Do you mean the penalty against Boro, in the penultimate game of the season.
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Do you mean the penalty against Boro, in the penultimate game of the season.
Yes, but in general I hate acronyms.
Top post mate. Obtaining a legendary status in this great club, requires far more than footballing ability.
Being a United legend requires something more than just being a good footballer.
Giggs is a legend, because he has given his entire career to the club, in addition to being a good footballer.
Scholes is a legend because of the same reasons.
Solskjær is a legend because of the respect and loyalty he showed the club and it's fans and because being a humble person, in addition to scoring the winning goal in the CL and being a decent footballer.
Cantona is a legend because he was the last piece of the jigsaw that saw us winning the league after so long, as well as being a larger than life kind of character, in addition to being a good footballer.
Etc, etc.
Basically, the legends have given the club and its fans something more of themselves than just good football.
Ronaldo has yet to do that. And I doubt he will. Always had this doubt.
Giggs is a legend, because he has given his entire career to the club, in addition to being a good footballer.
Scholes is a legend because of the same reasons.
Solskjær is a legend because of the respect and loyalty he showed the club and it's fans and because being a humble person, in addition to scoring the winning goal in the CL and being a decent footballer.
Cantona is a legend because he was the last piece of the jigsaw that saw us winning the league after so long, as well as being a larger than life kind of character, in addition to being a good footballer.
Etc, etc.
Basically, the legends have given the club and its fans something more of themselves than just good football.
Ronaldo has yet to do that. And I doubt he will. Always had this doubt.
Let me tell you something. People define legend in many ways. It's not retarded to have an appriciation of this fact.
And just because you have this small list of what people must do, that's your list. your welcome to it. Don't come here and act like a div saying your list is the better lol
And just because you have this small list of what people must do, that's your list. your welcome to it. Don't come here and act like a div saying your list is the better lol
Ok.
The first bit I don't really get. Surely Ryan Giggs can be reasonably called a United legend whilst he's playing because, on top of about 40 other reasons, everytime he steps out on the pitch he's setting a record that in this day and age may never be broken.
The second bit surely means that if you were having a debate, as I think we are, you would say that Ronaldo was a legend.
Don't get me wrong, it was me who re-worded the Lord's Prayer for Ronaldo and most of what I wrote wasn't directed at you personally I was referencing what you said at the start to have a rant. So sorry for that.
I just think a bit of perspective is needed and it might help calm the nerves until he does make his announcement. Or the next season starts. Whichever is sooner.
Wonderful post and totally spot on about the legend status.
Knob heads on here were calling judas legend a couple of years ago.
True legends have this club in their blood, heart and soul.
I was being sarcastic at that point. Does mine in too.
Oh and i didn't say that Becks isn't a United legend, although personally I'm not sure, just that he epitomised developments in football that perhaps aren't the best for game.
I'd in fact go on and say Becks is more of a United legend than Ronaldo by far (at least judging on Ronaldo's time at United till today and his off the pitch dealings)
It could be the case, purely thinking out loud, that he's waiting for the world player of the year awards. He clearly wants that reassurance and recognition. If he gets it at United, he may well stay.
That does not make sense. It is awarded in December, the situation will be resolved by then.
Thanks
I'd say players that have unfinished business at the club are not legends.
Hence, the likes of Stam, Ruud, Beckham and seemingly Ronaldo, are no legends.
Hence, the likes of Stam, Ruud, Beckham and seemingly Ronaldo, are no legends.
funny to see most take the mickey out of you in your other thread. i didn't agree with you but didn't think you were a WUM and had salient points.
you are still off on your valuation though. no way we'll only get 50-60 million quid for him.
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you are still off on your valuation though. no way we'll only get 50-60 million quid for him.
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I would say giggs is a living legend, because he's still playing. When he stops then i would say he's a legend at the club.
You cannot deny what Ronaldo has achieved. When people talking about Best, they will mention the legenday season, this winger who got 32 goals. Well Ronaldo got 44
Scoring in the final of cups, these things stand out.
If Ronaldo stopped playing now, i'm be disappointed. But not at what he's done for the club but because there is still more to come.
You cannot deny the fact that for a winger scoring 40 odd goals in a season, scoring in the champions league final, winning nearly every award with a european or world player of the year surely to come.....you cannot deny this season was one of the best individual efforts ever from a player
But while he's playing and still got so much to do i wouldn't like to label him because he is still young and I expect him to go on to do great things BUT
There is always a but.
For me he's well on his way, but there is no point talking about it. No one really wants to tempt fate.
I think I can appriciate it but I'm not keen on saying it as the guy is fundermentally unlikeable
Now maybe he hasn't won us over but he hasn't left yet. That's for starters. He's still a united player inspite of the media bollocks.
He's also been here five years. For someone not loyal, it's not a bad stint is it? His behaviour is shite but that's Ronaldo for you
Most top players have a flaw, injuries, lack of dicipline...it's just unfortunate our lads an asshole
For me there are variables and he does tick some of the boxes. - but there is more to come and who knows where he will be in 5 years time. Maybe doing the same shit still playing for United??..we'll see
i think becks is a legend. i think ferguson wanted to take the team in a different direction and they mutually parted ways. fergie has no problems ever with becks and becks now a days only has praise for fergie. he had run his course with united IMO.
yeah boro. sorry.
I know...i did appreciate that you were one of few people that actualy bothered entertaining my musings rather than just branding me a WUM, thanks for that.
Out of those 5 years, he was hardly wanted by anyone before he really started to shine and come into the limelight of world football which was last year and this year..
And at the first chance he heard of Madrid being interested in him, he hardly seems like discounting the chance of leaving.
He was sought after when we bought him. He was sought after the world cup and now he's sought after again....
Why would he discourage it? He wants to play in spain but I don't think he'd fall apart if it didn't happen for the forseeable future
Spot on..I think Becks has been vastly underated by many regarding his contribution to United..
In fact, he ALWAYS, ALWAYS gave a 100% when he stepped out onto the pitch, regardless of his form, off the pitch activities, and media attention and never let the supporters down in terms of commitment.
Even till today he speaks about his love for the club, regardless of where he plays or his lifestyle...
Salient - good word. Had to look it up, thought it meant 'salty'.
Can someone update me about the current situation? No announcement still?
One of the papers said Ronaldo's agent said there would be no announcement until Friday. So another couple of days of blind speculation by the media to go.
We're sure that we might know something soon about the decision that may or may not have to be taken regarding the possible future of Ronaldo.
In fact we're so sure of what we don't know that we're talking about Becks instead.
Was he a legend?
Just a thought, if Ronaldo really wants his dream fulfilled to play for Real one day, could we not just loan the fellow out for a 2 week or one month loan to them and bring him back..
He gets his dream, we get to keep him, and he can stay with the team that is best for him footballing wise..
That's right, I'm a fecking genius.
He gets his dream, we get to keep him, and he can stay with the team that is best for him footballing wise..
That's right, I'm a fecking genius.
Quality suggestion. We could charge them a bucket load for that and make them pay his wages.
I remember Fergie was interviewed afterwards on MUTV and he was clearly annoyed with him.
Why has this thread turned into what is a legend? Of course beckham is a legend for gods sake, as is giggs cantona best etc. these players are ''part of the history of the club'' as saf said in that frost interview.
As becks said ronaldos only just starting on his united adventure. he has the potential to be a united legend-but he wont because hes leaving us if not now then soon.
As becks said ronaldos only just starting on his united adventure. he has the potential to be a united legend-but he wont because hes leaving us if not now then soon.
What you posted is pretty much why the discussion ended up where it has.
this is going to be 100 pages and we might still dunno if Ronaldo is staying or leaving.
Not to mention,
while he's there he'll also realise we've got more people filling out Old Trafford week in week out to see the likes of Wes Brown, while Real can't even attract that much with their galacticos, a bigger stadium and cheaper ticket prices..
Let him realise if you go more than a couple of matches at Real without scoring a Golaso, out come the white handkerchiefs..
Ronaldo is NOT a legend.
Does that make Charlton, Cantona and Law dead legends?
Cheers for that charleysurf and rob.
I sincerely hope he does make an 'annoucement' today..it's getting frustrating.
As for legeneds, Beckham is without doubt a legend for me.
I sincerely hope he does make an 'annoucement' today..it's getting frustrating.
As for legeneds, Beckham is without doubt a legend for me.
He has already been here as long as Le King and he is well recognised by many as a legend. His season this year is one of the most impressive season's by any player in the last few years. His personality should have no bearing on how much we appreciate him for what he did with us.
first of all legend is opinion not fact, though in some circumstances so many people agree that it almost is. That is a fact.
That is what makes us human lol
Second, have you ever heard the term dead legends? The term doesn't exist. You can call them living legends, you can call them legends. It's entirely preference isn't it?..
You surely don't say and do things just because everyone else says and does them. We are free you know
Why not?
He's not a Legend.
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