[JohnnyLaw]

Was pleasently surprised by his cameo. I don’t think ETH is as married to Antony as some think, hopefully now we’ll see less of him.

Hopefully we’ll bring in one of Olise or Bakayoko in the summer.

 

[STYLOISRED]

I see amad as Bruno's eventual replacement

He is going to have a Bernardo Silva type trajectory- playing both winger and attacking midfielder at a high level.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

He is going to have a Bernardo Silva type trajectory- playing both winger and attacking midfielder at a high level.

We have Mainoo the new Jude Bellingham, Garnacho the new Ronaldo and Amad the new Bernardo Silva.

Great news, I'm sure nobody will make threads to replace either of them a year from now.

 

[sglowrider]

He is going to have a Bernardo Silva type trajectory- playing both winger and attacking midfielder at a high level.

Good call.

 

[Bwuk]

I could see him and Garnacho being our Saka/Martinelli.

Amad should be starting going forward.

 

[Mingus]

I've watched every game of his for us - both at youth and senior level - and nearly every game of his at Sunderland.

You're going to be very disappointed. Dribbling is a weakness of his.

Haha. You're not serious.

 

[iHicksy]

I've watched every game of his for us - both at youth and senior level - and nearly every game of his at Sunderland.

You're going to be very disappointed. Dribbling is a weakness of his.

You're either on meth or you're just a liar and have not watched him at all.

Dribbling is literally one of his strongest assets. His ability to carry the ball forward has been one of his traits since before we signed him.

As the following poster says.

Haha. You're not serious.

 

[Yagami]

Ah, the ol' YouTube trick. Reminds me of last summer where everyone said I was wrong for saying the same thing about Antony because YouTube videos.

@iHicksy & @Mingus , that video, which I've already watched, even highlights his limited dribbling. He rarely actually gets fully past his man, and, when he does, the opposition player catches back up to him due to Amad being quite slow.

I like Amad. He has a lot of strengths as a footballer. Dribbling past opposition players isn't one of them.

 

[The holy trinity 68]

Ah, the ol' YouTube trick. Reminds me of last summer where everyone said I was wrong for saying the same thing about Antony because YouTube videos.

@iHicksy & @Mingus , that video, which I've already watched, even highlights his limited dribbling. He rarely actually gets fully past his man, and, when he does, the opposition player catches back up to him due to Amad being quite slow.

I like Amad. He has a lot of strengths as a footballer. Dribbling past opposition players isn't one of them.

Dribbling and dribbling past the opposition are two different things. You never said dribbling past opposition players is a weakness of his, you just said dribbling.

 

[DJ_21]

Give this lad a run at RW from now on.

 

[Yagami]

Dribbling and dribbling past the opposition are two different things. You never said dribbling past opposition players is a weakness of his, you just said dribbling.

Dribbling is just about beating players for me. He isn't good at that.

Keeping the ball under pressure, though? Yes, I think he's good at that. Hopefully, at a higher level, he will still be as good as that here as he was at Sunderland and the few times he played for the u21s.

 

[iHicksy]

Ah, the ol' YouTube trick. Reminds me of last summer where everyone said I was wrong for saying the same thing about Antony because YouTube videos.

@iHicksy & @Mingus , that video, which I've already watched, even highlights his limited dribbling. He rarely actually gets fully past his man, and, when he does, the opposition player catches back up to him due to Amad being quite slow.

I like Amad. He has a lot of strengths as a footballer. Dribbling past opposition players isn't one of them.

Dribbling and dribbling past the opposition are two different things. You never said dribbling past opposition players is a weakness of his, you just said dribbling.

Also, i've followed him since before we signed him - I've never watched a youtube video of him until today.

You should perhaps understand the term dribbling then - it doesn't mean going past players - it means carrying the ball and not letting opponents get it off you. Which he does exceptionally well. Dribbling past players - is very different.

 

[Sancho99]

Dribbling certainly isn't a weakness of his. He's not the type to beat players for fun but he's very effective at putting players off balance with a drop of the shoulder and changing his balance because he's so agile.

He was ranked 6th best at dribbling in the championship last season of those that played a minimum of 30 games with an average of 1.9 dribbles out of 4.3 dribbles per game, so just under 50% completion rate which is about the average success rate for the best dribblers in the league.

 

[Yagami]

Also, i've followed him since before we signed him - I've never watched a youtube video of him until today.

You should perhaps understand the term dribbling then - it doesn't mean going past players - it means carrying the ball and not letting opponents get it off you. Which he does exceptionally well. Dribbling past players - is very different.

Dribbling has always meant going past players to me, and always will. Carrying the ball in general without actually ever beating an opposition player is just carrying the ball. He's good at that but still relies on having other technical players around him to give and go. It was very evident last season when he played without Patrick Roberts which, as a result, caused him to be more isolated in possession, that he struggled, and vice versa. Roberts this season is a shadow of his last seasons form without Amad linking with him. Players like them thrive off linking up with similar players rather than through their own individual play.

You could already see it yesterday. He wanted some interplays to give and go, but our lack of movement as a team and eagerness to go more direct prevented that from happening. Due to this, he was always one on one with an opposition player, and always had to pass back or sideways because he's not the type to beat his man.

 

[iHicksy]

Dribbling has always meant going past players to me, and always will. Carrying the ball in general without actually ever beating an opposition player is just carrying the ball. He's good at that but still relies on having other technical players around him to give and go. It was very evident last season when he played without Patrick Roberts which, as a result, caused him to be more isolated in possession, that he struggled, and vice versa. Roberts this season is a shadow of his last seasons form without Amad linking with him. Players like them thrive off linking up with similar players rather than through their own individual play.

You could already see it yesterday. He wanted some interplays to give and go, but our lack of movement as a team and eagerness to go more direct prevented that from happening. Due to this, he was always one on one with an opposition player, and always had to pass back or sideways because he's not the type to beat his man.

I mean - this has never been the case. It might be what you think of as dribbling. But it's never meant beating a man.

"Dribbling. Simply put, this phrase means staying on the ball while moving it around the pitch. Players can use different techniques to achieve this, like hiding and revealing. Dribbling is an important skill to develop." : https://learn.englandfootball.com/

" Dribbling can be categorised as tighter, quick, small touches, performed under pressure " - It's using technique and close control to keep the ball away from opponents - including physically shielding. It doesn't mean beating a man.

 

[Mingus]

Dribbling has always meant going past players to me, and always will. Carrying the ball in general without actually ever beating an opposition player is just carrying the ball. He's good at that but still relies on having other technical players around him to give and go. It was very evident last season when he played without Patrick Roberts which, as a result, caused him to be more isolated in possession, that he struggled, and vice versa. Roberts this season is a shadow of his last seasons form without Amad linking with him. Players like them thrive off linking up with similar players rather than through their own individual play.

You could already see it yesterday. He wanted some interplays to give and go, but our lack of movement as a team and eagerness to go more direct prevented that from happening. Due to this, he was always one on one with an opposition player, and always had to pass back or sideways because he's not the type to beat his man.

That's a very narrow definition for the modern day game. If Amad (or anyone for that matter) attempted to take the defender on every time then he wouldn't be picked.

There was, however, an instance yesterday where he dribbled past 2 players but was brought down as he was clear. There are numerous instances of him dribbling past players enough to lay the ball off or shoot.

There are also plenty of instances from last season (as shown on the video) where he received the ball, beat the opponent, and consequently scored. How does this not qualify as dribbling? There are plenty of examples anyway on that video where he performs your definition of dribbling.

Who would you define as a text book dribbler in the PL now? I am keen to understand.

 

[abailey123]

I think the fact Erik in his post match presser came out and praised Amad shows we’ll be seeing a hell of a lot more of him on the right over the next few months

 

[DevTheRed]

In terms of close control dribbling he’s probably the strongest in the squad.. he’s very good at it. Going past players is probably Garnacho at present but him and Amad do compliment each other very well in that department. Would love to see both of them get a run of games with Rasmus up top.

 

[sglowrider]

I think the fact Erik in his post match presser came out and praised Amad shows we’ll be seeing a hell of a lot more of him on the right over the next few months

Not necessary. He has praised Hannibal and then proceeds not to play him the next 3 games.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

We have Mainoo the new Jude Bellingham, Garnacho the new Ronaldo and Amad the new Bernardo Silva.

Great news, I'm sure nobody will make threads to replace either of them a year from now.

Literally no one has mentioned anything about the first two being fecking ronaldo or Jude. As far as the Amad/Silva comparison, it's more a stylistic one not an overall quality one. Stop making lazy strawman arguments.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Literally no one has mentioned anything about the first two being fecking ronaldo or Jude. As far as the Amad/Silva comparison, it's more a stylistic one not an overall quality one. Stop making lazy strawman arguments.

Right... and if you read the post about Amad, the OP compared his trajectory to Bernardo, not style.

It's one of the most irritating thing our fan base does, it really sets our players up for failure. Already seeing posts about Kambwala having a long term defensive partnership with Varane when he may end up being the next Paddy McNair or Blackett. I suppose we've given up on "try Pellestri" because we've realised he's pretty mediocre after hyping him up for nothing, our fan base just doesn't learn.

This

He'll be a better player than Rashford.

Feels like a young Rooney vs young Ronaldo.

Unbelievable debut. Jude Bellingham springs to mind.

He makes Jude Bellingham look like Jordan Henderson.

He should be watching Jude Bellingham. Thats where his ceiling should be.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Right... and if you read the post about Amad, the OP compared his trajectory to Bernardo, not style.

It's one of the most irritating thing our fan base does, it really sets our players up for failure. Already seeing posts about Kambwala having a long term defensive partnership with Varane when he may end up being the next Paddy McNair or Blackett. I suppose we've given up on "try Pellestri" because we've realised he's pretty mediocre after hyping him up for nothing, our fan base just doesn't learn.

Hmm seems I'm mistaken. Well at least you've given me a decent "ignore" list

Seems to be a common theme with footballing fans in general though, a player has a good run of form and instead of them properly rating them we get "Rashford v Mbappe" threads

 

[Haukuraka]

Its always refreshing seeing lads like amad playing again, someone who have everything to prove, and nothing to lose.
Was our most dangerous player after he came on against nottingham, and he has not kickd a football for a long long time before that.. I really hope he starts next game to be honest

 

[DJ_21]

Will he be going to the AFCON? Or have the club stopped him going since he’s just come back from injury?

 

[r0663664]

Amad is very technical, I agree that he is like Silva type player and we need a few of those players. City has a bunch of them and that is why they dominate possession. I need to find another one for left wing because Rashford is not the answer. I like our team 3 years from now, Amad, Mainoo, Garnacho and Hoijund will the the main stay at this club. Hopefully, they improve another 2-3 levels and we will be competing from the championship. We need to find another gem in midfield, a CB and RB and also replace Bruno. Maybe Amad would eventually replace Bruno then I would sign Olise.

 

[OrcaFat]

Also, i've followed him since before we signed him - I've never watched a youtube video of him until today.

You should perhaps understand the term dribbling then - it doesn't mean going past players - it means carrying the ball and not letting opponents get it off you. Which he does exceptionally well. Dribbling past players - is very different.

Anthony is fine at carrying the ball. It’s players that can beat a man that we are short of. I am not rushing to judgment on this lad yet but I am not sure he is going to make the kind of impact that we’ll need if we’re going to step up a level.

He looks tidy and can strike the ball very cleanly. He is smart, has a cool head and it may be that he can create some decent chances. That would be worth a lot but in the modern game every player has to contribute in multiple functions. Does he have the physicality for that? Maybe but we’re yet to see it. Let’s see how he goes.

 

[Dominos]

Gibbs White couldn't run, but kept the ball for 50 meters with Diallo jogging behind him. He won it back in the end, when he got a little help, but he should have done it far earlier. Wasn't a big deal, just an example of how he still lacks a little intensity at times.

Such an odd thing to be critical of. He was trying to win the ball cleanly as he knew if he touched the Forest player in the back or clipped him slightly he'd throw himself to the ground and get a free kick, giving them an opportunity to run the clock down. He waited till he got a clear view of the ball before winning it clean.

Was pleasently surprised by his cameo. I don’t think ETH is as married to Antony as some think, hopefully now we’ll see less of him.

Yes people act like Antony has never been dropped. He's been on the bench loads, it's just we've literally only had 2 other wide players in squad in Rashford/Garnacho, who are both right footed and prefer the left, and both have a lot more bad games than they do good games (Garnacho can be forgiven due to age/inexperience). Rashford has also had injury/illness/suspension this season. So inevitably after a couple of games on the bench Antony has found himself back in.

Obviously Sancho being ousted has left us with such limited options.

Amad has to start from the next game onwards, even if he plays poorly he deserves a run over Antony who has proven long term to be useless to us.

 

[Dominos]

Amad looks like a player who can actually retain possession of a football and make good decisions with it, which makes him stick out like a sore thumb in this team.

His major problem is going to be he's not very individualistic player and not very physically imposing, so he's a player that relies on link up play. You can't link up play in this team as almost every one of his team mates is technically inept in tight spaces and make consistently dumb decisions. If we're just going to feed him the ball on the touch line and ask him to do it all himself, he's not going to unlock his potential.

Still, he should be starting every game over Antony. Way more talent and potential. If he doesn't show us anything by the end of the season, at least then we'll know he's not good enough. No point persisting with Antony who we've already established isn't good enough over a prolonged period.

 

[sglowrider]

His major problem is going to be he's not very individualistic player and not very physically imposing, so he's a player that relies on link up play. You can't link up play in this team as almost every one of his team mates is technically inept in tight spaces and make consistently dumb decisions. If we're just going to feed him the ball on the touch line and ask him to do it all himself, he's not going to unlock his potential.

Still, he should be starting every game over Antony. Way more talent and potential. If he doesn't show us anything by the end of the season, at least then we'll know he's not good enough. No point persisting with Antony who we've already established isn't good enough over a prolonged period.

He had the same issue of not having players to link up with/lack of movement when he first started at Sunderland. It took a month or so before the other players started to understand his play. The question is whether ETH will offer that level of patience.

 

[Bondi77]

Will he be going to the AFCON? Or have the club stopped him going since he’s just come back from injury?

Probably has not been picked because he has not been playing anyway
Ivory Coast are no slouches and I think they have Zaha on one wing but not too sure who is on the other side.

 

[sglowrider]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Llp01OfVkm8?si=k8eJcqpqr1nrlgvN

 

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Probably has not been picked because he has not been playing anyway
Ivory Coast are no slouches and I think they have Zaha on one wing but not too sure who is on the other side.

Zaha hasn't been picked, that makes it even stranger to not pick Amad.

 

[Bondi77]

Zaha hasn't been picked, that makes it even stranger to not pick Amad.

Strange indeed...I just read that Zaha has not played for them for a while so something must have happened there.
Their squad is mainly made up of players playing in the top leagues anyway and are probably higher up the pecking order than Amad fitness wise.

 

[Real Name]

So is he good at dribbling?

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Zaha hasn't been picked, that makes it even stranger to not pick Amad.

Not really. Winger dribblers are not something they lack and I bet they took into account Amad hasn't been fit in a while. They made the right call for him and us IMO

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Probably has not been picked because he has not been playing anyway
Ivory Coast are no slouches and I think they have Zaha on one wing but not too sure who is on the other side.

Outside of Zaha they have Gradel, Pepe, Adingra, Boga, Bamba and Amad to choose from. They are one African nation stacked with wide men who are dribblers.

 

[AnotherLondonManc]

So is he good at dribbling?

Yeah, he's really good at dribbling, but he can't beat his man, but beating his man is not what dribbling means, but actually it does, but he's better than Antony so who cares.

Source: www.redcafe.net

 

[Real Name]

Yeah, he's really good at dribbling, but he can't beat his man, but beating his man is not what dribbling means, but actually it does, but he's better than Antony so who cares.

Source: www.redcafe.net

Just Yagami being Yagami.

 

[andersj]

Probably been mentioned, but according to OPTA he beat his man 2,16 times per 90 min. Success ratio of 42,5 %. More times than any Liverpool-player this season. Higher sucess ratio than Salah and almost identical too Diaz (43,3 %). It is also signiciantly higher than Sake, Martinelli, Foden or Grealish (both number of times he beat an opponnent by dribbling and his successratio).

I guess it will fall in the PL. But it could fall alot and still be better than Salah. If it drops 25 % he will be at a similar level as Foden and Saka.

 

[iHicksy]

Anthony is fine at carrying the ball. It’s players that can beat a man that we are short of. I am not rushing to judgment on this lad yet but I am not sure he is going to make the kind of impact that we’ll need if we’re going to step up a level.

He looks tidy and can strike the ball very cleanly. He is smart, has a cool head and it may be that he can create some decent chances. That would be worth a lot but in the modern game every player has to contribute in multiple functions. Does he have the physicality for that? Maybe but we’re yet to see it. Let’s see how he goes.

I'd actually say his physicality is one of his strongest assets in being able to shield the ball. He had that before he signed for us and playing in the championship has only improved it.

Don't forget this is a kid that sunderland fans were saying was their best ever loan signing in the history of the club.