All time ODI Draft

  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Boom Boom
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Cairns
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Shaun Pollock 2. Lance Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Daniel Vettori
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe
Australia: Harshad; Aldo; VP; Mani; PaulScholes18; The Red Viper
India: Aldo; Skills; NM
West Indies: EAP; Samid
Pakistan: VP; Crappy; Samid
Sri Lanka: PaulScholes18; Skizzo
South Africa: The Red Viper
 
How is Shakir rated here? He's the best all rounder around today according to my AM
 
How is Shakir rated here? He's the best all rounder around today according to my AM

Tough to rate, because absolutely nobody watches Bangladesh. I even skip their matches/series even if they're up against England or India.
 
@Skills tbh, you should not make it easy. There has been cases where a manager who's failed to pay attention to the rule gets penalized as his pick cannot be played. I'd recommend you not remind and let managers keep track.

I'd just hate for someone to feck up a pick I was hoping to sneak through.
 
Shakib al Hasan

I rate him a very very good al-rounder
I was just kidding.

Frankly not saying he's a bad player, but in the context of an all time great draft, I'd put him as a very underwhelming pick. He might end up batting to Ambrose and McGrath and bowling to Sachin and Richards. It'd take a lot of selling to build him in a all time context.

Just my opinion though. Doesn't necessarily be everyone's.
 
I was just kidding.

Frankly not saying he's a bad player, but in the context of an all time great draft, I'd put him as a very underwhelming pick. He might end up batting to Ambrose and McGrath and bowling to Sachin and Richards. It'd take a lot of selling to build him in a all time context.

Just my opinion though. Doesn't necessarily be everyone's.

Genuine question. How is that different from every modern player? They all bowl to worse batsmen than Sachin and Viv, and bat against much worse bowlers than McGrath annd Ambrose.

His average as a bowler is better or as good than most modern "great" bowlers, and his average with the bat is very respectable. Who would be a better all rounder in cricket today?

What makes, say Shane Watson that much better?

An example of modern players getting a raw deal? I'm not sure, since I do that a lot myself. @prath92 rates him a lot
 
Genuine question. How is that different from every modern player? They all bowl to worse batsmen than Sachin and Viv, and bat against much worse bowlers than McGrath annd Ambrose.

His average as a bowler is better or as good than most modern "great" bowlers, and his average with the bat is very respectable. Who would be a better all rounder in cricket today?

What makes, say Shane Watson that much better?

An example of modern players getting a raw deal? I'm not sure, since I do that a lot myself. @prath92 rates him a lot

Obviously I'm far from a cricket expert :lol: but he came across my radar, and everything I read up on about him painted him rather favorably. There's also a thread on here, comparing his early stats to those of other highly rated all rounders of earlier years. He certainly held his own in the comparisons.

Also, as far as I know, he's the only all rounder to be ranked as #1 in tests, ODI and T20.

I'd imagine some modern bias will creep in, as it does into the football drafts with players like Alaba etc, but I certainly strongly considered him instead of McDermott, and trying for him on the way back up. In the end, felt I needed McDermott more than him.

Certainly helps with the restriction though :)
 
Genuine question. How is that different from every modern player? They all bowl to worse batsmen than Sachin and Viv, and bat against much worse bowlers than McGrath annd Ambrose.

Precisely my point. It's a weakness that as Skizzo mentions we've seen before in football drafts. Most modern players will face the same problem when up against an all time great.

Regarding him specifically, I can make arguements otherwise, but it'd not be appropriate for now. I just mentioned that you'd have to sell him more than other established names, but then again I'm sure you'd already considered that.
 
Precisely my point. It's a weakness that as Skizzo mentions we've seen before in football drafts. Most modern players will face the same problem when up against an all time great.

Regarding him specifically, I can make arguements otherwise, but it'd not be appropriate for now. I just mentioned that you'd have to sell him more than other established names, but then again I'm sure you'd already considered that.
How about India, England and Australia invite Bangladesh over for some actual series, so we can see if his and other Bengali players stats are true.
 
Shakib has 6 centuries and 30 fifties playing for Bangladesh often scoring centuries against test nations and also has 206 wickets at an average of 27. That average is better than some actual spinners like vettori and Kumble. In terms of all rounders also, his bowling average is better than Afridi and all. Batting average is about 35 and it's good for someone who comes at 7 or 8. He is also a very good fielder.

He was the best all rounder for a point of time and is a top one even now. I don't think it's easy to achieve that playing with a country that was a minnow (even though they beat India in WC and won a lot of series). And as I said, his stats are comparable to a lot of actual spinners too. A good option to have frankly.
 
:mad:. I sold him and I sold him in the test drafts and not one person bit!
 
:mad:. I sold him and I sold him in the test drafts and not one person bit!

One day is a different game to be fair. In test you can play him around for about 10 overs and then maybe smash him. But in ODI there are only 10 overs reqd for him to bowl. He is more effective than Kumble and vettori and all in ODIs
 
One day is a different game to be fair. In test you can play him around for about 10 overs and then maybe smash him. But in ODI there are only 10 overs reqd for him to bowl. He is more effective than Kumble and vettori and all in ODIs
Then how do you explain him being the only cricketer in the world to hold the No 1 All Rounder ranking for Test, ODI and T20? He has been in the top 5 in tests for over 6 years now.
 
Shakib has 6 centuries and 30 fifties playing for Bangladesh often scoring centuries against test nations and also has 206 wickets at an average of 27. That average is better than some actual spinners like vettori and Kumble. In terms of all rounders also, his bowling average is better than Afridi and all. Batting average is about 35 and it's good for someone who comes at 7 or 8. He is also a very good fielder.
He doesn't play at 7-8. He plays 4-5 if am not mistaken. In tests, he drops a little down like 6-7.
 
  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Boom Boom
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Cairns
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Shaun Pollock 2. Lance Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Daniel Vettori
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe
Lord @crappycraperson
 
Precisely my point. It's a weakness that as Skizzo mentions we've seen before in football drafts. Most modern players will face the same problem when up against an all time great.

Regarding him specifically, I can make arguements otherwise, but it'd not be appropriate for now. I just mentioned that you'd have to sell him more than other established names, but then again I'm sure you'd already considered that.

Nahhh I wasn't going for a "let's get into a match discussion on him" I was genuinely asking. Went for him on Prath's advise.. I've only seen him play probably 5-10 times myself.

:mad:. I sold him and I sold him in the test drafts and not one person bit!

That I know mate. Lett's see how we do
 
Nahhh I wasn't going for a "let's get into a match discussion on him" I was genuinely asking. Went for him on Prath's advise.. I've only seen him play probably 5-10 times myself.



That I know mate. Lett's see how we do
A good pick imo. Maybe a R8 or R9 sort of pick. But handy. I rate him better with the ball though.
 
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  1. Harshad - TMH: 1. AB De Villiers 2. Curtly Ambrose 3. Brett Lee 4. S. Waugh 5. Dilshan
  2. Aldo-Varun: 1. S Tendulkar 2. Shane Bond 3. Yuvraj Singh 4. Mark Waugh 5. Andrew Symonds
  3. Edgar Allan Pillow: 1.Viv Richards 2. R. Hadlee 3. Dean Jones 4. M.Marshall 5. Dravid
  4. RedTiger - LeChuck: 1.A Gilchrist 2. Hashim Amla 3. J Miandad 4. Vaas 5. Kumble
  5. VP: 1. Wasim Akram 2. D. Lillee 3. Brendon McCullum 4. Michael Clarke 5. Boom Boom
  6. Mani - Ijazz17: 1. Glenn McGrath 2. Hayden 3. Mohammed Yousuf 4. Alec Stewart 5. Kane Williamson
  7. KM: 1. Allan Donald 2. Shane Watson 3. Saeed Ajmal 4. Aravinda De Silva 5. Joe Root
  8. PaulScholes18: 1. Kumar Sangakara 2. Sehwag 3. Holding 4. Rohit Sharma 5. A Mendis
  9. Boycott: 1. Waqar Younis 2. Ganguly 3. Malinga 4. Walsh 5. Gibbs
  10. MJJ - Akash: 1. Imran Khan 2. Lara 3.Pietersen 4. Steyn 5. Steve Smith
  11. Crappy: 1. Jacques Kallis 2. Shane Warne 3. Shoaib Akhtar 4. Saeed Anwar 5. Cairns 6. Graeme Smith
  12. The Red Viper: 1. Shaun Pollock 2. Lance Klusener 3. Michael Hussey 4. Desmond Haynes 5. Greg Chappell 6. Daniel Vettori
  13. Skizzo: 1. Murali 2. Jayasuriya 3. Gayle 4. Inzamam 5. McDermott 6. Rhodes
  14. NM -Prath: 1. MS Dhoni 2. Virat Kohli 3. Flintoff 4. Andy Roberts 5. Kirsten 6. Shakib Al Hasan
  15. Skills: 1. Ricky Ponting 2. Kapil Dev 3. Saqlain Mushtaq 4. Andy Flower 5. Azharuddin 6. Ntini
  16. Samid: 1. Joel Garner 2. Michael Bevan 3. Gordon Greenidge 4. Zaheer Abbas 5. Abdul Qadir 6. Martin Crowe
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