Get rid of an attacker and get a RB.
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Get rid of an attacker and get a RB.
At the moment Sárosi doesn't quite fit the system either but his versatility gives me a bit of tactical variety in the squad. I'm half-expecting Spencer to bomb so I need the option to play 2 or 3 different systems and potentially push Di Stéfano further forward. I think a lot of people are familiar with him as a striker due to the old 5-man attack setups so I'm looking at ways to incorporate that without limiting his influence/freedom. Can't hurt to have another total footballer in the team in any case.
Was planning on dropping costas but was thinking of fortitude telling me that chumpitaz would work best in a 3 man defense.
I would've thought that would be with either good full backs or very solid defensive coverage from the midfield to boot? I'm not 100% sure about the mechanics of some of the older formations.
Nasazzi did use to play on the right hand side of 3-5-2 formation while zebec could play anywhere on the pitch. Plus barca played something similar with 3 at the back and it worked with mixed results for them.
And I think monti and edwards would provide enough defense for me, monti in particular.
I dont like that formation as it doesnt provide any width which might be an issue, plus voters dont really like strange formations.
Fortitude didn't mean anything like that MJJ. When he said three at the back you obviously needed fullbacks/wingbacks as well.
I mean the only person protecting the right flank is Garrincha..
I mean the only person protecting the right flank is Garrincha..
two keepers? What the feck.
One will be sub obviously. My last 2 picks aren't gonna set the world alight and don't expect anyone to pick them, so i wanna make sure i've the right keeper
I see Jake was just online..
Wait, Cutch has two keepers?
The difference between someone like Shay Given and Buffon doesn't even seem to have an affect on the voting in these drafts, never mind a difference as miniscule as between Maier and Kahn! Very strange. I'd have Maier over Kahn personally but it's very close.
The difference between someone like Shay Given and Buffon doesn't even seem to have an affect on the voting in these drafts, never mind a difference as miniscule as between Maier and Kahn! Very strange. I'd have Maier over Kahn personally but it's very close.
I can get nasazzi to move to the right and monti to drop in when needed? And saurez can obviously help but yeah that formation looks weird on paper.
The feck is that?
The old you score one, we score 3 tactics.
MJJ will be hoping he's drawn at home so the pitch can be narrowed to 60 yards.
It might work if you trick people into thinking Luis and Monti are two different players.
I am hoping I play jake tbf. I prioritized getting him over a RB as can see monti going but doubt any one would pick a rb as their 12/13th pick.
Nah seriously mate, I'd avoid this one. You've certainly been creative but I think in practise it would get slaughtered. I mean Zebec isn't even your typical defensive player.
Zebec is great as a wingback though, so if you had a comparable player on the right then Fortitude was getting at playing 3 at the back with wingbacks. I am not saying you should do this though because its too late and you have great players suited to other formations.
well he was called double wide for a reason.
......luis......monti
zebec-chumpitaz-nasazzi
....... Schmeichel
My plan is still to play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3, wanted monti as it will give me defensive stability against strong teams as is one of the best argentine player ever.
Still no harm in trying.
Yeah I think that 4-2-3-1 will be great man.
Btw, Fergus was the one who should have gone three at the back.
Btw, Fergus was the one who should have gone three at the back.
Well, Nasazzi and Monti would've played in similarly attack-heavy setups with the out-side right doing absolutely no defending, but then that's why they had to score 4 goals in a final to win a World Cup. In 1982 the two best footballing sides were Platini's France and Zico's Brazil but they both went out to the more tactical, functional outfits in Germany and Italy and since then we've seen a series of functional, tactically astute sides win the World Cup. Brazil in 2002 were perhaps the most free-flowing World Cup winners since then with Argentina in 1986 the only real contenders bu both sides had at least two pure workhorses in there (Batista, Giusti; Gilberto, Kléberson) along with that a 3-man defence and two wingbacks. Trésor said France lost because they didn't know how to kill a game off and just played their normal game throughout while Zico said the same while highlighting Germany's more cynical approach:
Trésor said:
Zico said:
The same would be true of anyone up against MJJ's team - the adventure is admirable but the opposition is just going to highlight those weaknesses at the back without getting involved in a '30s-style end-to-end game.
Luis Monti Known as Doble Ancho due to his wide coverage of the pitch. Man marked matthias sindelar out of a world cup semi-final. Played as an playmaking defensive midfielder and won the world cup with italy in 1934. Interestingly, he was invited to play for italy as the coach thought him and meazza would link up very well.
4 time serie a winner and was in the all-star world cup team in both 1930 and 1934.
Meh, pussy. He actually cried at half-time while Argentina were still 2-1 up, "Have you seen that? There must be 100,000 people out there. If we win they will kill us". He didn't want to go back for the second half.
Previous Olympics finals had 24,000-28,000 spectators. With 100,00 (10-20,000 of them Argies) FIFA was concerned, had passed on their concerns and the Uruguayan players had been specifically instructed not to tackle hard or trigger any sort of crowd reaction (despite there being fences and a huge moat around the pitch).
As Monti cried his eyes off, the Uruguayan changing room was visited by FIFA authorities congratulating the players on their behaviour (my grandad actually was there and had to show agreement except that he was fuming!). The moment they left, Monti's equivalent for Uruguay (Lorenzo Fernandez) told the players he didn't care, if they lost he would kill them all. Nassazi added: "He will kill you, and I will bury you. Now, we'd better start getting stuck in or we are not winning this".
Monti did come back for the second half but was non-existent (in the video I posted, third Uruguayan goal, he is the one doing monkey jumps in no man's land, not quite closing down Andrade, nor close enough to any other attacker). Years later he would confess: "I realised if I touched anyone all hell would break loose. I was a marked man, so I told my half-back partners: "You get stuck in, because I can't". What did they want? For me to be a football hero?".
In 1934 it was all a lot easier, playing home, and this time there was an actual death threat. If they lost, straight from Mussolini's mouth, "firing squad". You Argie? I don't care, you eyetie today, you win or me kill. Great motivational speech
Pele-Ruminiegge
Boniek- Neeskens Tardelli Blokhin
Cole Carvalho Passarella Thuram
Zamora
Thoughts????
Boniek- Neeskens Tardelli Blokhin
Cole Carvalho Passarella Thuram
Zamora
Thoughts????
Meh, pussy. He actually cried at half-time while Argentina were still 2-1 up, "Have you seen that? There must be 100,000 people out there. If we win they will kill us". He didn't want to go back for the second half.
Previous Olympics finals had 24,000-28,000 spectators. With 100,00 (10-20,000 of them Argies) FIFA was concerned, had passed on their concerns and the Uruguayan players had been specifically instructed not to tackle hard or trigger any sort of crowd reaction (despite there being fences and a huge moat around the pitch).
As Monti cried his eyes off, the Uruguayan changing room was visited by FIFA authorities congratulating the players on their behaviour (my grandad actually was there and had to show agreement except that he was fuming!). The moment they left, Monti's equivalent for Uruguay (Lorenzo Fernandez) told the players he didn't care, if they lost he would kill them all. Nassazi added: "He will kill you, and I will bury you. Now, we'd better start getting stuck in or we are not winning this".
Monti did come back for the second half but was non-existent (in the video I posted, third Uruguayan goal, he is the one doing monkey jumps in no man's land, not quite closing down Andrade, nor close enough to any other attacker). Years later he would confess: "I realised if I touched anyone all hell would break loose. I was a marked man, so I told my half-back partners: "You get stuck in, because I can't". What did they want? For me to be a football hero?".
In 1934 it was all a lot easier, playing home, and this time there was an actual death threat. If they lost, straight from Mussolini's mouth, "firing squad". You Argie? I don't care, you eyetie today, you win or me kill. Great motivational speech
I did read all that while researching varela and nasazzi. Not worried about him acting like a pussy as others will keep him in line and he showed in 1934 that when asked he can defend very well.
And those quotes are brilliant. What does 'you eyetie today' means?
Still a possibility, it's Kocsis and Czibor battling for a starting berth. Who I go for will dictate the formation, the other will hopefully get brought into play once (if) we get a fuller squad.
my turn now yeah?
I thought you had Bobby Zamora leading the line for a second there. That looks fine. Could use another midfielder next for when you come up against teams that have a strong three in the middle.
Both are known more for their defensive abilities than their attacking so maybe they will be fine provided I surround them with good fullbacks?
I'd be a shit Patriot if I didn't have a fellow Irishman in my team. And as my all time footballing hero is gone (Roy Keane) I'm going to go with possibly the most under rated player of his generation, mainly because he's a bit of a knob on RTE.
Johnny Giles
Johnny Giles
They have to, they are from the same country
. Did you really think that through? Why not an equally easy sell at GK BUT from a different country? You've basically ruled out all German outfield players, from here to the end...Unless you then get a third keeper
Only mightberight left.. please do not take my keeper. (even though I might have e reserve in case)
My team is really starting to come together, and I have a feeling if people look at how the chemistry could work, I could get far enough in the competition.
---------------Law
-------------Ronaldo
Gento-------------------Augusto
-------Peters--------Giles
------------Deschamps
----Maldini---------------Stam
----------------Jane
-----------------GK
---------------Law
-------------Ronaldo
Gento-------------------Augusto
-------Peters--------Giles
------------Deschamps
----Maldini---------------Stam
----------------Jane
-----------------GK
They have to, they are from the same country
Unless you then get a third keeper
I wasn't content with tryin to talk up a keeper I've never seen play, and Kahn's peak is as good as any I've seen in my lifetime, probably even Schmeichel included. Wish I'd gone with him in the first place.
Not overly fussed with subs at this stage. If I got through the first game it's the players I then acquire that will be pushing for a starting XI place
Don't think you'll get away with that personally, Id get a right back.
Also MJJ, I wouldn't be so cocky about your team against me.
Very few people will be able to get pasta back 3/4 of Maldini, Stam, Jane and Deschamps.
Peters and Giles are two of the most complete midfielders of all time.
Gento was one of the greatest players of all time, Augusto and him are both excellent on the ball as well as amazingly quick, and Law and Ronaldo interchanging as 9 and 10 is I think the best 2 man attack in the series.
Very few people will be able to get pasta back 3/4 of Maldini, Stam, Jane and Deschamps.
Peters and Giles are two of the most complete midfielders of all time.
Gento was one of the greatest players of all time, Augusto and him are both excellent on the ball as well as amazingly quick, and Law and Ronaldo interchanging as 9 and 10 is I think the best 2 man attack in the series.
Don't think you'll get away with that personally, Id get a right back.
Jane is also a right back, so I could get another CB and play maldini as a fullback.
Not precisely quote that thing at the end, more my script for the conversation Monti never had with Mussolini. He actually stayed silent, but in that same interview confessed his thoughts were "why the feck should they kill me if I lose? I'm Argentinian!".
Eyetie being slang for IT, Italian (some would say offensive, I find it funny, have Italian blood and don't give a rat's).
That's what he means, just say Matthaus, Brehme, Breitner or God forbid, Beckenbauer become available, how are you going to draft them? If you had Maier in goal and another keeper of another nationality on the bench, you could take Maier off for your sub keeper to free up the German spot and bring in one of those legends.
I know what you mean though, never mind worrying about future subs, just try and win your first round! Like I pointed out earlier though, Goal keeper make little of any impact on these drafts usually.