All time ODI Draft

Aldo said:
It's good that my opening pair has 66 ODI centuries between them, then. :D
I'll be needing him to build partnerships without slowing the run rate with the big two at the top. Think he's suited fine to that role.
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You do realise I'm not talking centuries.

I'm talking the 40s/50s/60s which help build a strong partnership.

Bell would play the best 20 you'd ever seen and then chip one to mid on.
 
The Red Viper said:
I know I have Tresco but KP was a better batsman IMO.

But, Willis over Gough though. Gough was a better bowler during the death overs with his variety especially those yorkers and blockholes. However, Willis was a much better new ball bowler and generated more pace.
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Trescothick can keep wickets though which is something Pietersen doesn't offer.
 
Aldo said:
He wouldn't be averaging 37 from the top order then.
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Helped greatly by his last few years as an opener.

For your team he can get away with it but if we're just looking at him as a ODI player then IMO he was too one-paced and inflexible in the batting order to be considered a success. There's another ex England batsmen you can file with Bell as very gifted but fair-weather.
 
Aldo said:
:lol: I almost felt sorry for that guy, trying to 'set Sachin up' for a short ball after bowling full lol.

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:lol:

Not even the only time ******* got smashed by Sachin.



Skip to 3:15 for another six with the bonus of Boycott commentating!
 
How does Anderson not get enough credit here ? Just because he was more of a modern player? He was just as effective at the death and could generate terrific swing. What's more, he did it with pace.
 
Ijazz17 said:
How does Anderson not get enough credit here ? Just because he was more of a modern player? He was just as effective at the death and could generate terrific swing. What's more, he did it with pace.
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Not so much though. Flintoff was equally adept with better average and also had more swing variations and good pace.
 
Boycott said:
Helped greatly by his last few years as an opener.

For your team he can get away with it but if we're just looking at him as a ODI player then IMO he was too one-paced and inflexible in the batting order to be considered a success. There's another ex England batsmen you can file with Bell as very gifted but fair-weather.
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We are not looking at him being the one man warrior or something right? Like you said, look at his role in my team, not what you or the England National Team expected him to do. I dont even get what you mean when you say his average was 'helped' by him being an opener? How does being an opener help your average, when you are going to be facing the new ball? I can understand your frustration or whatever you have with him not delivering to your expectations but they ain't remotely the same here. When he comes into bat he will have one of Mark Waugh or Sachin Tendulkar at the other end and he needs to play according to the situation, that's it. Of course he's an 11th round pick, and I'm not claiming him to be a world beater instead but he deserves enough credit to perform the role I've asked him, and that is being a good support cast. He's actually better than that.
 
Ijazz17 said:
How does Anderson not get enough credit here ? Just because he was more of a modern player? He was just as effective at the death and could generate terrific swing. What's more, he did it with pace.
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Average in ODIs. Shockingly bad in the last three WCs. Looks like England have moved on from Anderson in ODIs, they should do the same with young Broad.
 
Samid said:
Average in ODIs. Shockingly bad in the last three WCs. Looks like England have moved on from Anderson in ODIs, they should do the same with young Broad.
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Always thought, Broad's averages suffered because of his formative years when he was a kid. It's actually the other way around, he's actually gotten worse as an ODI bowler over the years.
 
Samid said:
Average in ODIs. Shockingly bad in the last three WCs. Looks like England have moved on from Anderson in ODIs, they should do the same with young Broad.
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29 Ave is hardly average. Better than Walsh, Ambrose and Marshall (The last two wrt SR).
 
Ijazz17 said:
How does Anderson not get enough credit here ? Just because he was more of a modern player? He was just as effective at the death and could generate terrific swing. What's more, he did it with pace.
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Nope, but he has played fewer ODIs than he could have and has generally been not as good as he is in tests. In tests, he is fantastic.
 
I pick Sir Richie Richardson (when and how did he get knighted?!)
 
Aldo said:
I like how bowling against Sachin is a parameter to judge bowlers in this draft. Couldn't give the man a better compliment. :D
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I said it only coz of the whole bunny talk a couple of pages back. :p. But needless to say that Sachin is undoubtedly good though.
 
  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan 6. Guptill 7. Razzaq 8. Kyle Mills 9. Gautam Gambhir 10. Jean-Paul Duminy 11. R. Ashwin
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds 6. Streak 7. M Boucher 8. Umar Gul 9. Younis Khan 10. Larsen 11. Ian Bell
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid 6. G Swann 7. A Jadeja 8. G flower 9. G Marsh 10. C Harris 11. Aaqib Javed
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble 6. Mitchell Johnson 7. R Sarwan 8. Misbah 9. S Styris 10. Stuart Broad 11. Boeta Dippenaar
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Afridi 6. Mahela 7. Botham 8. Harbhajan Singh 9. S. Gavaskar 10. Gooch 11. Richie Richardson
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson 6.H.Cronje 7. J. Anderson 8. Raina 9. Jacob Oram 10.Fannie Di Villiers
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root 6. Angelo Matthews 7. Jos Buttler 8. Gillespie 9.Dhawan 10.Andre Russell
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis 6. Eoin Morgan 7. James Faulkner 8. Du Plessis 9. Carl Rackemann 10. K. Pollard
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs 6. Ross Taylor 7. Q. De Kock 8. Damien Martyn 9. Hogg 10. Agarkar
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith 6. Maxwell 7. D.Gough 8. Fleming 9.Tahir 10. P. Patterson
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Chris Cairns 6. Graeme Smith 7. Clive Lloyd 8. Carl Hooper 9. Brendan Taylor 10. Irfan Pathan
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Pollock 2. Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Vettori 7. Trescothick 8. Srinath 9. Bob Willis 10. Arjuna Ranatunga
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes 7. J. Trott 8. Rod Marsh 9. Tim Southee 10. Dwayne Bravo
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan 7. Chanderpaul 8. Bracken 9. O'Donnel 10. Allan Lamb
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini 7. Nathan Astle 8. Ian Bishop 9. Atapattu 10. M. Samuels
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe 7. Zaheer Khan 8. Morne Morkel 9. Ravinder Jadeja 10. Collingwood
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The Man Himself said:
Nope, but he has played fewer ODIs than he could have and has generally been not as good as he is in tests. In tests, he is fantastic.
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TBH, most english players don't have a very long career. It's like all of them have Wayne Rooney mode built in. In that regards, Anderson did very well, to stay relevant as long as he did. He's played far more matches than Gough and Freddie (Even if the frequency of matches in recent times is greater). And he's genuinely class. I agree with what Aldo said that Gough was very underrated, but I get the feeling Anderson is also not getting his fair share of plaudits either. Deserves to be up there with Gough, especially considering how everyone keeps talking about how much easier it is for the batsmen now.
 
prath92 said:
I said it only coz of the whole bunny talk a couple of pages back. :p. But needless to say that Sachin is undoubtedly good though.
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Oh I must have missed it.
So who are all the bowlers so far who will have absolutely no problem getting Tendulkar out on a duck? :p
 
Ijazz17 said:
TBH, most english players don't have a very long career. It's like all of them have Wayne Rooney mode built in. In that regards, Anderson did very well, to stay relevant as long as he did. He's played far more matches than Gough and Freddie (Even if the frequency of matches in recent times is greater). And he's genuinely class. I agree with what Aldo said that Gough was very underrated, but I get the feeling Anderson is also not getting his fair share of plaudits either. Deserves to be up there with Gough, especially considering how everyone keeps talking about how much easier it is for the batsmen now.
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Anderson is probably the best English bowler in Tests and one of the best in recent times in general. Gough edges him in ODI's though
 
Hope I get to pick quickly. Need to sleep.
 
By the way, it would be tough comparing stats in this, given how the nature of the game has drastically changed.
Specially bowlers - a lot of the 70s/80s ones have low averages and SRs, as the game was typically low scoring then and only a few would be hitting big, in comparison to now when not being able to hit big practically means you will be dropped and of course the highly intense craze of the 90s. Same with economies. 250 was a winning total in the 90s, now it takes you 30 overs to reach that.

How do you attempt to balance that?
 
You know what I realized, Cricket photographers are absolute shit! Couldn't find one decent photo of our next pick.
 
Skills said:
Always thought, Broad's averages suffered because of his formative years when he was a kid. It's actually the other way around, he's actually gotten worse as an ODI bowler over the years.
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Broad hasn't averaged below 30 since 2010, that's indeed bad. Get the feeling both him and Anderson have been retained in ODIs because of test performances.
 
1. McCullum (wk)
2. Gavaskar
3. Gooch
4. Jayawardane
5. Clarke
6. Richardson
7. Botham
8. Afridi
9. Akram
10. Harbhajan
11. Lillee

I think that's a very competitive team. Has a bit of everything: left-arm pace, right-arm pace, off-spin, leg-spin, power-hitters and grinders.
 
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