yep 3 leagues. one with ruud (think we still had veron then) and the other two the last two years
wrong. hes only won 2.
yep 3 leagues. one with ruud (think we still had veron then) and the other two the last two years
yep 3 leagues. one with ruud (think we still had veron then) and the other two the last two years
If he goes to Madrid, the best part of his career could already be behind him at 23... thos besty comparisons hold some water in that respect (even if for vastly different reasons)
yep 3 leagues. one with ruud (think we still had veron then) and the other two the last two years
yep 3 leagues. one with ruud (think we still had veron then) and the other two the last two years
This thread really has gone round in circles so many times.
Why don't we just agree on one of two things?:
1. He decides he's leaving, never fufills his potential to be a legend and we all call him a cnut.
2. He signs a new contract, stays on for another 2 years or so and he becomes one of the best players to grace our pitch and all is forgiven.
yep 3 leagues. one with ruud (think we still had veron then) and the other two the last two years
David May?he started at 18. You say he's very far from legend. But let me ask you, for a guy that's just starting he's achieved an awful lot ain't he? I cannot think of any player, in my lifetime, that has made such strides
Oh that's right you never made a mistake in your life ....gimp
People, don't you see?
Calderon's evil plan is working.
Another article
Reasoning sounds feasable ( almost always does ) but it is still speculation
But still no word from Ronnie
As written by Jim White
Yahoo Sport and Eurosport
He's off...
Wed Jun 04 02:12PM
Unless we have all read the signs wrongly and in fact he was just doing it all along to gain a bit of attention, this weekend Cristiano Ronaldo is going to announce his wish to join Real Madrid. Of course he is: if he had no intention of courting the Spanish champions he would have stated simply and clearly a month ago that he was happy to stay at Manchester United. But he didn't because all along he has wanted to go play for the team his mum, his godfather, his agent and his Uncle Tom Cobley and all have been dreaming of him joining since he conducted his first step-over at the age of six months. For the finest player to pull on a red shirt in a generation, United was only ever a stepping stone to reach his ultimate destination. The moment the team in white came in from him, there was to be no holding him. He was off.
The intriguing thing is what happens next. If Ronaldo thinks it will just be a case of contacting his bank to send a wheelbarrow round to the Bernabeu to pick up his first wage packet, he has another think coming. Even with a promised fee of £70million, United are not going to make it easy. If they don't want to sell, they are under no obligation to do so. Alex Ferguson has already stated that he is happy to let the player "rot in the reserves" rather than let him go to Madrid. And since he is under contract for three more years that is an awful lot of rotting to do. He might be decidedly whiffy at the end of that spell.
United have seen a steady stream of players heading westwards out of Manchester to Madrid these past few years. David Beckham, Ruud van Nistelrooy and Gabriel Heinze have all headed there since 2003. But, as Ferguson has been at pains to point out, he no longer required the services of that particular trio. He was happy for them to go. Pleased to bank the cheque and move on. Ronaldo is a very different case. Not only is his skill, his panache, his bravery crucial to United's style of play (as anyone would be who scores 42 goals in a season) Ferguson will not wish to see his multitude of talents being employed for a direct rival. Which, in these Champions League dominated times, is what Madrid are, as much a direct rival to United as Liverpool, Arsenal or Manchester City. Actually, rather more than Manchester City. So the United manager will do everything he can to stand in the way of such a move. In 22 years at Old Trafford, Ferguson prides himself on never letting go a player he wanted to keep. The man has a way of getting what he wants.
So if Ronaldo is obliged to stay against his wishes what then? About ten years ago, Prince, in a bid to release himself from his long-term record contract, changed his name to some incomprehensible hieroglyphic and continually had himself photographed with the word "slave" scribbled on his knuckles. George Michael too spent an age trying to extricate himself from his deal with Sony, refusing to produce any material for them even though he was contractually obliged to do so. Can we expect the same of Ronaldo? Will he have himself pictured in the stands at Old Trafford during matches in a set of handcuffs? Will he fling the biggest sulk since Nicolas Anelka was born? Will he go on perpetual strike? In which case, what would happen if United had a terrible injury crisis, say Nani fell over his own ego in training, what then? Would Ronaldo be expected to step in (or rather step over) as cover?
It could be interesting times ahead in the court of the Lollipop King. But whatever happens, United fans need to start getting used to this unpalatable truth: unless he really is just the biggest tease on the planet and all this dallying with Madrid was just a bit of a giggle, that magnificent goal he scored in Moscow in the Champions League final was the last one Ronaldo will ever net for the club.
How would Ronaldo fit in to the Real team? Does their style of play suit his? Real have already said that he cannot have the number 7 shirt if he joins them - thats Rauls.
Ok, I'm not saying Jim White is wrong and am just playing devil's advocate but how about this:
Ronaldo wants a new contract from United so starts dropping hints about a move to Real and setting deadlines. United don't bite so the deadlines keep getting put back. Stories are planted in the media as usual but never with quotes. United currently haven't blinked.
Real meanwhile take the bait and actively pursue him. However, they need him to come out and announce he wants to leave. The deadline for this keeps going back. They start getting pissed off and pull right back, citing United's unwillingness to sell to save face. They, after all, can't wait all summer.
And so the stand off continues. Ronaldo can't announce his desire to leave because that would ruin his relationship with the United fans.
So, who blinks first.................
Isn't that just as plausible as what White has said?
Ok, I'm not saying Jim White is wrong and am just playing devil's advocate but how about this:
Ronaldo wants a new contract from United so starts dropping hints about a move to Real and setting deadlines. United don't bite so the deadlines keep getting put back. Stories are planted in the media as usual but never with quotes. United currently haven't blinked.
Real meanwhile take the bait and actively pursue him. However, they need him to come out and announce he wants to leave. The deadline for this keeps going back and they suspect they are being played. They start getting pissed off and pull right back, citing United's unwillingness to sell to save face. They, after all, can't wait all summer.
And so the stand off continues. Ronaldo can't announce his desire to leave because that would ruin his relationship with the United fans.
So, who blinks first.................
Isn't that just as plausible as what White has said?
So he's staying then.......?
I want players who actually want to play for the club and know what an honour it is to play for us.
Calderon gives up on Ronaldo
by Laurent Picard, 04 June 2008
Real Madrid chairman Ramon Calderon claims it is ‘impossible’ to sign Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United.
Los Merengues’ chief is adamant the current best player in the world is not on the market and as a consequence has stated that the Spanish giants will stop pushing for his signing.
United fans can be relieved as it appears the Glazer family have blocked the possibility prevent any club from buying their hero this summer.
The Ronaldo saga comes to an end after rumours about an imminent move to El Santiago Bernabeu were at the top of every Spanish news outlet over the last three weeks.
“It is impossible to sign him because his employers do not want to sell him, it is as simple as that,” Calderon said from Brussels.
“We cannot do anything if his employers are not selling him.
“We will never break the rules because it is not Real Madrid’s policy with every club, and most of all with a club we consider a friend.
“We are not going to act in the relationship between a player and his club because I would not want them to do it to us.”
So he's staying then.......?
Or Robben, Drenthe, Raul and Higuain.It would suit him very well, although obviously not as well as he suits ours. He would be given plenty of license to roam around in basically the same areas as he does for us with ether Sneijder or Robinho on the other side.
I still can't believe what kind of mother that goes out and say such stuff to the press. She should be happy with her son being happy, no?It is.
If you ignore the last wish of his dying mum and all the blather from his god-father.
I'm getting rapidly convinced that he wants to leave. Which is a shame but every footballer should be entitled to play for whichever club he wants to. And when his cancer-ridden mum says she wants him to play for her favourite side, Real Madrid "so she can die happy" he's caught between a rock and a hard place, isn't he?
I think the money/contract thing is a red herring. I just don't think he's motivated by cash. He's going to end up rich beyond his wildest dreams, no matter what happens.
I still don't think he'll leave this summer though, because United won't sell him. But next summer he's off.
Mind you, Gerrard had his heart set on joining Chelsea at one point. A season is a long time in football. So maybe... just maybe...
Or Robben, Drenthe, Raul and Higuain.
It is.
If you ignore the last wish of his dying mum and all the blather from his god-father.
I'm getting rapidly convinced that he wants to leave. Which is a shame but every footballer should be entitled to play for whichever club he wants to. And when his cancer-ridden mum says she wants him to play for her favourite side, Real Madrid "so she can die happy" he's caught between a rock and a hard place, isn't he?
I think the money/contract thing is a red herring. I just don't think he's motivated by cash. He's going to end up rich beyond his wildest dreams, no matter what happens.
I still don't think he'll leave this summer though, because United won't sell him. But next summer he's off.
Mind you, Gerrard had his heart set on joining Chelsea at one point. A season is a long time in football. So maybe... just maybe...