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Ramshock said:
what evidence? its all ones and zeros with no paper trail thats the feckin point.
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All ones and zeros with no paper trail? I'm fairly certain that's not how computers work. Not to mention that if Anon really stopped Karl Rove committing election fraud they would surely still be able to prove that they did something.
 
niMic said:
All ones and zeros with no paper trail? I'm fairly certain that's not how computers work. Not to mention that if Anon really stopped Karl Rove committing election fraud they would surely still be able to prove that they did something.
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if they show the proof, would Rove not find a way round it?

His reaction...shock more like and Romney's reluctance to concede long after Ohio was called was proof something was up.
 
Whenever you see the caption "Conservative Commentator" (or democrat) on a TV talking head, you might just as well put "Some Bloke".
 
Grinner said:
Whenever you see the caption "Conservative Commentator" (or democrat) on a TV talking head, you might just as well put "Some Bloke".
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That's not just America or political representatives, the majority of people quoted by the news (both broadcast and print) tend to be "some bloke" because quoting some nonsense from a media savvy bell end makes it easier to maintain a narrative.
 
Have to love living in New York State. Since 2000 here is a list of 26 State lawmakers who have gotten into a little bit of ethical trouble.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com...060/New-York-s-troubled-politicians-roll-call

Here is the latest bunch

http://www.democratandchronicle.com...060/New-York-s-troubled-politicians-roll-call

Here is how the story starts

Three of the last five state Senate majority leaders have been indicted or are in jail for corruption. At least 26 state lawmakers have dealt with ethical problems or criminal charges since 2000
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She's good looking. And that TPM photo won't help him when the missus see's it.

Also, heard a quote from her today about being a single mom......

Maybe he was here in CA looking for the next Mrs Barak Obama.
 
I always say this about the US: its full of censorship -- either by the politically corrects or the religious right. You cant say anything anymore without fecking offending anyone.

He praised for her he capabilities and toughness and then , oh btw... sort of comment.
 
Would Hillary Clinton have a decent chance of winning the DEM nomination sin the next election?
 
Giggzinho said:
:wenger: but they don't care..
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Sadly, they don't

It's terrible what happened in Boston today yet halfway around the globe, 55 people were killed in bombs in Iraq with more than 200 injured, countless killed in Syria, Palestinians live in daily suffering and the list goes on. The loss of American life seems to matter more than those in countries far from their living rooms despite their government being directly responsible

WeasteDevil said:
There is an old adage.... you reap what you sow.
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And pretty much how I've seen senseless violence like this
 
FCBarca said:
Sadly, they don't

It's terrible what happened in Boston today yet halfway around the globe, 55 people were killed in bombs in Iraq with more than 200 injured, countless killed in Syria, Palestinians live in daily suffering and the list goes on. The loss of American life seems to matter more than those in countries far from their living rooms despite their government being directly responsible



And pretty much how I've seen senseless violence like this
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So you're surprised that in America the loss of American life by a once in a decade type bombing at a marathon on American soil gets more coverage on American tv? Most of the other things you list there get coverage here everyday as well when things happen.

I'm sure the Madrid bombings and England bombing coverage was similar in their nations when they happened and I'd also wager all the things you listed happened in those countries during that time as well.

Veiled American bashing. I don't care, but that's what it is.
 
Cali Red said:
So you're surprised that in America the loss of American life by a once in a decade type bombing at a marathon on American soil gets more coverage on American tv?
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Not sure where you concluded surprise on my part, it was predictable. There was no surprise on my part.


Cali Red said:
Most of the other things you list there get coverage here everyday as well when things happen.
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Vigils and wall to wall coverage on television when innocent children are mamed, tortured or killed at the hands of US military forces? Maybe on a CSPAN channel somewhere in the 1000 range of the cable dial but don't pretend that suffering abroad, at the hands of the US military, gets much coverage at all



Cali Red said:
I'm sure the Madrid bombings and England bombing coverage was similar in their nations when they happened and I'd also wager all the things you listed happened in those countries during that time as well.
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Leave the US and yes, there is increased and more balanced coverage of world events - particularly those involving US military, even in the UK

Honesty much less balanced journalism is absent in the US. In what increasingly appears to be an act of domestic terrorism, news outlets spend a good deal of time stoking the Islamophobia flames once again


Cali Red said:
Veiled American bashing. I don't care, but that's what it is.
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Dishonesty is pervasive from the government & media down to citizens who are incapable of any honest reflection on what their representatives are up to.

So, I am also not surprised you don't care, the lack of caring is endemic back in my old country.

Far too much patting one's self on the back about the positives of America while summarily disregarding if not blissfully ignoring the massive & costly negatives. Care little about what happens to others around the world yet up in arms when a fraction of that tragedy hits home and it's suddenly an atrocious crime.

Welcome to the real world, violence is not merely a video game or clip on the evening news. Real lives suffer or result in needless loss of life and that cycle continues everyday

Even Greenwald concurs
 
Sure but the reason why it's major news is that it doesn't happen very often on American soil. Within their own borders it is a largely peaceful place, an attack like this is such an anomaly it is guaranteed to dominate the airwaves.
 
Red Dreams said:
she looks a lock for it...but I have a feeling her age will prevent her being the nominee. think she has missed her chance.
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I think that if she is elected she would be the 2nd oldest person to be inaugurated, behind only Reagan by a couple of hundred days if I remember right.

For voters who make age an issue, that will be a problem, for those who don't it will not. Though as usual whether the age of a candidate matters to a voter will mostly depend on the voters and the candidates party affiliation.
 
The febrile security mood in Washington rose another notch on Tuesday as it emerged that an envelope sent to Senate offices had tested positive for a poison thought to be ricin.

The envelope was addressed to the offices of Senator Roger Wicker, a Republican from Mississippi, but is understood to have been intercepted before reaching Capitol Hill.

Since anthrax attacks in the post caused Congress to shut down in 2001, all mail has been diverted to an off-site facility for testing before delivery.

CNN reported that the envelope had tested positive in a first routine test, before being retested two more times, each time coming up positive. The package was then sent to a Maryland lab for further testing, according to the law enforcement source. CNN said Wicker was now being given extra security protection.

Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, said: "This time the system worked … it tested positive but the letter did not reach Senator Wicker's office."

He said there was no evidence that the ricin incident was linked to the attack in Boston.

"Ricin is very targeted, almost assassin-like, it does not cause mass casualties so would be inconsistent with the terrorist philosophy," McCaul told CNN. "A lot of members of Congress have threats and this is one to be taken seriously. Roger is a very nice guy and I don't know why anyone would want to do this to him."

The website Politico reported that lawmakers had been told that the letter sent to Wicker's office came from an individual who frequently writes to politicians and have been told what to look for if there are more letters containing the toxic substance.

Neither US Capitol police nor Wicker's office could be reached for comment.

Senate speaker Harry Reid also confirmed the incident separately and Senator Mary Landrieu said lawmakers were informed of the fact at a closed-door briefing about the Boston Marathon bombings.

The incident will rekindle painful memories in Washington of when two Democrat senators were targeted with envelopes containing anthrax spores in a wave of attacks across the US shortly after the September 11 terrorist attacks. In total, five people were killed by the anthrax attacks and Congress was shut for weeks to allow offices to be decontaminated.

This time, the envelope testing positive for ricin follows another terrorist attack and comes as much of Washington is in a heightened state of alert following the Boston bombings. Tourists are still prevented from approaching the White House and there is a heavy security presence across the city.

Nevertheless, previous suspected ricin tests have turned out to be false alarms as a similar test response can be caused by paper byproducts, not the deadly poison. Non-toxic byproducts of the castor bean plant – the raw material for ricin – are sometimes used in making paper.

A report for prepared for Congress in 2010 warned of the potential use of ricin for terrorist attacks.

"Persons exposed to ricin exhibit different symptoms depending on the route of exposure," it said. "Ingestion of ricin causes nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, gastric haemorrhaging and shock. With a sufficient dose, death occurs within three to five days. Injection of ricin produces severe internal bleeding and tissue death, which can result in the collapse of major organ systems. Death often follows such a collapse."
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Weird, wonder why he specifically would have been targeted.
 
Obama has received a letter containing a suspicious substance according to the Secret Service.

Edit: One of the Senate office buildings is being evacuated because of similar concerns.
 
The person who allegedly sent the letters containing ricin has been arrested.
 
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