All-Time Fantasy Draft

jakec said:
anyone any opinion on my team so far?
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Maldini and Gento are footballing dynasties in themselves while Ronaldo's perhaps the best one-man attack the game's seen - not too shabby. Deschamps isn't in that class though. There's a few Frenchmen there that were much more influential in the same position. Not a weak link in a lineup but not a 3rd pick.

NM said:
What do you think of my team so far Brwned?

I like yours - my only concern about Giggsy is what his prime is? he was unbelievably consistent, but what would you regard as his prime.
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Can't argue with any of the picks. Not convinced Giggs at his peak is any better than Boniek myself and he offers a lot of versatility at this stage. Incredible energy between him and Neeskens. Nothing to say about Passarella or Pelé other than sheer class at either end. Covered all the bases so there'll be absolutely no weak point in that side.

Early '90s Giggs is what I'll be looking for. Paco Gento and Di Stéfano had a fantastic partnership and Giggs offers a very similar threat. Then Di Stéfano can be that inspirational Cantona-figure going the other way.
 
antohan said:
People are suckers for attacking power, so long as you do a reasonably neat job with the rest you'll be fine and you will be able to pick brilliant reinforcements for those unaddressed areas.

Early favourite along with Brwned and Gio IMO. EDogen not looking too shabby either. As it stands right now, I would hate to be drawn against any of those teams.
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I genuinely don't get that. A balanced team with class players will probably rip apart an attack heavy team with class players.
 
I went with deschamps over some other frenchmen because of his leadership, I'm picking a team full of winners. Youngest captain to win a champions league, captain of a world cup/euro cup winning france team.
 
jakec said:
I went with deschamps over some other frenchmen because of his leadership, I'm picking a team full of winners. Youngest captain to win a champions league, captain of a world cup/euro cup winning france team.
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you mean youngest captain to dope themselves to the champions league surely? :wenger:
 
Cutch said:
You're spot on but i think Antohan is referring to the average voter, the one that will cast their eye over the 2 teams for about 10 seconds before voting.
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well im fecked then.. I was planning on making a balanced team - or I would have gone with the pele eusebio combo!!
 
NM said:
well im fecked then.. I was planning on making a balanced team - or I would have gone with the pele eusebio combo!!
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I'm not saying you have to become unbalanced. There is nothing unbalanced about him as it is. My point is if he ended up with a rather strange CM pair he would probably get away with it in the first knockout game (unless he is way too unlucky with the draw).
 
Cutch said:
Nah, don't think you've anything to worry about. Very strong spine going on there.
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tbh i owe a lot to theon and anointed one - I didn't know about Boniek until I read up on their advice. Just wish I'd taken Best with my first pick. Pele's the better player probably, but Best's nationality and this being a united forum will probably swing it.
 
Brwned said:
Not convinced Giggs at his peak is any better than Boniek myself
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I've said it before, Boniek was the player I thought/hoped Giggs would become. Injuries stopped him from ever getting there, then he reinvented himself. I don't think he ever reached Boniek's heights, but had Giggs carried on being the player he was while gradually adding the experience, vision and eye for a pass he displays today. Well... he would have gone in the first round, it's that simple.
 
NM said:
tbh i owe a lot to theon and anointed one - I didn't know about Boniek until I read up on their advice. Just wish I'd taken Best with my first pick. Pele's the better player probably, but Best's nationality and this being a united forum will probably swing it.
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United bias probably counts for a lot with some players, but this is Pele. You got the greatest player of all time, it was a good pick.

It's a shame you were only two picks away from Pele and Garrincha on the same team. That would have earnt you my vote anyway.
 
antohan said:
I've said it before, Boniek was the player I thought/hoped Giggs would become. Injuries stopped him from ever getting there, then he reinvented himself. I don't think he ever reached Boniek's heights, but had Giggs carried on being the player he was while gradually adding the experience, vision and eye for a pass he displays today. Well... he would have gone in the first round, it's that simple.
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I think if Giggs had gone to Italy then he would have gone in the first round.

That is for another more Giggs orientated thread.
 
lunchforthesky said:
United bias probably counts for a lot with some players, but this is Pele. You got the greatest player of all time, it was a good pick.

It's a shame you were only two picks away from Pele and Garrincha on the same team. That would have earnt you my vote anyway.
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Nationality rule would prevent that, how I wish I could have another German in my team!

Is it worth me PMing someone?
 
lunchforthesky said:
United bias probably counts for a lot with some players, but this is Pele. You got the greatest player of all time, it was a good pick.

It's a shame you were only two picks away from Pele and Garrincha on the same team. That would have earnt you my vote anyway.
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Not possible, you can have one player from a nation.
 
NM said:
tbh i owe a lot to theon and anointed one - I didn't know about Boniek until I read up on their advice. Just wish I'd taken Best with my first pick. Pele's the better player probably, but Best's nationality and this being a united forum will probably swing it.
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You see why I offered to trade places when you complained about your place in the draft and wanting to be either further up or closer to the bottom? Yes, I wanted Best and I thought he would not last long beyond your turn.

Stop worrying and enjoy it. It really isn't worth getting so hung up on it.

Don't be afraid to make your own decisions, stick to them, learn when you feck up, don't go off in a strop if you lose. Over time you will realise that the draft is actually the most fun and the outcome of the games is secondary.
 
lunchforthesky said:
United bias probably counts for a lot with some players, but this is Pele. You got the greatest player of all time, it was a good pick.

It's a shame you were only two picks away from Pele and Garrincha on the same team. That would have earnt you my vote anyway.
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Couldn't do that anyway as only one player per country is allowed. I nearly had Pele and Eusebio though. That attack though!!:drool:
 
Stobzilla said:
I think if Giggs had gone to Italy then he would have gone in the first round.

That is for another more Giggs orientated thread.
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Reputation-wise? Had he declared for England...:eek:

But yeah, i see your point, maybe the different style there would have forced him to do that transition while still being a wing wizard, while here the more open direct style and United's dominance probably didn't challenge him enough. It was only once his body challenged him that he changed.
 
antohan said:
You see why I offered to trade places when you complained about your place in the draft and wanting to be either further up or closer to the bottom? Yes, I wanted Best and I thought he would not last long beyond your turn.

Stop worrying and enjoy it. It really isn't worth getting so hung up on it.

Don't be afraid to make your own decisions, stick to them, learn when you feck up, don't go off in a strop if you lose. Over time you will realise that the draft is actually the most fun and the outcome of the games is secondary.
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oh I know. I obsessed over the cricket draft and ended up with a very bad balance, but I loved it. I love this too- plus I'm not too busy right now so this helps get my mind off things!
 
As a striker, Pele is the greatest you can have. Even more than Ronaldo, Messi, or Muller, imho. He offers your team so much more than just any other striker. I don't know how anyone can complain having him. I'd gladly swap my Zico with your Pele.
 
Isotope said:
As a striker, Pele is the greatest you can have. Even more than Ronaldo, Messi, or Muller, imho. He offers your team so much more than just any other striker. I don't know how anyone can complain having him. I'd gladly swap my Zico with your Pele.
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I'm not complaining - but it wouldn't be a direct swap would it. Best + another great brazilian might be better. Who knows. Thats the point of the draft!
 
antohan said:
Reputation-wise? Had he declared for England...:eek:

But yeah, i see your point, maybe the different style there would have forced him to do that transition while still being a wing wizard, while here the more open direct style and United's dominance probably didn't challenge him enough. It was only once his body challenged him that he changed.
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I have a crazy theory that an Italian side would have deployed him as a 10 and used his natural inclination to run at people but from central areas, I personally think that is how we should of used him, but only in retrospect and you can't exactly argue with the career he has had.
 
antohan said:
Bring it on! What the hell, if we don't get drawn, we can run a poll and settle it there and then :devil:
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Questions on the Draft:
1. Is it picking 13 players with all different nationality; or is it just fielding a team of 11 dissimilar nationalities?

2. How does it work after the group stage, in terms of nationality players on the bench?

Just to clarify things. Thanks!

EDIT: group stage or knockout
 
Whoops fell asleep, some great choices here.
 
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