I don't see much of an issue with playing Meazza, Garrincha and a left-sided player in behind Muller in a 4231. Edwards can cover Garrincha's flank while the other holding midfielder mops up the rest.
See, I don't really acknowledge a lot of the subtle differences in formations like, that, for me what I was described can easily be construed as a 4231. I should've probably made that more clear.
Ok you're making it clear that Meazza is central, forcing yourself to have to pick traditional left winger. I wouldn't let that bother me personally, if there's a great winger out there left to pick and a world class 'inside forward' I would still opt for the better player if I think it will make my team that little better. Votes are another issue.
Everything we know of Meazza indicates that he could play any attacking role and he is renowned so it's not that terrible a pick and not really a tactical disaster either. Denis Law played as an 'inside forward' too, ok so Meazza didn't play the role I was describing. But unlike Law, the things he is renowned for, dribbling, pace, invention etc are all perfect attributes for the position that MJJ was thinking of putting him in. With Suarez naturally dropping deeper and able to be just as effective slightly withdrawn, Meazza can move inside from the left as he feels appropriate and he would create space for hopefully a great RB.
Muller
-----Meazza---------------Garrincha
Suarez
There's not much wrong with that IMO and can work just fine. Reminiscent of Utd with Ronaldo and all the players are great enough and have the skill sets to make it work.
Don't think it was his intention. I did notice a fair bit of campaigning with the whole Iniesta/Zidane comparison and it has been dealt with internally.
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Fair enough, Aldo knows I think he's great though, helped me loads inthe other draft which you also helped with a great deal!
Not the first time I have held that view though. it would look like I am campaigning for my player, but there was recently a thread about some all time XI squads in the newbies and I raised the same points there as well.
I think I should start campaigning for some other teams to rectify my reputation that has been tarnished by Fergus' son.
Great, start with Beckenbauer and Didi!
I would certainly be calling you up on that. I have seen Garrincha a million times, club and country (lived in Brazil, they had a great retro football channel), not once did I see him on the left wing or anywhere near anything "insidey", pure right wing.
He played inside in the final, with a winger providing the width. Can he do an Iniesta? Yes. Can you play with a wide player and an inside forward on the other side doing an Iniesta? Yes, but every time someone has done that they ended up with egg on their face, people like symmetry, ask Gio (note. your advice on fullbacks there was very good). Do I think MJJ should give up the chance of having an actual wide player in case he comes up against a weak RB? No, it cost me the 70s final not to have an out and out winger tearing a new one into Gary Kelly.
Yeah, the symmetry thing. I can see what you are saying that it may affect the votes but it's all in good fun anyway and I think his team could actually work well once it's all figured out. What I really wanted to make clear was that his thought behind could and actually would work, especially with someone of his reputed talent and I don't think it's particularly difficult for forwards to adjust to different systems.
Like I said further up, I see that formation with Garrincha Suarez and Meazza behind Muller being effective. Great array of multi talents there and symmetry is overrated.