I'll take you up on that.did you read the top of my post?
Its easily got mate..
Like what? Wasn't it Jock Stein who once said "Football's not about life and death. It's far more important". Just a game?! whew
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Like what? Wasn't it Jock Stein who once said "Football's not about life and death. It's far more important". Just a game?! whew
Football's just a game?! Hah!
There's no footage or audio of Ronaldo saying he'll join Real if he gets enough money.
The link is an audio of the interviewer getting interviewed.
When someone collapses and dies on a pitch you will be the first one saying "Puts things in perspective, football is just a game".
Die hard fans or not, their are more important things in life than football.
Wouldn't put it past you mate, especialyy if Ronnie does go
Die hard fans or not, their are more important things in life than football.
Wouldn't put it past you mate, especialyy if Ronnie does go
When someone collapses and dies on a pitch you will be the first one saying "Puts things in perspective, football is just a game".
Die hard fans or not, their are more important things in life than football.
Wouldn't put it past you mate, especialyy if Ronnie does go
No one is denying that there are more important things in life than football..like the stuff you mentioned, definitely...
But football is definitely NOT JUST A GAME.
Feel sorry for Fergie.
1st at the training ground every day. A Season of stresses and strains, fighting off the (weak) challenge of Liverpool, the better ones of Arsenal and Chelsea...winning the double after very stressful games against Wigan and Chelsea.
The man deserves a break, and he is being denied that because he;ll be following this closely, instead of rewinding.
For that reason, Ronaldo is a fecking selfish feck. He's won no respect from me, or all other United fans I know through acting like this, no matter what the outcome. if there is no story, then why not just deny it?
We've just won the double for feck sake!!!!!!!!!! This isn't how it's supposed to be.
1st at the training ground every day. A Season of stresses and strains, fighting off the (weak) challenge of Liverpool, the better ones of Arsenal and Chelsea...winning the double after very stressful games against Wigan and Chelsea.
The man deserves a break, and he is being denied that because he;ll be following this closely, instead of rewinding.
For that reason, Ronaldo is a fecking selfish feck. He's won no respect from me, or all other United fans I know through acting like this, no matter what the outcome. if there is no story, then why not just deny it?
We've just won the double for feck sake!!!!!!!!!! This isn't how it's supposed to be.
Somehow that sounds weird. What have we got to?
Real have links with Terra as does Mendes. All the journos are trying to find out why this, if true, was put out by Terra.
However The Times, Guardian, Telegraph and Independent are all going along on the basis that it's true. That he did say that. Worrying. Terra is well respected, it's not the usual rag.
However, his mum's fkd am all over. Love her little cotton socks.
A man that speaks sense!
Oh, fair enough. I realise it's a job for the players etc., but there's no need for us to take things like this so personally, particularly when there's nothing concrete to base it on. I'd rather just see what happens. And even if Ronnie did leave this summer, I wouldn't call him a cnut because I don't know him. Unless he said something bad about our club, which I don't think he would.
Hold on, i'll type up the clip from their sport bullet-in.
So today, was the announcement and all there will be for some time from him.
My Uncle Bob died at OT in the 70's. My sister was born while me and my dad were at OT watching United beat West Ham 3-1.When someone collapses and dies on a pitch you will be the first one saying "Puts things in perspective, football is just a game".
Die hard fans or not, their are more important things in life than football.
Wouldn't put it past you mate, especialyy if Ronnie does go
There are things in life that you have to DEAL with, yes, like family, job, sex but football's on another level. I thought that's how it was with all of you.
What has he exactly said to cause you to be so aggrevated? Apart from saying a hundred times he's happy here and wants to stay. You know nothing about Ronaldo as a person, I'm fairly sure if there were things to be discussed he would have/will be discussing them with SAF. I find the personal insults to be particularly retarded, not just from you.
The quotes just doesn't sound real at all in my opinion, and it's pretty suspicious how that random journo from Terra is the only one who's been able to get an interview with Ronaldo, yet alone get him to speak about the issue.
It also doesn't help the journalists case that he's now going round being interviewed and what not, that only adds to the theory of him craving attention, which made him write the story in the first place.
It was a pretty clever plan though; releasing an exclusive story on the hottest topic in football right now where everybody is waiting on a comment from Ronaldo.
You can't buy that kind of PR - the website has been mentioned all over the world all day long.
I am crazy about football. But, it's not even my favourite sport (2nd fav). I still love United, and as much a fan as anyone here. I bleed United. But when it comes to issues such as family and health, I don't see the comparison. My family will always win.
I guess that's the difference mate..
I wouldn't call myself a United fan...
More as a United Supporter.
And thinking of that he is the captain of Portugal, how much respect does that show to his teammates? They too are asked day in day out whether Ronaldo has spoken about wanting out of United.
Yet another bad perspective of things.
It is what he hasn't said in many ways. Or when he does say thigns he seems two faced about his future.
It is the claims that he has been in talks with Real Madrid for a fair amount of time.
It is the accepting of a Real Madrid poster as a present from a Spanish journalist at a Porrtuguese national team news conference.
Things like that i'd say.
I am a united supporter. You're forgetting something important here, Im very drunk and not to aware of what Im saying. I dont live in England (Ireland) but I've gone to a game and plan on going to more. I cried when we won the CL FFS. I've watched it at least 5 times (the full game). I'm, as die hard as you can get.
That was an interesting quote from Gomez.
What he's saying is that Ronnie would consider a move to Real IF Real were serious about their numbers. Which numbers? 300,000 quid a week? ffs that would turn my head. And 78M to OT. They're not numbers to stay loyal for. I sort of agree that, with everyone having his price, jumping from 120K to 300K a week is pretty massive. I think Ronnie's waiting to see whether Real can, or will, put their $ where their mouth is. If they do, he's gone. If they don't, he'll stay.
I think we have a long wait.
Fair enough, I'm not trying to provoke anything, I just don't see how anyone can hate him as a person after all he's done with us.
It's not about a competition between United and family. Of course family matters have to be dealt with satisfactorily. But we're talking about religion here.
We need a file on what the Spanish press, specifically Marca and As have been claiming in recent weeks.
I agree with you, he is calling their bluff. There is this line that people come out with, that whenever Real Madrid want a player they always get their man. I think this will test even them.
Our problem is, that if the high ups at OT do have a price in mind and Real drag this out to say mid-late July and then meet it, we're in a bit of a bind time wise.
Bloody hell..14 pages to catch up on. Summary anyone?
Of course not. I was just making the point that there are more important things in life to me. another being religion. Im not an avid mass goes or anything, but I put God before anything else. Things have happened in my life which makes me feel the way I do. I dont look down on you or anyone else for feeling differently. And i have to admire you for feeling as strongly as you do on this subject.
I think the chances of Ronaldo leaving this summer are nil. That's not to say he doesn't want to go, I just can't see us selling, as a point of principle - Fergie and co won't want to go back on the strong words they've already issued, and they won't want to see Madrid ride roughshod over us. I don't think we'd actually have him rot in the reserves, although I could see Fergie giving him the odd bit of discipline Beckham in the stands vs Leeds style. He'd simply have to get on with things. I don't think he'd give any less than his best for us
Quite how firmly the supporters are behind him will depend entirely on his conduct from here. If he does come out and say he wants to be at Madrid this summer, I still don't think it will happen, and things could be a little hostile initially
Quite how firmly the supporters are behind him will depend entirely on his conduct from here. If he does come out and say he wants to be at Madrid this summer, I still don't think it will happen, and things could be a little hostile initially
feck OFF RONALDOOOOOOO
feck OFF RONALDOOOOOOO
RUNNING DOWN THE WING
HEAR UNITED SING
feck OFF RONALDOOOOOOO!!!!!
sick and tired of this crap
feck OFF RONALDOOOOOOO
RUNNING DOWN THE WING
HEAR UNITED SING
feck OFF RONALDOOOOOOO!!!!!
sick and tired of this crap
This is the interview with Terra interviewer.......
Has the Terra interview been verified or not? On page 76 we had decided it was made up. Still the case?
But the caf will have long since crashed and burned if it goes on til then, unable to support the hoards sitting here and pressing F5 every two minutes to see what new and refreshing incite has been offered by a fellow cafer.
And how, I ask you, will we all cope then?
It's been verified by the interviewer
The Guardian, Times, Telegraph and Independent believe it.
Nobody's seen Ronaldo say "Read my lips"
he's off next year.
The terra interview is bullshit I think. Why would he make his announcement to a brazillian paper/website? I would rather believe his mother saying he's staying. He's a mama's boy after all you know?
Can someone fill me in on the last 11 hours?
I went to bed as the Terra story started popping up everywhere.
I went to bed as the Terra story started popping up everywhere.
Ah..everything is still shady then.It's been verified by the interviewer
The Guardian, Times, Telegraph and Independent believe it.
Nobody's seen Ronaldo say "Read my lips"
Best thing to do is to avoid the press till august then.
You're off to the space station then?
Well i don't know about the rest of you but i've got a week at a villa in Crete in the third week of July.
Excellent article here from the Independent...all in a nutshell for those who've missed the last 30 pages or so.
Ronaldo stuns United by saying: 'Let me go to Real'
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By Ian Herbert and Steve Tongue in Neuchatel
Friday, 6 June 2008
Getty Images
Ronaldo focuses on football rather than his future during training yesterday
The clearest indication yet that Cristiano Ronaldo has set his heart on leaving Manchester United for Real Madrid emerged yesterday when the player effectively told the Spanish side to pay the asking price to release him.
Ronaldo's apparent first open discussion of his future, with a Madrid-based Brazilian journalist currently in Switzerland, has delivered the first direct suggestion from the player himself that he wants to leave. "I would like to play for Real Madrid but only if it's true they are ready to pay what Manchester United ask of them," Ronaldo said. "However, it does not depend on me. From today I'm not going to talk about this topic with anyone at all. I'll only talk about this again after the European Championships. Don't ask me about it again because I won't answer."
The words were provided on Wednesday night to Julio Filho, a Madrid-based journalist for the Brazilian website, Terra, who is known to be close to Acaz Fellegger, the agent of Portugal national manager Luis Felipe Scolari. One theory in Portugal is that Scolari encouraged their publication, in order to get the subject dealt with before Portugal's opening game in the tournament, in Geneva tomorrow. Filho, a mainstream journalist, also works for the official Uefa website.
Last weekend Ronaldo promised his decision by Tuesday or Wednesday and the issue of his future with United seems to be coming to a head in precisely the timeframe he has been predicting for several weeks. There is a suggestion in some quarters that the player was infuriated by Sir Alex Ferguson's suggestions, last week, that the Glazer family are prepared to let the player "sit in the stand" rather than leave United for Real.
One report suggests this has contributed to an unwillingness on the player's part to meet Ferguson at Portugal's training camp to discuss the situation – despite a willingness on the part of Scolari to receive the United manager. Ferguson and his assistant flew to Switzerland to talk to him after he was involved in Wayne Rooney's sending-off for England at the last World Cup.
Since United – who were last night maintaining their stance that Ronaldo will remain at the club for the foreseeable future – say they are not prepared to sell at any price, the player's comments do not necessarily make his departure imminent. But they are storing up a profoundly difficult period for the club when Ronaldo returns to Manchester – after United's pre-season tour of South Africa and Nigeria, should Portugal progress beyond the Euro 2008 quarter-finals.
Ronaldo's mother, Dolores, did little to clear up the picture when, at Lisbon airport on her way to out to Portugal to see her son play in the tournament yesterday, she said: "He should stay in Manchester." The player's Spanish girlfriend said this week she was confused about his intentions.
Madrid's president, Ramon Calderon, having publicly declared on Monday that they could do nothing about a transfer if United did not wish to sell, will now be encouraged to offer a world record fee – £64m is a figure which many in Spain believe Real are prepared to pay – and test the resolve of the English champions to keep a player who scored 42 goals last season as they won the Premier League and Champions League.
Ferguson will certainly not be enjoying his holiday in France as much as he should on the back of those triumphs. He is already furious about Real's attempts to destabilise his player through a series of leaks to the Madrid-based daily sports newspaper Marca.
Ferguson's mood will certainly not have been improved when former United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy – who left Old Trafford under a cloud – suggested his old team-mate should join him at Real. Van Nistelrooy said: "For Madrid it would be a very important signing because it is a club that signs the best players in the world and that is what he is. Cristiano can give so many things to the team. He is young and he has everything."
Ferguson considers United to be victims of a Real conspiracy. "It's intimidation of us," he said recently. "We've reported it, but Fifa don't bother. Real are so powerful and it's become accepted. Believe me, he will not be leaving here in the next two years at least. No question."
Ronaldo has not given a press conference since Portugal arrived at their training camp to prepare for tomorrow's match against Turkey and he will not appear today, when Scolari and Nuno Gomes will inevitably be questioned about the issue.
A Portuguese Football Association spokesman clashed yesterday with a British journalist who dared to raise the issue. "We're here to prepare for the European Championship and these are club affairs," the spokesman said. "If you ask me if this is having any effect on the team I'd have to say no. He is training with a lot of joy."
Ronaldo did appear to be enjoying himself on the Neuchatel Xamax pitch yesterday evening. While he was training, Gilberto Madail, president of the Portugese FA, said: "Our problem is to have the best of Ronaldo at Euro 2008. Ronaldo is a big boy. He thinks for himself."
Ronaldo stuns United by saying: 'Let me go to Real'
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By Ian Herbert and Steve Tongue in Neuchatel
Friday, 6 June 2008
Getty Images
Ronaldo focuses on football rather than his future during training yesterday
enlargeThe clearest indication yet that Cristiano Ronaldo has set his heart on leaving Manchester United for Real Madrid emerged yesterday when the player effectively told the Spanish side to pay the asking price to release him.
Ronaldo's apparent first open discussion of his future, with a Madrid-based Brazilian journalist currently in Switzerland, has delivered the first direct suggestion from the player himself that he wants to leave. "I would like to play for Real Madrid but only if it's true they are ready to pay what Manchester United ask of them," Ronaldo said. "However, it does not depend on me. From today I'm not going to talk about this topic with anyone at all. I'll only talk about this again after the European Championships. Don't ask me about it again because I won't answer."
The words were provided on Wednesday night to Julio Filho, a Madrid-based journalist for the Brazilian website, Terra, who is known to be close to Acaz Fellegger, the agent of Portugal national manager Luis Felipe Scolari. One theory in Portugal is that Scolari encouraged their publication, in order to get the subject dealt with before Portugal's opening game in the tournament, in Geneva tomorrow. Filho, a mainstream journalist, also works for the official Uefa website.
Last weekend Ronaldo promised his decision by Tuesday or Wednesday and the issue of his future with United seems to be coming to a head in precisely the timeframe he has been predicting for several weeks. There is a suggestion in some quarters that the player was infuriated by Sir Alex Ferguson's suggestions, last week, that the Glazer family are prepared to let the player "sit in the stand" rather than leave United for Real.
One report suggests this has contributed to an unwillingness on the player's part to meet Ferguson at Portugal's training camp to discuss the situation – despite a willingness on the part of Scolari to receive the United manager. Ferguson and his assistant flew to Switzerland to talk to him after he was involved in Wayne Rooney's sending-off for England at the last World Cup.
Since United – who were last night maintaining their stance that Ronaldo will remain at the club for the foreseeable future – say they are not prepared to sell at any price, the player's comments do not necessarily make his departure imminent. But they are storing up a profoundly difficult period for the club when Ronaldo returns to Manchester – after United's pre-season tour of South Africa and Nigeria, should Portugal progress beyond the Euro 2008 quarter-finals.
Ronaldo's mother, Dolores, did little to clear up the picture when, at Lisbon airport on her way to out to Portugal to see her son play in the tournament yesterday, she said: "He should stay in Manchester." The player's Spanish girlfriend said this week she was confused about his intentions.
Madrid's president, Ramon Calderon, having publicly declared on Monday that they could do nothing about a transfer if United did not wish to sell, will now be encouraged to offer a world record fee – £64m is a figure which many in Spain believe Real are prepared to pay – and test the resolve of the English champions to keep a player who scored 42 goals last season as they won the Premier League and Champions League.
Ferguson will certainly not be enjoying his holiday in France as much as he should on the back of those triumphs. He is already furious about Real's attempts to destabilise his player through a series of leaks to the Madrid-based daily sports newspaper Marca.
Ferguson's mood will certainly not have been improved when former United striker Ruud van Nistelrooy – who left Old Trafford under a cloud – suggested his old team-mate should join him at Real. Van Nistelrooy said: "For Madrid it would be a very important signing because it is a club that signs the best players in the world and that is what he is. Cristiano can give so many things to the team. He is young and he has everything."
Ferguson considers United to be victims of a Real conspiracy. "It's intimidation of us," he said recently. "We've reported it, but Fifa don't bother. Real are so powerful and it's become accepted. Believe me, he will not be leaving here in the next two years at least. No question."
Ronaldo has not given a press conference since Portugal arrived at their training camp to prepare for tomorrow's match against Turkey and he will not appear today, when Scolari and Nuno Gomes will inevitably be questioned about the issue.
A Portuguese Football Association spokesman clashed yesterday with a British journalist who dared to raise the issue. "We're here to prepare for the European Championship and these are club affairs," the spokesman said. "If you ask me if this is having any effect on the team I'd have to say no. He is training with a lot of joy."
Ronaldo did appear to be enjoying himself on the Neuchatel Xamax pitch yesterday evening. While he was training, Gilberto Madail, president of the Portugese FA, said: "Our problem is to have the best of Ronaldo at Euro 2008. Ronaldo is a big boy. He thinks for himself."
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