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I understand jason's point. United are playing hard ball with his contract he just signed for 120,000 marbles a week. They have adamantly said, no new deal (at this time). The marble signs in Ronaldo's eyes have been switched on by his winning all these awards and accolades and he now beleives he needs more marbles. United won't be pressured and I'm sure his agent has been pissed off with this and has stirred up all this in order to get United to spring out the old marble box.
I personally think that Ronaldo should be the best paid player in the world as he is at the richest club and he is the BPITW. No problem with that. But why he just doesn't come out and say that is beyond me.
 
If he wants to leave, let him leave. I don't have a problem with that, we are much bigger than Ronaldo, that much is obvious. The problem I think we have is the fee he leaves for, Beckham paid off his 28 million transfer fee in the first year at Real Madrid.

The EPL is far bigger now than it was then, and although fans around the world are not as fanatical about Ronaldo as they were about Beckham; I bet Ronaldo makes more money due to the more people that watch football these day's, and the sums are only going to increase with the rise in popularity in the east.

So not only are Real Madrid purchasing the best player in the world, they will also make tons of money, increase their chances of winning things and also win over their supporters and attract new supporters while doing so, they can't lose. All these factors should command a huge fee, and the talked about 70 million is the bottom end of what I feel we should be accepting with the current time on his contract. Preferably 75 million with future incintives for us based on Real's success would be a deal we should only start to consider.

I think Ronaldo isnt a complete enough player for us to say we have a strong dependance on him. Ronaldo only got 6 assist's this season in the EPL and his main contribution has been putting the ball in the back of the net, by him leaving I don't think we lose much creativity, we certainly lose product and effectiveness because we lose the goals he scores, but I'm sure SAF will get a player to put the finishing touch on things.

I think we have more dependance on Rooney than Ronaldo, when Rooney doesnt play we don't look co-ordinated as a team, and we make less chances and struggle at ball retention all over the pitch not just the final third. While Ronaldo is perhaps our best and most effective player, he doesnt make the team tick like some players in our current team do, or like King Eric did, we managed to get over Cantona, we will definitely manage to get over Ronaldo, In a playing sense anyway. Some of the ladies might shed a tear and we might lose some "fans" due to him leaving but who cares about them.

We have seen some huge players over the years leave, get old, retire.. who have been far more important to the team than Ronaldo can ever be. If he goe's though he will be missed, it goes with out saying, but we will still succeed with this group of players and a few additions, as usual.
 
Fergie seems to have made it clear that he won't sell Ronaldo this summer. The trouble is, Fergie is so good at mind games that nobody knows whether to believe what he says any more.
 
Well thats how i see it anyway. Who knows, i may be made to eat my words at the end of all this..

This also assumes that the quotes (whoever posted it on page 83/84), were genuine

Ah feck, someone actually has said all that I said before me.

Here it is, anyhow.

http://www.manchesterunited.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=110467

For all of you out there waking up (presumably very very drunk)to the news that Ronaldo MAY leave; let me put your mind at ease.

Now credit here must go to the editor over at www.redcafe.net; who has published the full post-match interviews Ronaldo gave in which he repeatedly said he wanted to stay next season, something most media sources have inexplicably left out.

Below are the full transcripts of the Interviews cited from https://www.redcafe.net/f6/transcript-ronaldos-interviews-after-cl-final-204041/

TV interview with BBC after the match and celebrations on the pitch

BBC TV presenter : Are you going to stay at Man United or are the rumours about you going to Real Madrid, are they true?
CR : I stay.

Radio interview with BBC after the match and celebrations on the pitch but before the TV interview

BBC Radio interviewer: Winning the Champions league..(muttering...).
CR : Of course, you know, this club has the opportunity to win everything. We show this season we are a great team, we are the best team in Europe, in the Premier league and next season we try to do the same again

Interviewer: Can you assure Manchester United supporters that you will be here next season?
CR : Say again?

Interviewer: Can you assure...you know, can you promise Manchester United supporters that you will be with them next season?

CR (laughing): I never promise nothing. I dont promise nothing to my mum...I dont promise nothing to the supporters

Interviewer: But, but, when you say I want...
CR (cutting off the interviewer): I want to stay, i want to stay, really...Its OK, i want to stay. But the future no one knows, but I want to stay.

Interviewer : But does there have to be a new contract or something like that?
CR : I dont know nothing..Nobody speak with me...eh...We are going to see next two weeks, OK?

Interviewer: But when you say, 'I will make a decision'....i mean...that means that?
CR (cutting off the interviewer): I dont say ' I will make a decision..I dont say...I dont say that...Its the the club take the decision... I dont know...I think...I dont know..'

It must also be noted that in a television interview with ITV after the game Ronaldo was asked the same question; to which he answered 'No, no, no. I`m going to stay', before going to join the celebrations with his colleges.

So all in all, its very very positve. I have always said he will stay, and this has mearly cemented that theory for me; regardless of the media's agenda to drive the brightest talents out of our league. But this shouldnt be a day of worrying, Ronaldo's staying, we've just won the Double, HAPPY DAYS!!!
 
I personally think that Ronaldo should be the best paid player in the world as he is at the richest club and he is the BPITW. No problem with that. But why he just doesn't come out and say that is beyond me.

i personally think players should not be immoral in the sense that playing football is just a job! Imagine Scholes and Giggs in their hay days threatening to leave for more money? (they would have got more, but they have morals and love of the club!)

He knows he will look bad just asking for more money! Greedy cnut!
 
If he wants to leave, let him leave. I don't have a problem with that, we are much bigger than Ronaldo, that much is obvious. The problem I think we have is the fee he leaves for, Beckham paid off his 28 million transfer fee in the first year at Real Madrid.

The EPL is far bigger now than it was then, and although fans around the world are not as fanatical about Ronaldo as they were about Beckham; I bet Ronaldo makes more money due to the more people that watch football these day's, and the sums are only going to increase with the rise in popularity in the east.

So not only are Real Madrid purchasing the best player in the world, they will also make tons of money, increase their chances of winning things and also win over their supporters and attract new supporters while doing so, they can't lose. All these factors should command a huge fee, and the talked about 70 million is the bottom end of what I feel we should be accepting with the current time on his contract. Preferably 75 million with future incintives for us based on Real's success would be a deal we should only start to consider.

I think Ronaldo isnt a complete enough player for us to say we have a strong dependance on him. Ronaldo only got 6 assist's this season in the EPL and his main contribution has been putting the ball in the back of the net, by him leaving I don't think we lose much creativity, we certainly lose product and effectiveness because we lose the goals he scores, but I'm sure SAF will get a player to put the finishing touch on things.

I think we have more dependance on Rooney than Ronaldo, when Rooney doesnt play we don't look co-ordinated as a team, and we make less chances and struggle at ball retention all over the pitch not just the final third. While Ronaldo is perhaps our best and most effective player, he doesnt make the team tick like some players in our current team do, or like King Eric did, we managed to get over Cantona, we will definitely manage to get over Ronaldo, In a playing sense anyway. Some of the ladies might shed a tear and we might lose a some "fans" due to him leaving but who cares about them.

We have seen some huge players over the years leave, get old, retire.. who have been far more important to the team than Ronaldo can ever be. If he goe's though he will be missed, it goes with out saying but we will still succeed with this group of players and a few additions, as usual.
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Next person to say "He is staying END OF" or "He is going END OF" in response to the next bit on non-news earns a 2 day ban.

Now you have to guess if I'm serious or not :)
 
I do love how people who were on the verge of wanking over Ronaldo are now saying Rooney is more important. I guess Pogue was right about people on messageboards underrating players when they leave or look like they are about to leave the club.
 
Next person to say "He is staying END OF" or "He is going END OF" in response to the next bit on non-news earns a 2 day ban.

Now you have to guess if I'm serious or not :)
:) That's why I keep posting "So he's staying then. Great" or "So he is leaving, then?" when folks come out with those definitive statements. Gotta giggle.
 
and we're only just into June ffs

While we're at it we may as well make it a record thread...

Why not? If we just have not too many pages, when the final outcome comes, it'll just be wasted time, and pages.

At least if this becomes massive and world record in terms of posts, it'll have been worthwhile..

Keep it coming, lads!!!!!!!
 
I do love how people who were on the verge of wanking over Ronaldo are now saying Rooney is more important. I guess Pogue was right about people on messageboards underrating players when they leave or look like they are about to leave the club.

I have never wanked over Ronaldo. I have always said players like Messi and Kaka to name a few are better than him. Ronaldo doesnt have the vision or release the ball quick enough to be a true great like say Zidane, ect. Ronaldo depends more on the players he plays with to supply him with the ball to justify his best player in the world status. Current player's like Kaka, Rooney and Messi to name some, make team's play great football, Ronaldo doesn't. Thank's for make a huge generalisation though. It doesnt make you look like a narrow minded simpleton in the least.
 
The Times seem to be taken in with the story from Terra.......

Ronaldo comes clean: I want Real move

· Winger goes public with desire for Bernabéu switch
Old Trafford ready to resist expected £78m record bid
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Cristiano Ronaldo has issued a come and get me plea to Real Madrid. Photograph: Patrick Hertzog/AFP/Getty Images

Cristiano Ronaldo delivered the news that Manchester United had been dreading last night when the world's most coveted footballer publicly declared that he wanted to leave the Champions League winners to join Real Madrid.
After several weeks of conflicting messages, broken promises and cryptic interviews, Ronaldo finally put an end to his prevaricating with a statement, released through the Brazilian website Terra, making no bones about the fact that his decision was financially motivated.
Real Madrid have promised to pay him a weekly salary in excess of £200,000, earning him around £12m a year, leaving Ronaldo and his agent, Jorge Mendes, to work on the best strategy of letting the football world know of his intentions.
"I want to play for Real Madrid, but only if it is true they are eager to pay me and Manchester United what they have been saying they will," said Ronaldo. "However, it does not depend on me."
That last sentence amounts to a public plea for United to relent on their previously immovable stance of refusing to entertain the idea of selling their most prized asset. The indications from Old Trafford last night, however, were that the club would not be willing to admit defeat without a considerable fight, with Sir Alex Ferguson willing to break off from a holiday in France and the chief executive, David Gill, insisting the club would not be backed into a corner, even in the face of a world-record bid of around £78m .
"Our position on Ronaldo remains as set out last week," said Gill, referring to Ferguson's insistence that the club would rather let the player rot in the reserves than do business with a club that, in their eyes, has brazenly flouted transfer rules and etiquette.
Those comments, it emerged last night, have gone down badly with Ronaldo, who seems to believe that United's gratitude for his contribution over the past two seasons, when he has scooped just about every footballer of the year award going, should be enough to allow him to fulfil his "dream" of playing at the Bernabéu. The 23-year-old, speaking from Portugal's Euro 2008 training camp in the Swiss city of Neuchâtel, was originally scheduled to meet the media today, although that is likely to be changed now, with Ronaldo insisting that he will not discuss the matter again until after the tournament.
"It is important to send a message," he said. "From now on, though, I will not talk again about this until the end of the European Championship. It is not worth asking me because I will not reply."
United's initial reaction was of shock - no one at Old Trafford had been informed of Ronaldo's intention to make a statement - but that quickly gave way to anger, and a crushing sense of disappointment, as they set about establishing the authenticity of the quotes. Why Ronaldo should choose a Brazilian website to declare his decision is a mystery but Terra has a good reputation and, importantly, when Mendes was asked last night whether there was anything inaccurate to correct he chose against it.
Ferguson's reaction is, as yet, unknown, although it is safe to assume the manager is crestfallen at the latest developments. The same will apply to United's fanbase, although many supporters had already become resigned to this happening, with Ronaldo making so many transparent attempts to woo the Spanish media before changing his story when in the earshot of English journalists.
The question now is whether United stay true to their word and refuse to let player pressure affect their decision. Ferguson has spoken highly about the club's owners, the Glazers, recently and this, in many ways, will be one of the biggest challenges the Americans have faced since taking over the club three years ago. Real clearly believe they have the money to be able to finance the deal and it remains to be seen whether the Glazers can turn that down. If, however, United dig in their heels, the alternative is keeping hold of a player who has made it clear he no longer wishes to be a part of Ferguson's team and that, in turn, throws up the possibility of Ronaldo refusing to return to Manchester.
Ferguson's usual policy when he believes a player wants to leave - as seen when Ruud van Nistelrooy was sold to Madrid in 2006 - is not to stand in their way, but Ronaldo's sale would be a devastating blow to the club's hopes of establishing themselves as the best team in Europe over the next few years. By backing down, United also stand to lose face and, for the self-styled biggest club in the world, there might be no amount of money that can make up for that
 
I do love how people who were on the verge of wanking over Ronaldo are now saying Rooney is more important.

Agree. If that were true Rooney would be the one in contention for the player awards. Goalscoring, cutting edge forwards like Ronaldo are the most sought after players in football.
 
Calderon knows he can't get Ronaldo this summer so he's stirring shit through his media-slaves marca, promising 100mil pounds and 300 000 per week for Ronaldo, acting big and tough.

Suddenly he's backing off like little girl, scared of the prospect United might reconsider. Because if we reconsider he'll be in deep shit, he'd need to sell his shithole Bernabeu and probably his family to finance this move and Ronaldo's salary.

Now he tries everything to put down the fire and brings in Ronnie's mother into the circus.
 
The Guardian too seems to have no problem with the Terra quotes.........

United hold all the cards as Real play dangerous game

Ferguson can refuse to sell Ronaldo or demand a record fee from a club that cannot stop now
Last week Real Madrid's president, Ramón Calderón, told the club's board of directors that their work was done and the ball was in Cristiano Ronaldo's court. Last night the Portuguese returned it with interest by making his long-awaited public declaration of intent. But while Calderón appeared to have brought matters to the perfect point, there is still a third party to consider: Manchester United. Like many a soap opera the ending may be predictable but the plot has some way to run. Its final denouement will require a monstrous fee that could climb to €98m (£78m).
When Calderón spoke to the board, he informed them Real had spoken to the agent Jorge Mendes about signing his client. An agreement was close, now all they could do was wait - and brief the Madrid press, who fostered a climate they considered conducive to his signing. The sports daily As happily claimed it had "created" a "state of excitement" that was "useful to the player and to Madrid". Its counterpart Marca, the newspaper attacked by Sir Alex Ferguson, would second that. The truth may prove to be rather different.
Yesterday, the wait for Ronaldo finally ended. With his admission that he wants to join Real Madrid "if it's true that they are eager to pay me and United what they have said", his departure from Old Trafford drew nearer. He took the next step along the familiar path Madrid trod in signing Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldo and David Beckham: speak to the player, leak to the press, encourage the player to speak out and force an unwilling seller into a corner.
The process has reached its endgame and Madrid can afford to be satisfied for now. But it may yet be the Spanish club who find themselves forced into a corner - certainly if the threats of Ferguson and Carlos Queiroz are not empty. Both sides are playing a risky game. Dealing with a furious Ferguson will be difficult and negotiating with a player whose only public condition was to insist that Madrid match the dizzying figures being bandied about will not be cheap.
Ultimately, Ronaldo's public desire to depart is likely to be the deciding factor but Ferguson is not the wounded prey Madrid would like. Nor is he the willing seller they could count upon in the past. Ferguson claimed last week that United sold Ruud van Nistelrooy and Beckham to Madrid "because they wanted to" and there was an element of truth in it. This time he has no intention of selling. Unless the price is colossal.
Madrid's position is not so strong as on previous occasions under the former president Florentino Pérez. Madrid allowed Juventus, Internazionale and United to believe that they could walk away from deals if needs be. Now, unlike before, it is United who apparently stand to gain from a collapsed deal. Ferguson has already answered the threat of being lumbered with an unhappy player by insisting he will leave Ronaldo in the stands if necessary.
Stung by Ferguson's recent evocation of General Franco and Queiroz's rekindling of Iberian border disputes, Calderón took a step back. On Monday, he insisted that "not signing Ronaldo would not be a failure". The problem is that a failure is exactly what it would be. And United know it. Having missed out on his electoral promises, Kaka and Cesc Fábregas, having laid so much on the line for Ronaldo, and given his perpetual search for legitimacy after winning a disputed election, Calderón simply cannot fail to get his man. Whatever the cost.
All the more so as he has already spoken to creditors about financing the deal and his right-hand man at Real has publicly insisted: "We have the money to sign any deal we want." There have been suggestions of a fee as high as €98m or an offer involving players as significant as Sergio Ramos and Robinho and a salary almost twice that earned at Old Trafford. The figures may only be rumours but by insisting that he would go "if" his suitors match the kind of figures being thrown about "for me and United", Ronaldo last night effectively forced them to do exactly that.
United will surely do likewise. Madrid may get their man, but it could be a Portuguese and a Scot who are laughing all the way to the bank.
 
I do love how people who were on the verge of wanking over Ronaldo are now saying Rooney is more important. I guess Pogue was right about people on messageboards underrating players when they leave or look like they are about to leave the club.

Yea it makes me laugh too.
 
"Ronaldo Departure Imminent" says Scolari

SUN EXCLUSIVE by Shaun Custis 06/06/2008

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1253267.ece

The news that will rock the fans of Manchester United is inevitable according to Portugal manager and ex-England manager candidate, Luiz Felipe Scolari. 42 goal hitman Ronaldo, who is said to be unhappy with the actions of the media and also his own club manager, is said to have confessed to the Portugal manager that Madrid is his favoured destination and also that he hopes his demands can be met after the European Championships.

"Cristiano is unhappy with the current situation at Manchester (United). Real Madrid want Ronaldo, and Ronaldo wants Real Madrid but the club and also the owners in particular are making this an impossible ordeal," Scolari explained.

"I am also hoping for a favourable outcome in regards to the situation as it may have a negative effect on the team. Until Ronaldo himself told me of the situation, i felt that this was the main aim of the Spanish media."

Speaking ahead of Portugal's match against Turkey, Scolari's comments are sure to have disturbed the Manchester United camp, yet it seems the only alternative for Alex Ferguson is to simply plan what to do with the money he will receive from the transfer. AC Milan star Kaka and Lyon forward, Karim Benzema, are said to be on Sir Alex Ferguson's wish list. Despite the club's resilliance, club insiders have made it clear that it will be difficult to resist an offer greater than that shelled out for Zinedine Zidane in 2001. Such a fee is likely to soften the debt entailed with the Glazer's arrival despite their apparent unwillingness to sell.
 
The Telegraph backs Fergie...............

Cristiano Ronaldo in line for a fight with Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United


By Mark Ogden

Last Updated: 12:27am BST 06/06/2008

Cristiano Ronaldo's courage and refusal to be intimidated by any opponent were just two of the reasons Sir Alex Ferguson barely blinked when paying £12.26 million to sign the then-unheralded 17-year-old from Sporting Lisbon in the immediate aftermath of David Beckham's transfer from Manchester United to Real Madrid five years ago.

Ronaldo's breathtaking confidence, revealed in a pre-season friendly against United in Lisbon that summer, prompted Ferguson to sign the youngster and immediately give him the No 7 shirt vacated by Beckham. It was a sink-or-swim challenge to Ronaldo, but it was one that he passed with flying colours.
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Asking for trouble: Cristiano Ronaldo faces the ultimate test if he chooses to take on Sir Alex Ferguson

Ferguson demands confidence, courage and bravery from the players he selects to play for United, but Ronaldo's qualities will now face the ultimate test in the coming weeks if he chooses to take on his manager in an effort to secure a move from Old Trafford to Real Madrid.
Ronaldo might be a strong-minded individual with a clear sense of his destiny and position among the pantheon of footballing greats, but few come more stubborn in a battle of wills than Ferguson. There is only likely to be one winner if Ronaldo versus Ferguson emerges as the pivotal play this summer.
The United manager has done business with Real in the past, most notably when he sold Beckham in 2003, but nobody leaves Old Trafford against his wishes.
Paul Ince might have engineered his transfer from Old Trafford to Inter Milan in the summer of 1995, but Ferguson had grown tired of the midfielder's self-appointed billing as the 'Guv'nor'. He also had Beckham and Nicky Butt emerging through the ranks to fill the void left by the departing Ince.

Dwight Yorke, a cornerstone of United's Treble success in 1999, was forced to endure reserve-team football at Bury's Gigg Lane after falling foul of Ferguson prior to his move to Blackburn in 2002, so the manager's claim that the Glazer family, United's owners, would happily see Ronaldo sitting in the stands rather than wearing the white of Real might not be as outlandish as it initially appears.
Madrid's continuous efforts to lure Ronaldo continue, despite president Ramon Calderon's claims last week that signing the player would be "impossible" and that no more words would be uttered from Madrid on the matter.
Ruud van Nistelrooy, whose United career ended after a training-ground confrontation with Ronaldo, appeared to deviate from the official Madrid stance yesterday by inviting his former team-mate to join him in the Spanish capital.
He said: "Ronaldo would be an important signing for Madrid because this is a club which signs the best players in the world, and that's what Cristiano is.
"Cristiano could bring a lot of things to this club. He's young, he has everything and a long sporting career ahead of him. For Madrid he would be a great signing."
Flattering, perhaps, for Ronaldo, but every word that emerges from Madrid is only likely to add to Ferguson's determination."
 
A few weeks ago...

Choose anybody but Ronaldo, nobody can be compared to Ronaldo. Foolish statement. :smirk:

Now...

I have never wanked over Ronaldo. I have always said players like Messi and Kaka to name a few are better than him. Ronaldo doesnt have the vision or release the ball quick enough to be a true great like say Zidane, ect. Ronaldo depends more on the players he plays with to supply him with the ball to justify his best player in the world status.

Yep I am sorry I made such a huge generalisation. But you are right not everyone was like how I said a few people are.
 
Next person to say "He is staying END OF" or "He is going END OF" in response to the next bit on non-news earns a 2 day ban.

Now you have to guess if I'm serious or not :)

AAAAAHHHHH HES SERIOUS. I CANT TAKE IT MAN, I CANT TAKE IT.










end of
 
Scolari himself wants Ronaldo out of here as that's what he'd said earlier and with a lucrative Chelski job on offer, I'm sure he'd rather Ronaldo at Madrid, that fat cnut.
 
Ferguson not welcome here, says Ronaldo
The Times, Friday 6th June
Matt Hughes Neuchâtel, Switzerland

Cristiano Ronaldo’s faltering relationship with Sir Alex Ferguson appeared to deteriorate further yesterday when the Portugal winger effectively banned the Manchester United manager from visiting his country’s European Championship training camp.

In an embarrassing snub, Ronaldo has told team-mates that Ferguson is not welcome in Switzerland, bringing a premature end to proposals for peace talks that surfaced in the light of his continued flirtation with Real Madrid.

Ferguson had reservations about travelling to the university town of Neuchâtel in any case, with the United manager reluctant to show his concern at Real’s interest and uneasy about intruding into the sphere of Luiz Felipe Scolari, the Portugal coach, but Ronaldo’s stance has brought an end to the matter.

The 23-year-old’s intransigence springs from anger at Ferguson’s comments last weekend that the Glazer family would rather see him sit in the stands than sell him to Real. Ronaldo is understood to be furious at this perceived slight, but Ferguson was merely responding to the player’s frequent expressions of admiration for Real.

Ronaldo’s mood is all the more frustrating for Ferguson because Scolari had indicated that he would be welcome to visit the player at the Portugal training base. The Brazilian has long been an admirer of Ferguson and the pair share a mutual respect. He also wonders whether Ronaldo is in the right frame of mind for the Euro 2008 campaign, which begins against Turkey in Geneva tomorrow.
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Absolutely zero quotes, yet the Times lead with this story. All this Ronaldo business is really being milked by a gleeful press.
 
Has Ronaldo left yet? And whens Kaka and Benzema having their medicals done?

Breaking news is that these moves are on hold i'm afraid. We've agreed the fees with Milan and Lyon, but stumbling block is now the fee with Madrid for Ronnie. If we can't get the money we demand for Ronnie, then we can't finance these bids and will have to pull out.

Now I know we want cock out time, but if Ronnie doesn't go, and for the right money, our moves for these two are dead. We'd better move fast - with Chelsea right on those two if we feck up. Smells of Ronaldinho/Robben once again.

Sigh...this summer, so promising, yet so messy. I hope this gets sorted out ASAP.
 
Has Ronaldo left yet? And whens Kaka and Benzema having their medicals done?

Kaka at 9:15 tomorrow, Benzema at 17:05. Benzema doesn't like waking up early so that is why his medical is later.
 
"Ronaldo Departure Imminent" says Scolari

SUN EXCLUSIVE by Shaun Custis 06/06/2008

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article1253267.ece

The news that will rock the fans of Manchester United is inevitable according to Portugal manager and ex-England manager candidate, Luiz Felipe Scolari. 42 goal hitman Ronaldo, who is said to be unhappy with the actions of the media and also his own club manager, is said to have confessed to the Portugal manager that Madrid is his favoured destination and also that he hopes his demands can be met after the European Championships.

"Cristiano is unhappy with the current situation at Manchester (United). Real Madrid want Ronaldo, and Ronaldo wants Real Madrid but the club and also the owners in particular are making this an impossible ordeal," Scolari explained.

"I am also hoping for a favourable outcome in regards to the situation as it may have a negative effect on the team. Until Ronaldo himself told me of the situation, i felt that this was the main aim of the Spanish media."

Speaking ahead of Portugal's match against Turkey, Scolari's comments are sure to have disturbed the Manchester United camp, yet it seems the only alternative for Alex Ferguson is to simply plan what to do with the money he will receive from the transfer. AC Milan star Kaka and Lyon forward, Karim Benzema, are said to be on Sir Alex Ferguson's wish list. Despite the club's resilliance, club insiders have made it clear that it will be difficult to resist an offer greater than that shelled out for Zinedine Zidane in 2001. Such a fee is likely to soften the debt entailed with the Glazer's arrival despite their apparent unwillingness to sell.


The link doesn't work, another fecking wind up!
 
A few weeks ago...



Now...



Yep I am sorry I made such a huge generalisation. But you are right not everyone was like how I said a few people are.

Look at the smiley.. (It wasn't serious) God help us all.

Jesus, you carry a grudge on an internet forum, which was a joke.. that's low.

It was jest and sarcasm ffs..

To clear it up.. I though you might need a poke for comparing Ramsey to Ronaldo, which I thought was absurd.

How does Ramsey compare to Ronaldo, except for the fact that hes young, human, has 2 eyes, 2 legs, 2 arms and can play football? Don't answer that question.
 
Oh dear, the Ronaldometer's freaking out again, must ave been those beans......

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If only we had an inside line to the goldfish, then we might know something conclusive. ;)


More seriously, the key player in all this is Jorge Mendes. His ability or lack of it to persuade Real Madrid to part with a world record breaking sum of money, and keeping Ronaldo from being in a room with Fergie for any length of time.

We should expect to see rumours of the genuine offers that Real have in mind some time in the next week or thereabouts.
 
from the quote with ronaldo saying he is happy to go to madrid if they pay him and united what they say they will, signs arent too discouraging imo.

tbh i think ronaldo would be happy enough to play at united for at least one more season, maybe two. if he turns round and says he wants to leave no matter what then we'd lose a lot in transfer value. if he's saying (which from all the quotes direct from ronaldo so far seems to be the case) that he is more than happy at united but if real offer him, say, 300k a week and united a figure of 70 mil plus and united accept that, he would happily go. if united reject that - then it's decision time.

personally, if we were to reject a bid of 70 odd mil (or even anything above 50, or whatever tbh), and ferguson and querioz spoke to ronaldo, i think he'll be here next year. i think people have forgotten that ronaldo has a very strong relationship with saf and carlos. the media are now saying that they've had a falling out but there's nothing to show for this - the last time they were together in public was the champions league final pretty much and ferguson and ronaldo did not look as though they had a tense relationship. certainly not like beckham and ferguson. in fact, they looked genuinely close, or as close as a manager and player would be.

i have no idea what will happen, though my hunch is that we wont sell. if we sell for anything less than 60 its ridiculous and i'd be disappointed with less than 70.

as a last thought, having read a fair bit of this thread. there's a lot of blase and narrow minded reds out there who, hopefully, in a few weeks will have egg on their faces. not so much in those getting annoyed at the relative silence but amongst those criticising ronaldo and fast forgetting the contribution he has made and could still make in the future.

if ronaldo left i would personally miss him a lot. yeah we could go and buy replacements to a degree, and i have no doubt we would continue to challenge as we have whenever we've lost important players, but this guy is special and if he does leave i hope we dont dismiss that. what he did against villa, pompey and on countless other occasions in the last 24 months has been beautiful to watch and, to be honest, he's probably conjured up more moments of sheer genius in that time than most united players do in their careers. i just hope he stays.
 
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