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To think that we sacrificed Ruud for this ungrateful poser.
Sacrificed Ruud? He wanted to leave.
You're just bitter that you're username is obsolete.
To think that we sacrificed Ruud for this ungrateful poser.
The media debacle is created by his comments and flirtations.
Why did Paul Scholes never get linked with a move? Why is Wayne Rooney never linked with a move?
Sacrificed Ruud? He wanted to leave.
You're just bitter that you're username is obsolete.
yes. drool over another team.
Not like us on here, eh? What a shining example we are.Of course I agree he hasn't denied a move ; I've been saying that all along. But you don't agree the media has gone way overboard?
Personally, I think they've gone mental. fecking bunch of loopers. We'll see what happens.
What part of "I stay" suggests anything other than exactly that?
No way did Ruud want to leave, he even stated afterward that he was planning on finishing his career at OT, but the bust up with Ronaldo forced him out. The same Ronaldo who is finding it difficult to come out and say "I want to stay here at least another season and defend the title" What a circus...
No way did Ruud want to leave, he even stated afterward that he was planning on finishing his career at OT, but the bust up with Ronaldo forced him out. The same Ronaldo who is finding it difficult to come out and say "I want to stay here at least another season and defend the title" What a circus...
Well, reports say he asked to leave three times I believe, beginning on the day of the cup final against Arsenal, and Alex Ferguson on the Frost interview directly claimed that Ruud wanted to leave from the point he signed a new contract, he had no intention of staying on longer than that
I thought his attitude stank. And Heinze's. There's a common theme developing here...
To be fair, Beckham was a bit different, I think he has a good attitude, but he let the media side of his life get the better of him. There's no way a United lad through and through would want to leave the club
Intelligent enough to be enticed by 300K a week.Yeah, if Ronaldo really wants to leave there's little we can do. But I still think he wants to stay and has just got carried away by this hype. In the Frost interview, Ferguson said Ronaldo was an intelligent bloke.I'm not too convinced by that.
Yeah, if Ronaldo really wants to leave there's little we can do. But I still think he wants to stay and has just got carried away by this hype. In the Frost interview, Ferguson said Ronaldo was an intelligent bloke.I'm not too convinced by that.
seriously, eh?Seriously..
Why not just loan him to Real for a month or so?
He and his family get their dream..Real get to sell shirts..and we et to keep him!
Win, win, win situation??
True on the face of it but if we sat him out for an extended period it might go to courts and as was posted earlier the majority of decisions tend to go to the employees.On the contrary, if Ronaldo wants to leave, there's plenty we can do. Like enforcing his contract so he can't go anywhere. He's essentially powerless for the next two seasons, if we wish to keep him, he's staying here like it or not. By the point his contract is down to two years left, if the player won't sign a new deal, that's when you might be forced to sell in such a situation else risk getting less than the player is worth in a transfer deal. But everything is in our court as thing stand
seriously, eh?
In years back they were legends. Not so today.Isn't that what the fellow and his family want?
Basically he wants to just score a few Golasos with his Galacticos...
Once he reaslies the fickle twats that Real are after he misses a game without scoring and out come the white handkerchiefs, he'll come running right back to us.....
I have never understood the appeal with that club..
Gabriele Marcotti should be on BBC Fivelive tonight. He'll probably be on for a preview of Euro 2008 but he has good contacts on the continent so they are bound to ask him what the word is on the grapevine.
True on the face of it but if we sat him out for an extended period it might go to courts and as was posted earlier the majority of decisions tend to go to the employees.
In years back they were legends. Not so today.
I just wonder if things haven't gone too far for Fergie already. He's a hard man.I don't think the sidelines thing is realistic Bahama, if he stays, I'm sure he'll still give his best, and that Ferguson will play him. I'm sure he has some professional pride, and he'll want to keep Madrid interested to a point in time where his sale is more realistic
Unless he claims he was under duress or something when he signed his last contract, I can't see what the courts could do anyway. I'm sure United don't agree to contracts which indicate a player must play X% of games in a given season
No way did Ruud want to leave, he even stated afterward that he was planning on finishing his career at OT, but the bust up with Ronaldo forced him out. The same Ronaldo who is finding it difficult to come out and say "I want to stay here at least another season and defend the title" What a circus...
Gabriele Marcotti. That sounds like a great way to end speculation
I am pretty sure all of us know what hes going to say.
Wasn't it Jock Stein who once said "Football's not about life and death. It's far more important".
i think the meter should look more like this
Cristiano Ronaldo’s faltering relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson appeared to deteriorate further yesterday when the Portugal winger effectively banned the Manchester United manager from visiting his country’s European Championship training camp.
In an embarrassing snub, Ronaldo has told team-mates that Ferguson is not welcome in Switzerland, bringing a premature end to proposals for peace talks that surfaced in the light of his continued flirtation with Real Madrid.
Ferguson had reservations about travelling to the university town of Neuchâtel in any case, with the United manager reluctant to show his concern at Real’s interest and uneasy about intruding into the sphere of Luiz Felipe Scolari, the Portugal coach, but Ronaldo’s stance has brought an end to the matter.
The 23-year-old’s intransigence springs from anger at Ferguson’s comments last weekend that the Glazer family would rather see him sit in the stands than sell him to Real. Ronaldo is understood to be furious at this perceived slight, but Ferguson was merely responding to the player’s frequent expressions of admiration for Real.
Ronaldo’s mood is all the more frustrating for Ferguson because Scolari had indicated that he would be welcome to visit the player at the Portugal training base. The Brazilian has long been an admirer of Ferguson and the pair share a mutual respect. He also wonders whether Ronaldo is in the right frame of mind for the Euro 2008 campaign, which begins against Turkey in Geneva tomorrow.
“Scolari is a sensitive coach,” a Portuguese source said. “He wants Ronaldo to be settled and if Ronaldo asks to see Ferguson he will allow it. He just wants Ronaldo to be settled so he can play his best.” Gilberto Mandail, president of the Portuguese football federation said: “Having the best Ronaldo in the next three weeks is very much our problem.”
The onus is on Ronaldo to demonstrate that the furore has not compromised his form, although it is becoming apparent that his departure from Old Trafford is a case of when rather than if.
The former Sporting Lisbon winger went farther than ever yesterday, telling a Brazilian website that he would like to sign for Real if a deal can be done, although there is little chance of that happening this summer. With four years remaining on Ronaldo’s contract, United have no reason to sell — even for a world-record transfer fee in excess of £50 million — and Real will have to make a renewed bid in subsequent seasons.
“I would like to play for Real Madrid, but only if it is true they are ready to pay what Manchester United ask of them,” Ronaldo said. “However, it does not depend on me. From today I’m not going to talk about this topic with anyone at all. I’ll only talk about this again after the European Championship. Don’t ask me any questions because I won’t answer.”
Ferguson’s anger will only have increased after comments from Ruud van Nistelrooy, another United player he fell out with, urging Ronaldo to join him at the Bernabéu. The main difference, however, as in the case of David Beckham, is that Ferguson wanted to sell Van Nistelrooy because of the belief that he was a disruptive influence, which is not the situation with Ronaldo.
“He’d be an important signing for Madrid because this is a club which signs the best players in the world, and that’s what Cristiano is,” Van Nistelrooy said. “Cristiano could bring a lot of things to this club. He’s young, he has everything and a long sporting career ahead of him.”
Face it. The boy's a foreigner plying his trade with his employers. He has no obligation to stay with Manchester United for the rest of his career. Yes, he is grateful, but at the end of the day, he has his own preferences, and want to try something different, play in a different country etc. Shouldn't really begrudge him for that. What i am most concern, is that should he leave, Real Madrid has got to really pay the premium fee for him. I would expect nothing less than 80mil pounds, considering his on-field brilliance, and his immense potential marketing. David Beckham was allowed to leave dirt cheap, and should something similar happens, the management has got to answer for it. If Real Madrid want our best players, we have to play according to their rules and make them weaker as a result. I say we go for something like a 40million pounds, Cassilas, Ramous and Robinho. Something on that scale, but not necessary that.