robthered
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no worries. hey we might think different but we're still united fans. If no one gave a shit football wouldn't be worth watching. Let's just see what transpires first
Amen brother.
no worries. hey we might think different but we're still united fans. If no one gave a shit football wouldn't be worth watching. Let's just see what transpires first
I reckon were waiting for Ronaldo to decide. Simple as. Unfortunately Ronaldo has played himself into a position of power. I do believe United are strong on this. (hope so otherwise SAF and Gill have just lied to us) But ultimately it comes down to what the player wants. Just got to wait until he opens his mouth and utters the words 'I am staying for a long time/ I want to go to Madrid'
Manchester United have stated that the superstar is not for sale, but it is believed that there would be little the Premier League champions could do should he state his desire to leave.
At Camp Nou, the current regime face a vote of no confidence and if the club members support that in a forthcoming referendum then elections will be held.
Rosell, the former Blaugrana vice-president and Joan Laporta's running mate in 2003, is already considered to be a favourite should that happen and he could woo the voters with the promise of landing Ronaldo.
According to Marca, the man who wil certainly run in 2010 to be president of Barça, should elections not happen this year, has several aces up his sleeve.
One key factor is Rosell's close friendship with Ronaldo's agent, Jorge Mendes, who he knows well from various previous deals, including the one that took Deco to Camp Nou.
If he were to win this summer, with September a likely date, then the new man at the helm would look to install current Portugal boss Luiz Felipe Scolari as coach at Barça when his contract expires with the national team.
Ronaldo is known to have a great relationship with the Brazilian and his influence in the deal could be huge because the pair work very well together at international level.
A third, and equally important element, is Nike. Rosell was the head of the sportswear company's operation in South America and has many contacts and connections still with the organisation.
They would push Ronaldo to join Barcelona and play in their kit, rather than to move to Real Madrid, who are sponsored by Adidas.
All this hypothetical, but Ramon Calderón must be hoping that Joan Laporta manages to retain his position at the Catalan giants to avoid having to take both Rosell and Sir Alex Ferguson.
Because treatment of the supporters, love for the club, loyalty, valueing what the supporters have done for you and how the club staff have helped you progress is all part of being a legend..
That's why the likes of Sir Bobby Charlton, Denis Law, Eric Cantona, Roy Keane, George Best, Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Ole Solskjaer are held in such high regards with the supporters....
Eric had arrogance that Ronaldo has, except Eric always paid tribute to the supporters and Manchester United meant a lot to him...
"When I think Football, I think Manchester United.." - Eric Cantona..
Ability is just ONE of the factors that contributes to legendary status at a football club, at least at Manchester United Football Club..there's a lot more to being a legend than JUST ability.
Where is that quote?
Either way i doubt that him thinking he wont be awarded the world player of the year award because he plays for us is behind is reasoning. We are the European champions and he is the clear favourite for the award.
Marca are up to their old tricks again. They state that Barcelona are keeping an eye out for him is well. If Ronaldo were ever to leave us, he would definetly join his "Dream Club: Read Madrid".
As idiotic as marca are, even they must have reliased that, he would only join Real; that proves Marca are absolute BS.
His girlfriend is from Barcelona.
If he actually does leave and it turns out he was fecking with us because he knows he can, then yes he is a cnut.
But if he comes back next season with a big fat £150,000 a week contract then he will be almost completely justified for doing what he did, and if he is looking for a contract then he hasn't really done much wrong. SAF said Ronaldo's a smart lad, so let's hope he's right and he knows what he is doing.
Eric left to pursue a dream, to become a movie star even though he could have done so much more with us. Similar to Ronaldo's case because when he leaves to Madrid he will be pursuing a dream, a much less stupid dream than the one Le King had.
The likes of Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Law, Charlton and Solsjkaer in my eyes are legends, King Eric should not be if Ronaldo isn't.
So WILL we let him go if he says he wants to?
I certainly hope so...
Eric left to pursue a dream, to become a movie star even though he could have done so much more with us. Similar to Ronaldo's case because when he leaves to Madrid he will be pursuing a dream, a much less stupid dream than the one Le King had.
The likes of Scholes, Giggs, Keane, Law, Charlton and Solsjkaer in my eyes are legends, King Eric should not be if Ronaldo isn't.
So, i take that you dont like Ronaldo or it is just indirect sacarsm.
Pursuing a dream is different from telling the supporters one thing, and then changing what you've said 2 minutes later..
Minutes after the CL Final on ITV after being asked are you staying "yes, I'm staying"
Then couple of hours later on BBC after being asked so you're staying "I don't know, I don't promise anything"
then later "yes I'm staying"
and then a day or two later "I will see, I have to make a decision"
Oh and this is not some media tabloid conjecture...These are actual quotes from the player we've seen or heard come from his mouth on the video/audio interviews.
You don't feck with the fans like that.
If he wants to leave, no one's condeming him, just don't feck around and give mixed signals!
i was happy to sweep away his reported comments as tabloid misquotes, but hearing what he said after the Portugal match gave me a very bad feeling.
if Ronaldo leaves, particularly in this manner, he'll never be a Manchester United legend in my eyes.
i'd view him as a traitor, forever. a very talented traitor, but a traitor all the same.
i can't imagine why any player would GAMBLE with what he's got at Old Trafford.
it's 100 times worse than what Heinze did, because the level of faith and love that we've shown Ronaldo eclipses any other player in modern times.
i hope he's playing some silly press game that's gotten out of hand for him, and he stays and learns to KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT TO THE PRESS and to RESPECT HIS TEAM MATES.
but i fear a significant amount of damage has been done through all this, even if he does stay.
after such a fantastic season, why do this at all?
it hurts, and it's needless.
From todays DT.
Strangely similar article to the earlier one from the guardian
As I have said before, plenty of times, if he is sending mixed signals just because he knows he has the media and the fans eating out of his hands then he is a cnut and we should sell him, if he is looking for a contract though then I will forget all about it in a heartbeat.
Rubbish. People forget that Bestie left us when he was 27. You lot would probably be slagging him off as well.You are absolutely right.
What a load of bollocks. Eric wanted something we couldn't give him - a life outside of football. Within football he would never have looked anywhere else other than United, and so is rightly seen as a legend.
If Ronnie's dream is to play for Madrid, then that is stupid and disrespectful to United, as we can offer him everything they can and more, due to being a better club with better players a better manager and better fans. He will merely be moving for reasons such as money, climate and nagging mother, which does dtract from potential legend status.
Rubbish. People forget that Bestie left us when he was 27. You lot would probably be slagging him off as well.
I agree if he leaves in this manner, he won't be remembered as finally as he should have been. But you don't have end your career at United to be considered a legend.
Rubbish. People forget that Bestie left us when he was 27. You lot would probably be slagging him off as well.
I agree if he leaves in this manner, he won't be remembered as finally as he should have been. But you don't have end your career at United to be considered a legend.
This got lost in the 15 pages of posts since I went to bed and got up.
Think it sums it up for now.
So what are the options......
He says he is staying for the length of his contract. Great. After the first couple of games we'll be all over him again. BPITW!
He says he wants to leave now. Then feck Off. We are Manchester United!
He says he will leave next year. feck off now.
He says he loves us all and will never leave us. Legend.
What is interesting for me now is #3....if he decides to stay for one more year. How will we treat him, as fans? Viva Ronaldo? Somehow don't think so.
Rubbish. People forget that Bestie left us when he was 27. You lot would probably be slagging him off as well.
I agree if he leaves in this manner, he won't be remembered as finally as he should have been. But you don't have end your career at United to be considered a legend.
Best point was made purely to show that you don't have to stay at United forever. And I am pretty sure cafites would have slagged him off back in the day given his off field shinanigans.God, if you can't see the difference between how Best left and how Ronnie is potentially leaving, it's really not worth discussing.
It's not about age and whether they go somewhere else - Schmeichs is a legend and he went on to play for City!
Yes but his career's just starting. So he finally shows what a great player he is/he can be and hence he's ready for Madrid.
Very far from legend.
But that's not even the point, the point is our club have shown a great deal of faith in him, I'm sure NONE of the spanish or Italian clubs would've given him.
It's this "galaktiko" crap that's pissing everyone off. Because it seems Real madrid can't do it any other way except with a lot of money and "superstars".
You sure? Ain't no wrath like that of a woman scorned.Best point was made purely to show that you don't have to stay at United forever. And I am pretty sure cafites would have slagged him off back in the day given his off field shinanigans.
Already said if Ronaldo leaves in this manner he won't be considered a legend. But there is no way he will disliked more than someone like Heinze.
I personally believe that he has his heart set on moving. If he intended on staying why all the "2 to three days" bullshit? Why not just reassure the fans that he's staying? He's not stupid, he knows how worried Uniteds fans are right now. But his actions are proving he doesn't give a shit.
I reckon his agent was told over the weekend that Madrid would be officially bidding for him this week hence Ronaldo's comments after the portugal match.
He's won the carling cup as well.He's played over 200 games for the club. He's won three leagues, an fa cup and a champions league. Has won pfa awards and is likely to win either the european and/or world player of the year
He also got to the final with portugal in the last euros and starred in the world cup. Added to the fact his international record is outstanding
And you say his career is just starting?..
He's played over 200 games for the club. He's won three leagues, an fa cup and a champions league. Has won pfa awards and is likely to win either the european and/or world player of the year
He also got to the final with portugal in the last euros and starred in the world cup. Added to the fact his international record is outstanding
And you say his career is just starting?..
He's played over 200 games for the club. He's won three leagues, an fa cup and a champions league. Has won pfa awards and is likely to win either the european and/or world player of the year
He's played over 200 games for the club. He's won three leagues, an fa cup and a champions league. Has won pfa awards and is likely to win either the european and/or world player of the year
He also got to the final with portugal in the last euros and starred in the world cup. Added to the fact his international record is outstanding
He also won the golden boot, in the processing scored the most in the last seasons champions league campaign
And you say his career is just starting?..