Walters_19_MuFc
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We need more intelligent, press resistant players in our team. We saw how good Mainoo was today. I believe Amad will make a similar impact.
Can't wait until he's back.
Can't wait until he's back.
I'm with you in terms of your general point. Out of all our options for the RW spot, Amad is the one I most want to see get a run there. I'm just not as confident with him as Mainoo. With Mainoo, I thought he'd take to first team football like a duck to water. With Amad, the potential is definitely there, but he's been here for, what, 4 years now and I'm still not sure about how his general game will impact us at the top level.We need more intelligent, press resistant players in our team. We saw how good Mainoo was today. I believe Amad will make a similar impact.
Can't wait until he's back.
but he's been here for, what, 4 years now and I'm still not sure about how his general game will impact us at the top level.
Originally it was thought just the ankle injury during the pre season against Arsenal. But later on, it looks like he had a knee surgery of some sort.What is his injury exactly? He's been out for a while and there's no info about his return?
He isn’t much faster than Antony, if he is at all. The difference is in the way that he uses the ball after he beats a defender.Just needs to get back and make that RW position his. Has way more pace, game intelligence and technique than Antony. When talking about Antony's strengths fans often mention how well he can keep the ball/resist pressure but Amad on a different level. He can glide past players and can finish. Ten Hag just needs give him a few games to regain his match rhythm and he'll actually make our right flank dangerous again.
Not sure Antony's weakness is not being press resistant, it's just a lack of goal threat/ability to assist. Amad certainly looked like he had more of a goal threat albeit in an inferior league but I wonder if the trade off for Antony's defensive work will be worth it as that part of Amad's game is where I suspect he might be weaker. Both are average pace but one is much more silky, difficult offensively to contain and the other is much more tenacious and dogged.We need more intelligent, press resistant players in our team. We saw how good Mainoo was today. I believe Amad will make a similar impact.
Can't wait until he's back.
Just needs to get back and make that RW position his. Has way more pace, game intelligence and technique than Antony. When talking about Antony's strengths fans often mention how well he can keep the ball/resist pressure but Amad on a different level. He can glide past players and can finish. Ten Hag just needs give him a few games to regain his match rhythm and he'll actually make our right flank dangerous again.
Just needs to get back and make that RW position his. Has way more pace, game intelligence and technique than Antony. When talking about Antony's strengths fans often mention how well he can keep the ball/resist pressure but Amad on a different level. He can glide past players and can finish. Ten Hag just needs give him a few games to regain his match rhythm and he'll actually make our right flank dangerous again.
I think he was basically dropped last game, we just said he had a 'knock', he also didn't start against Luton or Copenhagen. Not sure the press really care about him now allegations have gone, it's also not like Amad wasn't ridiculously expensive when we signed him.That's the $64,000 question.
There is also a political issue by dropping Antony. It's his guy, 3rd most expensive buy for United ever. Can imagine the press having a field day.
I think he was basically dropped last game, we just said he had a 'knock', he also didn't start against Luton or Copenhagen. Not sure the press really care about him now allegations have gone, it's also not like Amad wasn't ridiculously expensive when we signed him.
Playing off-form Antony also gives the press tons of stuff to write about (even more so, I'd argue). We've made the mistake at signing him for that price, there's no good option for continuing with him anymore, there will be criticism either way.There is also a political issue by dropping Antony. It's his guy, 3rd most expensive buy for United ever. Can imagine the press having a field day.
He had a knee surgery didn't he? Not sure exactly what. He's been back in training a few weeks so I'd imagine he's closeWhat is his injury exactly? He's been out for a while and there's no info about his return?
I only remember a temporary rest because he was fatigued. He was largely injury freeWhat was his injury record like at Sunderland? Seems to be getting injury after injury when he’s back here
Unironically, he should still be doing better in this regard. Dan Gore looked very composed and progressive almost at Mainoo levels against Palace- he's miles more press proof than Scott and already looks to have better positional intelligence. Should at least be on the bench and be getting minutes too, given how poor the rest of our midfield has been, and continued in large part to be even against Everton. I still think he's too cautious, despite the 'if you're good enough' line....See the slating of Erik for not playing young players seems to have tapered off!
I only remember a temporary rest because he was fatigued. He was largely injury free
I can only go (optimistically) by what I observed during pre-season - Mainoo and Amad were being given chances with the first team (even though Antony was out at the time), where both unfortunately picked up injuries. This tells me the thinking was he's a core part of the plan going forward (let's not forget Antony usually doesn't last beyond 65-70 mins).It seems many are expecting him to be given a chance to make the RW spot his own. I’d love to share that positivity but it feels like we’re jumping the gun. The noise from within the club on Amad has been nothing like that about Mainoo who it seems is rated super highly by everyone. Unless I’ve missed something. So I’m not sure he’s going to waltz into the team as people are hoping. He’s not fit (do we even know when he’s back?), some players take much longer to regain sharpness and he’s got Rashford and Antony to contend with.
Amad at 18 was £19m and then double in add ons - whilst we don't know the add ons, you have to assume some are very realistic. That's very expensive for a player whose best season so far has been on loan in the Championship and now is 21 years old. If you start to compare everything to a Maguire, Antony, Sancho type signing it warps your sense of reality. We all hope he can kick on and develop to start but we have to wait to see if he does.Amad was 18 million quid plus add-ons versus Antony's £82million plus 5mllion add-ons.
Not even in the same postcode.
I think the season with Sunderland really confirmed Amad to me. Whether he makes it here or not, hey-ho -- but I have few doubts he will have a good career at the top level in Europe.It seems many are expecting him to be given a chance to make the RW spot his own. I’d love to share that positivity but it feels like we’re jumping the gun. The noise from within the club on Amad has been nothing like that about Mainoo who it seems is rated super highly by everyone. Unless I’ve missed something. So I’m not sure he’s going to waltz into the team as people are hoping. He’s not fit (do we even know when he’s back?), some players take much longer to regain sharpness and he’s got Rashford and Antony to contend with.
Should people still be doing that? I mean, they complained when he wasn't doing it, he started doing it more, people stopped complaining. Is there some part of the feedback loop where you get what you want and then still complain about it?See the slating of Erik for not playing young players seems to have tapered off!
Sunderland fans seem to have fallen in love with him. Some are still hopeful of bringing him back in January. I've read stuff like, if he was there this season, they'd all be confident of promotion. I mentioned before how I loved the link up play between Amad and Roberts last year, and I'm reading now about Sunderland fans complaining about Roberts' form this season and many put it down to not having anyone on Amad's level to link up with.
I was definitely impressed with him at Sunderland, too, so it's nice to see that the fans there really took to him. He definitely bulked up that season which helped. The only big thing that, not really worries or concerns me, but, I don't know, causes me to be more hesitant with him, is that he's pretty slow. He's not really the type of wide player who constantly runs at the opposition, but he has shown he can beat people, and when he does - or when he's played through by a teammate - the opposition pretty much always catch back up to him. Plus he's a bit one footed.
Aside from that, I like what I saw last year. I'm really looking forward to seeing him get some game time when he's back. Especially alongside our current kids in Hojlund, Garnacho and Mainoo.
We could be top now. Even now with all these terrible performances we are 6 points off top.We could be in top 4 right now.