All Rossi transfer speculation here please

When you consider the list of players we gave decent first team oppertunities to over the last 3 or 4 years...

Richardson
Pugh
Chadwick
Eagles
Kleberson
Bellion

He's at least a class above all of them. It doesn't make the slightest amount of sense selling him this season if he wants to fight for a place in the line up.

He has a lot of talent and I for one wouldn't be entirely surprised if in two years time Rossi is at Milan or Inter and considered one of the best strikers around scoring more than Mr. Tevez. That isn't the case with Alan Smith... Who brings nothing to the team that Rooney doesn't already give and won't ever be a natural goal scorer like Rossi.

So get rid of Smith and give Joe Red a chance already. Do not let him be the next David Jones.
 
Brad Cantona said:
Dong has been a disgrace to the good name of our club for a long time, a player bought purely on the strength of his nationality and money making potential. Fell sorry for the lad being used like this really, he has no realistic chance of making the first team. Surpises me that Ferguson would be complicit, perhaps I'm missing something
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He did ok in Belgium with a good scoring record, the disgrace bit well over the top, he was bought on future potential but although Antwerp is ok for a season at the most it's no good for long term development. Don't feel sorry for him he will make good money and be taken to a higher standard than he would ever have achieved back home resulting in a good career.
 
MrK said:
Yup, very disappointing. It's not like we're flush with centre forwards at the moment or anything either. He seems to be a very handy player judging by what he did at Parma last season, and the only reason I can see that Ferguson wants to sell him is because he wants to give the lad a proper chance at the great career he has the potential for. Quite selfless if true, but I still would kinda like to be selfish and hang onto him for another season.
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Sorry i don't believe this for a minute. If he leaves its because sir Alex doesn't think he's good enough to command a place in the united team.

I trust SAF's judgement 100%. So should others on this forum.
 
SAF's a wanker if he doesn't give this lad a chance and it makes you wonder why we have a youth academy if we let one of our most promising players go. The lad scores goals for fun and given a chance he will be a great addition to the current squad. If we let him go, i bet he goes on to great thing and SAF comes out a openly says he has been an arse.
 
all this wanker talk is a fecking joke. Show some respect. What fergie said is if a club makes an offer then it puts us in a position. Everyone knows Rossi is a good player - look at the clubs wanting him and the offers. If Rossi wants to stay Sir Alex would have no objection with that. The last time I looked I believe Rossi was still a United player
 
red2deadboy said:
SAF's a wanker
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Is that really necessary??

Do you support one player or the whole club? Firstly Rossi leaving isnt 100% certain and secondly if Fergie's alright with it then we should respect that decision. He's aware of Rossi's progress and if he feels he doesn't need him then so be it. You can't just call him a wanker because your favourite player is being sold.

You need to make your mind up, either support Sir Alex and the club 100% through thick and thin or feck off along with Rossi.
 
Il Tulipo Nero said:
Is that really necessary??

Do you support one player or the whole club? Firstly Rossi leaving isnt 100% certain and secondly if Fergie's alright with it then we should respect that decision. He's aware of Rossi's progress and if he feels he doesn't need him then so be it. You can't just call him a wanker because your favourite player is being sold.

You need to make your mind up, either support Sir Alex and the club 100% through thick and thin or feck off along with Rossi.
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I wouldn't swap SAF for any other manager and i respect him immensely but particular thing has me pissed off. Yeah maye the language was a bit strong though sometimes its that little bit more special when you've followed a young player through from the academy and he makes it in the 1st team. I'm not referring to Rossi in particular but any young player who comes through and though we all want the team to clean up, at what price? does this mean no young player will get a chance to shine in the 1st team or will we become a chelsea type buy the player club.
All these other clubs see what a quality player he is and i find it hard to understand why SAF doesn't consider this kid in our future plans. NAG OVER
 
My point of view is that Rossi wants to stay but he and his agent wanted some kind of assurance to feature in more games especially after what he's done with Parma.

It's understandable as he isn't getting any younger. However his agent surely is trying to push him out of OT since he'll gain more financially if Rossi moves.

Being the agent of a guy with Rossi's quality I'm sure he'll wanna cash in sooner rather than later or at least expected to had gained more from Rossi already.

Instead he had been on the fringe for a few years now with probably not much going to the agent.

I'm sure there are plenty of agents with lesser players than Rossi but had banked in a lot more.

Surely on Rossi's side he must be looking at players like Torres and wonder what might have been.

To sell Rossi for £6-7 millions after what we got for Richardson is beyond comprehension.

If Rossi is a Spurs player we and we're interested I don't think we'll pay less than twice that amount.
 
Ekeke said:
When you consider the list of players we gave decent first team oppertunities to over the last 3 or 4 years...

Richardson
Pugh
Chadwick
Eagles
Kleberson
Bellion
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Add to that list Smith and Forlan both were/are complete dogshit compared to the potential Rossi has, yes it is only potential at the moment but ffs give him atleast a chance.

I pray this is all just newspaper bollocks but I fear its not and Rossi will be moved on.
 
RedTom said:
Add to that list Smith and Forlan both were/are complete dogshit compared to the potential Rossi has, yes it is only potential at the moment but ffs give him atleast a chance.

I pray this is all just newspaper bollocks but I fear its not and Rossi will be moved on.
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Smith has played in two european cup semi-finals, is in england squad, wanted by a number of PL teams and been a regular player in the premiership since he was a lot younger than Rossi
.Forlan is so bad he was top scorer in spain, has just been transferred for 14 million to valencia and has many caps for Uruguay.

Now i have seen a lot of Rossi and he has talent no doubt but you lot a way over the top


has he played for the Italy full side or even been in their squad?

no

was he first choice in the under 21 side

no

now he played well when he had his chance and played pretty well in most games (not all ) for Parma but he has yet to prove himself as anything like as good at football as some of you queens have at drama !!!
 
RedPhil1957 said:
Smith has played in two european cup semi-finals, is in england squad, wanted by a number of PL teams and been a regular player in the premiership since he was a lot younger than Rossi
.Forlan is so bad he was top scorer in spain, has just been transferred for 14 million to valencia and has many caps for Uruguay.

Now i have seen a lot of Rossi and he has talent no doubt but you lot a way over the top


has he played for the Italy full side or even been in their squad?

no

was he first choice in the under 21 side

no

now he played well when he had his chance and played pretty well in most games (not all ) for Parma but he has yet to prove himself as anything like as good at football as some of you queens have at drama !!!
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Italy are known not to give young players a chance often. Were he from Portugal he'd be in the first team squad. You're right, he didn't play amazingly in every single game for Parma - But he scored a quantity of goals there that cannot be overlooked. He offers something not a lot of the players in our squad offer - a lot of goals.

And as a goal scorer, you don't always have to play amazingly well to make a difference. Sometimes you get one chance and if you put it away, you've done a good job. Just ask Ruud.

That is something Rossi has. Strip away his dribbling and passing ability and you still have a high quality player purely because of his finishing.

There aren't many players his age with such a combination of skills and goal scoring ability.
 
red2deadboy said:
SAF's a wanker if he doesn't give this lad a chance and it makes you wonder why we have a youth academy if we let one of our most promising players go. The lad scores goals for fun and given a chance he will be a great addition to the current squad. If we let him go, i bet he goes on to great thing and SAF comes out a openly says he has been an arse.
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Name an academy/youth team player whom United have released and regretted...

SAF knows his onions.
 
Ekeke said:
Italy are known not to give young players a chance often. Were he from Portugal he'd be in the first team squad. You're right, he didn't play amazingly in every single game for Parma - But he scored a quantity of goals there that cannot be overlooked. He offers something not a lot of the players in our squad offer - a lot of goals.

And as a goal scorer, you don't always have to play amazingly well to make a difference. Sometimes you get one chance and if you put it away, you've done a good job. Just ask Ruud.

That is something Rossi has. Strip away his dribbling and passing ability and you still have a high quality player purely because of his finishing.

There aren't many players his age with such a combination of skills and goal scoring ability.
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Good post
 
Ekeke said:
Italy are known not to give young players a chance often. Were he from Portugal he'd be in the first team squad. You're right, he didn't play amazingly in every single game for Parma - But he scored a quantity of goals there that cannot be overlooked. He offers something not a lot of the players in our squad offer - a lot of goals.

And as a goal scorer, you don't always have to play amazingly well to make a difference. Sometimes you get one chance and if you put it away, you've done a good job. Just ask Ruud.

That is something Rossi has. Strip away his dribbling and passing ability and you still have a high quality player purely because of his finishing.

There aren't many players his age with such a combination of skills and goal scoring ability.
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As I said Rossi has lots of potential and might just make the very top but our coaches and SAF have got perfect records in making that judgment so why question them this time.
 
In fact Ferguson might be said to persevere too long while Wenger's more ruthless. I've seen a bit of Rossi in various games on TV I fail to see what all the fuss is about.
 
IMO, it's simply down to 2 issues:-

1. Fergie needs to offload at least one striker if Tevez come on board. Sounding out the market about Smith and Rossi's availability gives him options instead of having just one made available.
2. Rossi, from my observations, is ultimately more ambitious and keen on his advancement. I recall when Fergie loaned him to Newcastle last season, Fergie said that it was because Rossi spoke to him and was disappointed that he didn't make the starting 11 nor came on later in the Charlton away game when Rooney was suspended. Giggs partnered Saha then. So, keeping him content on the bench could be a factor & challenge in Fergie's equation/thinking.

Personally, I would not want to see him leave either but I'm not going to second guess Fergie's judgment.
 
RedPhil1957 said:
As I said Rossi has lots of potential and might just make the very top but our coaches and SAF have got perfect records in making that judgment so why question them this time.
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Simply because his talent is there for all to see. If there were 10 or 12 other players his age playing as strikers who were making headlines for their team in Italy / Spain / England's top flight then perhaps we'd be less sure.

But Rossi stands out because of his age and his technical ability. If we let him go now, we will regret it no doubt. He will definately have raised his value to twice the bids we are receiving, in the next two years. I have no doubt what so ever, because he is the stand out Italian striker in his age group - In fact, the stand out striker in his age group period.

I'm absolutely sure that he's a £15 million+ striker in the making who will score a bucketload of goals. And while he's more suited to Italy, there was a time when Ronaldo was much more suited to Spanish football. Young players adapt and they shine. Ronaldo is a great example of a player who didn't have a lot of strength on the ball when he signed, but now has a lot - more than enough to destroy defences single-handedly.

And Rossi is stronger on the ball than Ronaldo was when he signed. Of course, he's also older and I'm not suggesting he'll be quite as good as Ronaldo, just that given the chance and with some hard work a young very talented technical player like Rossi/Ronaldo can develop the physical side of their game that allows the technical side of their game to shine.

So for me, it doesn't matter who it is that is contemplating letting him leave. It doesn't matter what their record with young players is. If we sell Rossi this summer then I will personally consider it a bad summer of business no matter who else we have or will sign.

peterstorey said:
In fact Ferguson might be said to persevere too long while Wenger's more ruthless. I've seen a bit of Rossi in various games on TV I fail to see what all the fuss is about.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYJrk4lZRjU&mode=related&search=

Just a taste of course. But he's come on a bit since then.
 
Anyone notice how Rossi is not as small as he used to be? To my eyes he looks bigger and stronger than he was when we first signed him. A growth spurt perhaps? This will help him to show more battling qualities in the premiership. He deserves to be in our squad next season.
 
RedPhil1957 said:
Smith has played in two european cup semi-finals, is in england squad, wanted by a number of PL teams and been a regular player in the premiership since he was a lot younger than Rossi
.Forlan is so bad he was top scorer in spain, has just been transferred for 14 million to valencia and has many caps for Uruguay.
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RedTom said:
Add to that list Smith and Forlan both were/are complete dogshit compared to the potential Rossi has, yes it is only potential at the moment but ffs give him atleast a chance.
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Just to clarify for you my comment about Forlan was on his time at our club, no one can agrue he wasn't a dissapointment and he was given plenty of chances. What he has done in Spain changes feck all about his time at United.

My Alan comment was however on his time at United, I just don't see a good player, its only my opinion. But your point at how he has played in two two european cup semi-finals means nothing when you consider the Leeds team at the time was spending like it was going out of fashion. Also think of all the Liverpool players that picked up a European medal a few years back.
 
Old Lady target Rossi
By Nadia Carminati - Created on 24 Jul 2007 11:45pm

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Reports in Italy suggest Juventus could enter the race to sign Manchester United striker Giuseppe Rossi.

Sir Alex Ferguson has hinted at the possibility of selling the Italy Under 21 international with the impending arrival of Carlos Tevez at Old Trafford.

Parma are known to be keen to take Rossi back to Italy permanently, having signed the 20-year-old on loan in January.

The Gialloblu are thought to have already tabled a bid for the young hit-man, but are likely to face competition from a number of Serie A clubs.

Milan have been credited with an interest, and now Juventus are understood to be admirers of Rossi.

Juventus are rumoured to be looking to sign Rossi and then sending him out on a season-long loan to Parma for next term.

The Old Lady have refused to comment on the speculation.
 
GIT Z RED said:
Old Lady target Rossi
By Nadia Carminati - Created on 24 Jul 2007 11:45pm

Visit the beautiful city of Venice for an experience you will never forget.


Reports in Italy suggest Juventus could enter the race to sign Manchester United striker Giuseppe Rossi.

Sir Alex Ferguson has hinted at the possibility of selling the Italy Under 21 international with the impending arrival of Carlos Tevez at Old Trafford.

Parma are known to be keen to take Rossi back to Italy permanently, having signed the 20-year-old on loan in January.

The Gialloblu are thought to have already tabled a bid for the young hit-man, but are likely to face competition from a number of Serie A clubs.

Milan have been credited with an interest, and now Juventus are understood to be admirers of Rossi.

Juventus are rumoured to be looking to sign Rossi and then sending him out on a season-long loan to Parma for next term.

The Old Lady have refused to comment on the speculation.
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what is it about old ladies and our young strikers?
 
I've said this before and I will say it again, big Italian clubs like Milan and Juve hardly ever buy young players and even when they do they usually pay less than £5mil for them. The fact that Milan and Juve want Rossi shows that they've seen something in him. Some of my Italian Milanistas have been wanking in the last weeks over the prospect of linking up Rossi and Gourcuff. Fergie please don't let the razor sharp man go.
 
Probably recovering from something

U21 European championships...
 
Cos Rossi played quite a bit for the U21's and Dong.. well his side hardly played due to be knocked out in the first round. Plus Dong has a majority of fans in Asia. They love im.. kind of like Park!!
 
Rossi wants move to Napoli

Manchester United striker Giuseppe Rossi is ready to make a switch to Napoli! The young frontman knows he will be puished right out of Old Trafford should Carlos Tevez arrive and Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted he and Alan Smith can leave.

His representative Federico Pastorello has revealed Rossi is keen on a move to Napoli, but Parma, with whom he spent much of last season on loan, remain very keen. Pastorello explained, "Giuseppe would be more than happy to play for Napoli. He cares more about the future and the atmosphere surrounding the team than about money. In any case, he is worth around 10 million euros." Parma president Tommaso Ghirardi said: "We have met with the agents of Giuseppe Rossi. We had a recap of the situation, but we know that we have to wait for the return of Manchester United from the Asian tour before knowing something more about Giuseppe."

http://notw.typepad.com/extratime/2007/07/rossi-wants-mov.html#more
 
Il Tulipo Nero said:
Is that really necessary??

Do you support one player or the whole club? Firstly Rossi leaving isnt 100% certain and secondly if Fergie's alright with it then we should respect that decision. He's aware of Rossi's progress and if he feels he doesn't need him then so be it. You can't just call him a wanker because your favourite player is being sold.

You need to make your mind up, either support Sir Alex and the club 100% through thick and thin or feck off along with Rossi.
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though i echo your sentiments..behave lad.

Im sre fergie can handle it ;)
 
that's what rossi can do though. He has elusive abilities in that he doesn't have to hold the ball up he can outsmart most defenses. His touch and awareness are great and he is capable of running with the ball and scoring out of nothing. I hope he stays, his agents hinted Rossi wants games so I hope he's told how important he could be at our club because most people that have watched his development realize what an incredible talent he is. I don't think i'm going overboard either. Technically speaking he's got 'it' - I cannot think of one game where Rossi's not shown quality. He's much more then a goalscorer. Hopefully he'll get a look in on wednesday. I'm sure if he does the fans will make him feel wanted
 
Ferguson has also recalled a crop of promising youngsters — who he dubbed “the future” — from loan spells at other clubs
He added: “My biggest management job in the next campaign will be with the young players — Jonny Evans, Gerard Pique, Danny Simpson, Lee Martin, Chris Eagles, Frazier Campbell and Giuseppe Rossi.
“They’re terrific players and there’s no way we’d even think about letting them go out on loan to another club now, because they are the future.
“It’ll be hard to keep them happy but we’ve got some ideas of how to cope.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007350200,00.html

I hope that SAF will be true to his word. If we keep the above young players, our squad will be very good next season. He didn't mention Phil Bardsley though (Danny Simpson is better prospect than Phil as I saw in the pre-season games)
 
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