of October. We lost, it was Ten Hag's last match in charge. We weren't great but it was actually a very decent performance and we were unlucky to lose. Our chance creation was really good, our finishing was poor, and we controlled large sections of the game both in and out of possession.

It wasn't good enough and Ten Hag hadn't been getting results for more than a year so he was sacked fair enough. But we weren't "the worst team in the history of Manchester United" when he left. We're there now because of how much worse we've got since then.

There are good arguments for the fact that this is just the pain we have to go through to become an Amorim team and for people who think like that, I think they have a totally reasonable case. I also really hope they're right. But on the basis that all I'm seeing is a team regressing fast (aside from a few decent, but often quite desperate performances against the big boys) I can't really think that's the case.

If Ten Hag had stayed I think his United team finishes 6th-8th and maybe wins the Europa League. Clearly not good enough for where United want to be. But 3 months later his successor has us looking over our shoulder at the relegation spots and using "worst in history" language. Fair enough, but we weren't the worst in history when you arrived, Ruben. You've made us that.
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We were in fecking 13th when Ten Hag was sacked and he played a huge part in assembling this absolute train-wreck of a squad.

I'm so sick of people just pretending that things were actually alright under Ten Hag and we only just recently got this bad. Our points per game this season under Ten Hag was 1.2 and under Amorim it's been 1.15. Both are atrocious but the key difference is that Ten Hag pissed away the GDP of a small country to get us to that point whereas Amorim has yet to bring in anyone.
 
Another great interview. Throwing himself and the club under the bus there’s nowhere to hide

We need to get to the summer
 
KD6-3.7 said:
He's right. There's honestly maybe 2-3 players I'm fine with staying the rest need to be gone but it won't happen unfortunately.

The open heart surgery that Ragnick said the club needed technically happened but it was just a gigantic failure.
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Yep, it was carried out by the same folks that made the surgery necessary in the first place - the numpties appointed by the Glazers who bought the club with money they didn't have and who only cared to bleed it for the dividends.

What's that saying - A fool can throw a stone in a pond that a hundred wise men can not get out.

United are the stone, and we are truly deep and lost in the pond.
 
He was forced to come mid-season, I doubt they’ll sack him in all honesty
 
Amorim said:
We need to survive this moment. I know that
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Survive until when? Summer? The team gets worse every summer with inadequate signings, so he shouldn’t count on that too much.

Church o Choccy said:
I would encourage all United fans to go back and re-watch the game at West Ham at the end of October. We lost, it was Ten Hag's last match in charge. We weren't great but it was actually a very decent performance and we were unlucky to lose. Our chance creation was really good, our finishing was poor, and we controlled large sections of the game both in and out of possession.
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I agree with this completely. Our problem with Ten Hag this season was a lack of finishing because our forwards are poor. We were at the top in big chances missed. Now, we hardly threaten the goal because we play with five defenders.
 
Church o Choccy said:
I would encourage all United fans to go back and re-watch the game at West Ham at the end of October. We lost, it was Ten Hag's last match in charge. We weren't great but it was actually a very decent performance and we were unlucky to lose. Our chance creation was really good, our finishing was poor, and we controlled large sections of the game both in and out of possession.

It wasn't good enough and Ten Hag hadn't been getting results for more than a year so he was sacked fair enough. But we weren't "the worst team in the history of Manchester United" when he left. We're there now because of how much worse we've got since then.

There are good arguments for the fact that this is just the pain we have to go through to become an Amorim team and for people who think like that, I think they have a totally reasonable case. I also really hope they're right. But on the basis that all I'm seeing is a team regressing fast (aside from a few decent, but often quite desperate performances against the big boys) I can't really think that's the case.

If Ten Hag had stayed I think his United team finishes 6th-8th and maybe wins the Europa League. Clearly not good enough for where United want to be. But 3 months later his successor has us looking over our shoulder at the relegation spots and using "worst in history" language. Fair enough, but we weren't the worst in history when you arrived, Ruben. You've made us that.
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Love to know how you've come to this make believe conclusion.
 
It's his way of saying he has a team of rubbish players but he knows he can't just openly saying that as he will lose all faith of the players to fight, making his position untenable .

I think with all the training comments etc he's been saying, you know deep down his itching to say "listen, our players are rubbish and they need to be moved on. We'll see progress then"
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
We did the open heart surgery and made a mess of it
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We took an easyJet flight somewhere thinking we could get the op and some summer sun. Went with the wrong fella. Woke up without a kidney and are now hoping that someone else can fix it.
 
Church o Choccy said:
I would encourage all United fans to go back and re-watch the game at West Ham at the end of October. We lost, it was Ten Hag's last match in charge. We weren't great but it was actually a very decent performance and we were unlucky to lose. Our chance creation was really good, our finishing was poor, and we controlled large sections of the game both in and out of possession.

It wasn't good enough and Ten Hag hadn't been getting results for more than a year so he was sacked fair enough. But we weren't "the worst team in the history of Manchester United" when he left. We're there now because of how much worse we've got since then.

There are good arguments for the fact that this is just the pain we have to go through to become an Amorim team and for people who think like that, I think they have a totally reasonable case. I also really hope they're right. But on the basis that all I'm seeing is a team regressing fast (aside from a few decent, but often quite desperate performances against the big boys) I can't really think that's the case.

If Ten Hag had stayed I think his United team finishes 6th-8th and maybe wins the Europa League. Clearly not good enough for where United want to be. But 3 months later his successor has us looking over our shoulder at the relegation spots and using "worst in history" language. Fair enough, but we weren't the worst in history when you arrived, Ruben. You've made us that.
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I have to agree with that. We are not the worst United team in history. We are much better than this. Much better.
 
Not in history, but we have been a garbage football team since Summer 2021 basically. We grinded out some good results for a few months in Ten Hag's first season which got us to 3rd, but we've played garbage football and have played like a mid-table side for 3.5 years now. It is what we are and it's not going to be easy to get out of this.
 
That is the truth. Last season when we finished 8th, our xPts had us on 15th. That should have been an alarming wake up call. Instead, the idiots at Ineos continued with ETH, and kept most of the players and the rest that followed is not a surprise.
 
R'hllor said:
Oh, lets not wash him completely, he is still picking first XI and subs
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Yes, out of a very poorly assembled squad that the last guy wasted hundreds of millions of pounds putting together. It's an atrocious squad.
 
We are the worst man Utd I have ever seen, and given how much has been spent it's utterly criminal.

That said, this being the worst man Utd team ever? Our best 11 is -still- better than a lot of the sides above us best 11's, and it's Amorim's job to fix it, or he becomes the worst Man Utd manager in Man Utd's history, too.
 
Of course he's right but he also shouldn't be saying this. Already losing the dressing room and digging his grave.
 
Paul778 said:
To be honest, we had Greenwood, Martial and Rashford all looking good 4 years ago. Greenwood particularly has screwed us. The club didn't search for other options because he was thought of so highly.
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Not that long ago we had a front 4 of Ronaldo, Greenwood, Martial and Cavani. With Sancho and Rashford as wide forwards backing them up.

5 have been allowed to leave, (all 6 if Rashford goes) and we haven’t really replaced them other than signing Hojlund, who’s essentially been a one man strike force since the age of 20.
 
Talent wise it's not the worst, but it's probably the worst group of losers and mentally weak cowards in the history of the club. I struggle to refer to it as a team, as they don't even work well together and bring the best out of each other.

If Rangnick was a petty man he'd be well within his rights to post a smug message on social media saying I told you so. Club is rotten and the players reflect the shite culture that has come from the top
 
stubie said:
He knows the players he has are absolutely garbage and won’t progress. Why give Maguire an extension when he has been underperforming baffles me.

I also believe he’s way out of his depth but I admire his honesty

I don’t believe Radcliffe has the best intentions on the playing side to help fix this.

The club is rotten to the core and has been for a long time
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A wild take to single out Maguire, one a few who can hold his head high.
 
Superunknown said:
Yes, out of a very poorly assembled squad that the last guy wasted hundreds of millions of pounds putting together. It's an atrocious squad.
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Yes but he still making a decision to pick out of that shit pool, maybe look somewhere else, there are 100% players out there that are natural for X position but lower quality and wages, thats way better that to force someone clueless overpaid not really interested into giving his all.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
We aren't a team. Just a very random squad that doesn't suit any formation. As @Judas said it only suits chaos football that only works for short term success, cups in other words, but that is it.
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Yeah pretty much. It’s the result of years of mismanagement.
 
If he could rewind the clock I wonder if he'd have come here, or if he was well aware of the situation beforehand.

I just feel bad for him, he's actually trying to do it right, but has the worst squad since Fergie left, and is likely to be least backed United manager early on since then aswell.
 
Anybody can see it. Aside from Amad, is there anything exceptional about the club? I thought maybe Garnacho and Mainoo could get there but they’ve both fallen way off. This is the result of over a decade of floundering post-Ferguson.
 
R'hllor said:
Oh, lets not wash him completely, he is still picking first XI and subs
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Who should he be picking? He inherited all of those players. They’re all crap bought by Ten Hag, Ole and Mouriniho. Layered levels of flops.
 
I believe this team is capable of getting relegated and if Wolves and Ipswich find some form, it'll happen. He's right. This is the worst United team ever assembled when you consider the cost as well.
 
It's the inability to compete on a one to one level that really rankles, if we were going toe to toe in the majority of games, but just getting edged out by the odd goal, as disappointing as that would be, there'd be something to hang on to. I don't know what to think or how to feel at this point, i'm not angry, just upset and fearful of where this could lead. Some are saying Amorim is out of his depth, dunno, show me an elite coach who could turn this around in a matter of weeks mid season, Pep Guardiola? Do me a favour. Nothing happening on the pitch, nothing happening in the boardroom, our problems have never seemed so unsolvable.
 
uncomfortable listening to him with a trembling voice in parts. There must be one hell of a masterplan in place by above
 
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