Yeah, I was going to pick him as my 6th pick (since I assumed Sjor with Zola and Silva had no need for Le Tiss).
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Yeah, I was going to pick him as my 6th pick (since I assumed Sjor with Zola and Silva had no need for Le Tiss).
Yeah I guessed you weren't going for him but was shocked he didn't go to a couple of teams above.
That's a relief.
Le Tiss is a great pick of course. The only reason he's been left til now is the pool of No.10 types is pretty good. Plus i would reckon he requires a team to be built around him to get the best out of him and he would be considered not the hardest worker, a Riquelme type I guess
He definitely needs players around him who will do the grunt work for him. He's not going to work hard, but its worth it when he can pull off some of his magic.
The Hargreaves picker joins redwine and muppet on the wanklist.
Where is the Robson picker listed?
Changed your mind already or not bright enough to remember the previous list you constructed?
diarm's team will always be there because of them are gooner rivals.
- Marty1968 - 1. Shearer 2. Terry 3. Yaya Toure 4. Bruce 5. Kanchelskis
- Skizzo - 1. Ronaldo 2. Campbell 3. Desailly 4. Gallas 5. Gilberto Silva
- Cal? - 1. Henry 2. Torres 3. Hazard 4. Schneiderlin 5. Bryan Robson
- MJJ/Crappy - 1. Keane 2. Overmars 3. Ginola 4. Ince 5. Stuart Pearce
- Cutch - 1. Giggs 2. Essien 3. McManaman 4. G Neville 5. Barry
- The Stain - 1. Scholes 2. Lampard 3. Drogba 4. Ljungberg 5. A. Young
- berbasloth4 - 1. Vieira 2. Stam 3. RVN 4. King 5. Duff
- Kazi - 1. Suarez 2. McGrath 3. Vidic 4. Klinsmann 5. Waddle
- Tuppet - 1. Ferdinand 2. Cole 3. Xabi Alonso 4. Petit 5. Mata
- coolredwine - 1. Cantona 2. Irwin 3. Adams 4. Hyypia 5. Dennis Wise
- diarm - 1. Bale 2. Beckham 3. Van Persie 4. Pallister 5. Le Tissier
- Gio - 1. Gerrard 2. Makelele 3. Robben 4. Kompany 5. Petrescu
- VivaJanuzaj - 1. Bergkamp 2. Modric 3. Evra 4. Ivanović 5. Hargreaves
- Stobzilla - 1. Rooney 2. Pires 3. Carvalho 4. Beardsley
- bleezy - 1. Fabregas 2. Agüero 3. Sanchez 4. Mascherano
- Šjor Bepo - 1. Zola 2. Carrick 3. David Silva 4. Zabaleta
Definitely Southampton.
Petrescu still made almost 40 appearances for Sheffield Wednesday, prompting the move to Chelsea. No problem with his form there.
Petrescu was a World Cup starter in a good Romania side at the time of moving to Wednesday, I believe, so he's got pedigree even if it's before the Chelsea days.
That's true. Fine player in any case.
Man Utd (21): Ronaldo, Keane, Giggs, Scholes, Stam, RVN, Vidic, Ferdinand, Cantona, Irwin, Beckham, Pallister, Evra, Rooney, Carrick, Bruce, Kanchelskis, Robson, Ince, G Neville, Hargreaves
Arsenal (14): Campbell, Henry, Overmars, Vieira, Cole, Adams, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Pires, Fabregas, Sanchez, Gilberto Silva, Ljungberg, Petit
Chelsea (14): Terry, Desailly, Essien, Hazard, Lampard, Drogba, Makelele, Robben, Ivanović, Carvalho, Zola, Gallas, Mata, Dennis Wise
Liverpool (7): Torres, McManaman, Suarez, Xabi Alonso, Gerrard, Mascherano, Hyypia
City (5): Yaya Toure, Kompany, Aguero, David Silva, Zabaleta
Spurs (5): Ginola, Bale, Modric, King, Klinsmann
Villa (3): McGrath, Barry, A. Young
Newcastle (2): Shearer, Beardsley
Southampton (2): Schneiderlin, Le Tissier
Shef Wed (2): Waddle, Petrescu
Forest (1): Pearce
Blackburn (1): Duff
Chop chop
Arsenal (14): Campbell, Henry, Overmars, Vieira, Cole, Adams, Van Persie, Bergkamp, Pires, Fabregas, Sanchez, Gilberto Silva, Ljungberg, Petit
Chelsea (14): Terry, Desailly, Essien, Hazard, Lampard, Drogba, Makelele, Robben, Ivanović, Carvalho, Zola, Gallas, Mata, Dennis Wise
Liverpool (7): Torres, McManaman, Suarez, Xabi Alonso, Gerrard, Mascherano, Hyypia
City (5): Yaya Toure, Kompany, Aguero, David Silva, Zabaleta
Spurs (5): Ginola, Bale, Modric, King, Klinsmann
Villa (3): McGrath, Barry, A. Young
Newcastle (2): Shearer, Beardsley
Southampton (2): Schneiderlin, Le Tissier
Shef Wed (2): Waddle, Petrescu
Forest (1): Pearce
Blackburn (1): Duff
Chop chop
Cal's always in my heart.
Are you still surprised I picked Henry?
Always will be, considering it was you who picked him. Interesting that you picked Torres as his strike partner though..
Going for the ultra pacy attack for a change...
Just realised the Hargreaves chap also has Bergkamp in his team, to whom my vote was to go by default.
Hargreaves wasn't bad in the PL in his one season of fitness, scored the title winning freekick against Arsenal if I remember correctly.Just realised the Hargreaves chap also has Bergkamp in his team, to whom my vote was to go by default.
Just realised the Hargreaves chap also has Bergkamp in his team, to whom my vote was to go by default.
Who do you rate higher between him and Henry in terms of ability, PL career, importance to Arsenal's success? I've always felt that while Henry was more effective and the better match winner Dennis was the real heart of that team, sublime sublime player.
The shirt above is fairly self explanatory. The thinking there was that he was 26-27 at Wednesday and already been part of a better team than Chelsea at Steau and a fixture for a strong Romania side.
Hargreaves, eh?
Well, it's gonna be interesting to see how that'll fare. There's no peak thing there, as I take it.
Hargreaves was, as mentioned above, “underwhelming” for United – there's zero doubt about that. But he wasn't necessarily poor. In fact, when injury free, particularly in the 2008 run-in, he was bloody good.
Still, you feel it's a bit of a piss-take nevertheless - given how little he actually featured while close to his best.
Well, it's gonna be interesting to see how that'll fare. There's no peak thing there, as I take it.
Hargreaves was, as mentioned above, “underwhelming” for United – there's zero doubt about that. But he wasn't necessarily poor. In fact, when injury free, particularly in the 2008 run-in, he was bloody good.
Still, you feel it's a bit of a piss-take nevertheless - given how little he actually featured while close to his best.
Yeah I didn't see the picture till after and I'd forgotten he played a season for Wednesday. I was wondering if you'd picked him for Bradford or Southampton!
Yeah, that's always the issue with debate and voting based fantasy football. In real life, I used to go to the Dell every chance I had (well, I lived in Southampton so it's not like I took a train there). I endured the likes of ******* ****** stinking up the place knowing full well Le Tissier would be worth the ticket and the afternoon, and he always came up trumps. Great entertainment.
I used to go to the Dell quite often as well back in the 90s.
I suppose it depends on the definition of these peaks. That will be quite relevant, particularly when current players are picked or when a different club is invoked. For example, Petrescu only played for Wednesday for a season, can't @VivaJanuzaj invoke Hargo's best season and not the ones in the physio room alongside ******* ****?
Yeah, I was just about to say that Petrescu right there is interesting in the Hargo/peak context. He only played for Wednesday for a single season. If you only consider 2007-2008 for Hargo, it doesn't look too shabby by comparison: He's got something like 25 starts for United, and almost all of those came in that season. Add sub apperances to this (he's got at least ten of them in 2007-2008), and the quality of his performances in the second half of the season, and you can easily make a case for him – compared, again, to someone like Petrescu.
Of, course, the CL plays a major role in terms of Hargo's impact – and that doesn't count here.
The latter will be interesting too – i.e. will people actually consider league performances solely when assessing a player? It's not natural, you could say – as what you normally consider is how well NN played over a full season, not specifically how he played in league matches.
Where you there for the 6-3? What a game that was! The upside of course being that Southampton was my local team and United my "Europe" team, so I actually enjoyed it. Always loved the underdog (fitting, being Uruguayan) so my main concerns were United's quest for European glory against the dominant continental teams + the Saints annual Harry Houdini act.
Whos turn is it??
I hate that peak years isn't defined just to set a number that we can all judge the games by, rather than having different opinions decide it.
For this draft I feel like a 3 year peak is too strict considering how many players will be picked for having one great season. I wouldn't count it against Hargreaves for example, nor against Petrescu that he just played one season before going to Chelsea.
Then we have all the players who will be picked based on their final season form before moving to a big team.
I was there once. New Years Eve of the 94/95 season and I was 8 years old. We drew 2 all I think.
Most of what I remember is Nicky Butt scoring an absolute scorcher and I missed most of it because I was sat behind a big feck off pillar!
No, I was there for that shirt change game where Soton won 3-1.
I used to go maybe twice a season when I went to school nearby.
I went to school about 15 minutes away from Southampton, so went to a few games there over a few years.
Incredibly tough to pick, and I've never really been able to say it was one or the other with absolute certainty. They fulfilled different roles for us, each devastating in their own right.You could say that Dennis was the catalyst for Thierry and other signings, hence probably the more important player for Arsenal Football Club as a whole. Personally, Dennis got me into football and Arsenal so always will have a soft spot for him. Thierry though, wow...who would want to be a PL defender facing him.
Who do you rate higher between him and Henry in terms of ability, PL career, importance to Arsenal's success? I've always felt that while Henry was more effective and the better match winner Dennis was the real heart of that team, sublime sublime player.
I do believe neither actually realised their full potential at the highest stage, the CL, and perhaps Dennis didn't do it as consistently in the league in the early 2000s for us to claim absolute dominance. That said, your team were no mugs. What an era that was.
My old man worked down there for years although we actually lived up near Salisbury. He used to get tickets from work occasionally but he'd normally try and hold out for Old Trafford games. As such, most of the games I went to as a kid were United - Southampton.
Oh yeah, "the players couldn't see each other"
That was the season before, which made the 6-3 in proper kit even more relevant: it wasn't the kitman's fault after all, it could have been worse
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