ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

Status
Not open for further replies.
Ronaldo is not important to Man United's revenue streams. Keeping him wouldn't make a 2 or 3 percent difference to our revenue.

Man United make the players world stars. Not the other way round.

Ronaldo is ranked as the no. 1 most marketable player in the planet according to Deloitte. Rooney is no. 2.

If Ronnie was to go, Rooney would be no. 1 because he plays for MAN UNITED.


When Beckham left, the club did some research into the effects it may have had on the clubs global appeal. The results were that it had NONE, except a SLIGHT dip popularity in Japan - where they have a culture of adoring individual stars or ''heroes''

So stop sucking Ronaldo's cock and over etimating MASSIVELY his marketing worth.

We make the feckin stars!
 
jojojo said:
This is a document very similar to one that was signed by Luis Figo with Florentino Perez. The former Barcelona player, advised by his agent, Jorge Mendes, ensuring a significant amount of money as compensation to the risk of forcing his departure. That same approach is used by Ramon Calderon, who is also taking advantage of Ronaldo's representative Jorge Mendes, and who had handled the 'case Figo' in the manner most interesting to Madrid.

Now, I may be wrong about this, but I think:
Mendes is Figo's agent now, but he wasn't back then.
Madrid sprung a release fee clause in Figo's Barca contract so it effectively was a negotiation between Figo and Madrid.
Click to expand...

You are absolutely right. Figo's agent at the time of the Madrid transfer was Jose Veiga and is known to have got in to a lot of disputes and arguments with clubs before.

Also good point about the buy out clause. Barcelona would have never accepted a bid from Madrid for Figo had there been no buyout clause
 
Ronaldo the cnut has definitely fecked up what should have been a summer of gloating for United fans.

feckin cnut. I can't stand the twat.
 
I honestly believe that Ronnie's appeal will dip after he leaves United, unless he marries a superstar Hollywood actress/musician. His conduct this summer has left a blot on his reputation and character, especially with United fans worldwide. I recall Ronaldinho had taken over Becks as the most marketable footballer on the planet, and this coincided with his time as the best player in the world. That didn't last long, and Barca weren't really worried about his marketability when they sold him.

Ronaldo is marketable because he's playing for the most supported club in the world, he's the best in the world, and he's a good-looking lad. But a man who sleeps around with prostitutes, extremely arrogant in an unlikeable way (contrast with Cantona) and dissing our club the way he has done this summer, more or less guarantees that this appeal of his will diminish.
 
Kaka83 said:
I honestly believe that Ronnie's appeal will dip after he leaves United, unless he marries a superstar Hollywood actress/musician. His conduct this summer has left a blot on his reputation and character, especially with United fans worldwide. I recall Ronaldinho had taken over Becks as the most marketable footballer on the planet, and this coincided with his time as the best player in the world. That didn't last long, and Barca weren't really worried about his marketability when they sold him.

Ronaldo is marketable because he's playing for the most supported club in the world, he's the best in the world, and he's a good-looking lad. But a man who sleeps around with prostitutes, extremely arrogant in an unlikeable way (contrast with Cantona) and dissing our club the way he has done this summer, more or less guarantees that this appeal of his will diminish.
Click to expand...

It won't*



*You are talking as though Madrid is not a well supported club. If he plays the way he plays for us and takes them to European Champion, he will earn legendary status at Madrid. You think that will diminish his appeal?
 
It's a tad red-blinkered to say that Ronaldo would be nothing without Manchester United. Well, that's an understatement.

But, what is sure is that his overall estimation as a person/player would have been slightly mitigated.
 
IF he is unsettled from now on we should sell him, but only if we can get the jackpot for him. I don't think it's sensible to keep unsettled players at the club no matter who they are and how it arised.

I dont think Ronaldo is as popular as people are saying he his. Fans realise he's out best player, but few have really liked him.

Ronaldo will only be aloud to leave if we get additions to squad.
And I don't selling Ronaldo would be as bad for us as people say. Every cloud has a silver lining.
 
KingMinger22 said:
Ronaldo the cnut has definitely fecked up what should have been a summer of gloating for United fans.

feckin cnut. I can't stand the twat.
Click to expand...

The quality of informed debate which this thread has generated has resulted in a kind of litmus test for contributions being made by the 'regulars'.

You fail it.
 
Kaka83 said:
Yes, Ronnie wanting to play for Madrid and Ronnie wanting to leave are the same thing to me. Ruud didn't drag our name through the mud but he wanted to leave, so we've been told.
Click to expand...
And yet, when it came down to actions, Ruud actually put in two or three transfer requests, something that Ronaldo hasn't done. The media has 'dragged our name through the mud' a lot more than Ronaldo.

When you get right down to it, Ronaldo has said he'd like to move but Real would have to make an offer that we accept. The end.
 
Figo’s Barça-Madrid Secret Revealed
José Veiga, the former agent of Luis Figo, has exposed a startling fact behind the player’s hugely controversial move from Barcelona to arch nemesis, Real Madrid in 2000.

Veiga, who is currently the chairman of English League One side, Swindon Town has revealed how former Real Madrid president Florentino Pérez managed to pull off one of the biggest shocks in transfer history by snapping up Luis Figo from Barcelona for €65 million.

Accoring to Sport, Veiga disclosed that he had signed a pre-agreement with Pérez, who was running against Lorenzo Sanz for the club’s presidency then, to bring Figo to the Bernabéu.

He then claimed that the main reason he signed the document was to pressure Barcelona into accepting a contract improvement for the player, in addition to pocketing a handsome €3 million in commission.

What Veiga didn’t know at the time – other than the fact that Lorenzo Sanz would lose the elections and hand the reigns over to Pérez – was that as per the signed agreement, there was a €30 million exit fee attached should Veiga or Figo himself break the contract to join Los Blancos.

With Veiga trapped between a rock and a hard place, Figo then asked the agent: “What do we do now?” to which Veiga replied, “There are three options. One, you remain at Barça and pay the €30 million which you do not have, two, you don’t pay them and I go to jail, or three, you go to Real Madrid.”

Veiga believes that it is a similar tactic that current president Ramón Calderón is using to snatch Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United ; making the player sign a deal with Los Merengues that includes a penalty clause that could cost the Portuguese millions should he break his end of the deal.
Click to expand...

what do platini and blatter have to say now ?
 
VidaRed said:
what do platini and blatter have to say now ?
Click to expand...

But how can Ronaldo enter into a contract with a third party (RM) when he is already contracted to MU? Surely his existing contract would automatically invalidate any subsequent attempt to enter another contract. And is it credible that he could have been so stupid as to sign anything Calderon waved under his nose, especially with an agent supposedly advising him?

It beggars belief, surely.
 
Ferguson: No Loyalty In Modern Game.

Legendary Manchester United manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, has moved to publicly mention that the days of the one-man club are numbered, and that there is no loyalty in the game today...



Speaking at a press conference, the Scot told journalists: "Anyone serving more than 10 years at a football club these days is exceptional. Especially with freedom of contract, the Bosman Rule and agents... it's very difficult to get players to stay for that length of time, particularly when they're not from your country, which I think is even more difficult."

"It is difficult to say where people are going to be in two weeks' time, let alone two years and I certainly would not want to talk about what is likely to happen at this club. It is not my domain."



http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=800994


I think that is a direct hint that he going to leave in the next couple of weeks..
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
But how can Ronaldo enter into a contract with a third party (RM) when he is already contracted to MU? Surely his existing contract would automatically invalidate any subsequent attempt to enter another contract. And is it credible that he could have been so stupid as to sign anything Calderon waved under his nose, especially with an agent supposedly advising him?

It beggars belief, surely.
Click to expand...

his agent signed it acting on behalf of him and not figo but figo would have to pay madrid or his agent would goto jail.

bottom line madrid are scum.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
But how can Ronaldo enter into a contract with a third party (RM) when he is already contracted to MU? Surely his existing contract would automatically invalidate any subsequent attempt to enter another contract. And is it credible that he could have been so stupid as to sign anything Calderon waved under his nose, especially with an agent supposedly advising him?

It beggars belief, surely.
Click to expand...

Can't see how Ronaldo or his agent could guarantee that even if he asked for a transfer, it would be granted. It isn't in their remit as any 'guarantee' is unrealistic. Any enforcement by Calderon, IF this exists, is destined for a sticky end and a counter claim from us for millions. Perhaps that's why the Madrid board are rumoured to be a little 'concerned' over Calderon's tactics.
 
VidaRed said:
his agent signed it acting on behalf of him and not figo but figo would have to pay madrid or his agent would goto jail.

bottom line madrid are scum.
Click to expand...

And I can see Ronaldo letting him go to prison. He's that arrogant.
 
32294_news.jpg


I Think Ronaldo Will Stay - Lippi

World Cup winning coach Marcello Lippi is the latest leading football figure to chime in on one of the most talked about transfer soap operas in history.

Azzuri coach Marcello Lippi offered his views on the Ronaldo transfer saga, revealing to La Gazzetta dello Sport that he believes the Portuguese will remain at Old Trafford.

The veteran 60 year old Italian appears to side with Sir Alex Ferguson’s stance to hang on to the free-scoring winger as he stated that money isn’t everything and that the right decision would be for Ronaldo to stay on in England.

“The €100 million Real Madrid are offering is a crazy figure but some things cannot be bought with money,” Lippi said to the Italian paper in the interview.

“Ferguson is very obstinate on this issue but I believe that it is the correct decision from a technical viewpoint as I don’t think a player should have the final say. I think Ronaldo will stay in Manchester,” he continued.

Lippi also added that based on Portugal’s performance in the recently concluded European Championships in Austria/Switzereland, Ronaldo is not the kind of player capable of winning a major tournament on his own.
 
Bernd Schuster has said that Real Madrid are 'working hard' to draw a line under their pursuit of Manchester United winger Ronaldo.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is adamant Ronaldo will remain at Old Trafford for the new season, despite the Portugal international failing to clearly indicate where he sees his future.

Real are reportedly poised to offer a record-breaking fee for the 23-year-old should he express his desire to secure a switch to the Santiago Bernabeu this summer.

Head coach Schuster admits the club expected a tough battle in landing Ronaldo, but are hopeful of soon reaching a resolution following a drawn-out transfer saga.

"I think the club is working hard to get a solution to this matter. We will have to see," Schuster said after his side's 2-1 win over Hamburg in the Emirates Cup.

Robinho
"We knew it would be a complicated matter. It was not going to be easy for Cristiano Ronaldo to come to Real Madrid.

"He would be a great player for any coach. Of course if you ask any coach in the world if they want Cristiano Ronaldo they would say yes."

The capture of Ronaldo would reportedly set in motion an exit for Robinho to Chelsea, however Schuster insists Real have no plans to sell the Brazilian.

"A lot of teams are interested in buying him but I think he knows he is a very important player in our project," Schuster said.

"He is fundamental in our team and we have never thought about letting him go."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_3900780,00.html

feck off Real Madrid.
 
"we can't talk about players that aren't ours"

and then I see articles like that.

Madrid really are scum
 
Kelvin said:
Bernd Schuster has said that Real Madrid are 'working hard' to draw a line under their pursuit of Manchester United winger Ronaldo.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is adamant Ronaldo will remain at Old Trafford for the new season, despite the Portugal international failing to clearly indicate where he sees his future.

Real are reportedly poised to offer a record-breaking fee for the 23-year-old should he express his desire to secure a switch to the Santiago Bernabeu this summer.

Head coach Schuster admits the club expected a tough battle in landing Ronaldo, but are hopeful of soon reaching a resolution following a drawn-out transfer saga.

"I think the club is working hard to get a solution to this matter. We will have to see," Schuster said after his side's 2-1 win over Hamburg in the Emirates Cup.

Robinho
"We knew it would be a complicated matter. It was not going to be easy for Cristiano Ronaldo to come to Real Madrid.

"He would be a great player for any coach. Of course if you ask any coach in the world if they want Cristiano Ronaldo they would say yes."

The capture of Ronaldo would reportedly set in motion an exit for Robinho to Chelsea, however Schuster insists Real have no plans to sell the Brazilian.

"A lot of teams are interested in buying him but I think he knows he is a very important player in our project," Schuster said.

"He is fundamental in our team and we have never thought about letting him go."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_3900780,00.html

feck off Real Madrid.
Click to expand...

You feel like banging your head against a wall but you realise there is no point. :mad: Real Madrid are senseless.
 
jojojo said:
Just a few notes on the, "Ronaldo has to pay Madrid 20m if he doesn't sign", story. I've been following this in the spanish press since it appeared as:
http://www.elconfidencial.com/cache...ano_ronaldo_pagara_millones_ficha_madrid.html
a couple of days ago.

As I don't know who El Confidencial are or what their track record's like, I ignored it as too garbled to be worth repeating. Had they taken a Madrid exec's comment about "it'll cost him big money if he doesn't come this summer" and run with it or did they actually have some evidence that Ron had not only signed a pre-contract, he'd signed a pre-contract with penalty clauses? I really couldn't tell.

Plus the article as a whole has something of a smell to it.

It includes the paragraph:
This is a document very similar to one that was signed by Luis Figo with Florentino Perez. The former Barcelona player, advised by his agent, Jorge Mendes, ensuring a significant amount of money as compensation to the risk of forcing his departure. That same approach is used by Ramon Calderon, who is also taking advantage of Ronaldo's representative Jorge Mendes, and who had handled the 'case Figo' in the manner most interesting to Madrid.

Now, I may be wrong about this, but I think:
Mendes is Figo's agent now, but he wasn't back then.
Madrid sprung a release fee clause in Figo's Barca contract so it effectively was a negotiation between Figo and Madrid.

The comments section makes interesting reading - basically their readers think it's bollocks because if Madrid attempted to enforce such a clause they'd be trying to enforce an illegal contract and even FIFA couldn't ignore it.

Some of the Spanish press have just ignored it. Others, like Marca, have taken it and tried to tidy it up, but don't identify any sources (indeed all El Confidencial itself gives as evidence is the fact that Calderon is still smiling).

I guess we'll find out one day, when Mendes publishes his biography maybe.
Click to expand...

Supposedly José Veiga who was Figo agent at the time had Figo sign a deal with Perez to pressure Barcelona into accepting a contract improvement for Figo. But when Perez won the election for President of Real, Figo had three options; remain at Barça and pay the €30 million which he did not have, two, don’t pay them and his agent goes to jail, or three, go to Real Madrid.

Veiga believes that Ramón Calderón is using a similar tactic to snatch Cristiano Ronaldo from Manchester United; making the player sign a deal with Real that includes a penalty clause that could cost Ronaldo millions should he break his end of the deal.

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=801389

Sounds highly illegal to me, but you can never tell with Real, when it comes to football FIFA seem to believe that real is above any laws.
 
anything about now said:
32294_news.jpg


I Think Ronaldo Will Stay - Lippi

World Cup winning coach Marcello Lippi is the latest leading football figure to chime in on one of the most talked about transfer soap operas in history.

Azzuri coach Marcello Lippi offered his views on the Ronaldo transfer saga, revealing to La Gazzetta dello Sport that he believes the Portuguese will remain at Old Trafford.

The veteran 60 year old Italian appears to side with Sir Alex Ferguson’s stance to hang on to the free-scoring winger as he stated that money isn’t everything and that the right decision would be for Ronaldo to stay on in England.

“The €100 million Real Madrid are offering is a crazy figure but some things cannot be bought with money,” Lippi said to the Italian paper in the interview.

“Ferguson is very obstinate on this issue but I believe that it is the correct decision from a technical viewpoint as I don’t think a player should have the final say. I think Ronaldo will stay in Manchester,” he continued.

Lippi also added that based on Portugal’s performance in the recently concluded European Championships in Austria/Switzereland, Ronaldo is not the kind of player capable of winning a major tournament on his own.
Click to expand...

....but...but....I thought he was staying
 
OK!

Most of us know that Madrid haven't got the money for any transfer.

Here what we do......we say to Real Madrid they can have him for £75m but we want cash, none of this pay you so much each year crap!

They can't get the money so we tell Madrid's it's their problem so shut the feck up about our player, if you can't afford him we can't sell him! The whole thing is over and we move on. "There is nothing we can do Ronaldo as Madrid can't afford you!"

Let's play football!
 
Mr. MUJAC said:
OK!

Most of us know that Madrid haven't got the money for any transfer.

Here what we do......we say to Real Madrid they can have him for £75m but we want cash, none of this pay you so much each year crap!

They can't get the money so we tell Madrid's it's their problem so shut the feck up about our player, if you can't afford him we can't sell him! The whole thing is over and we move on. "There is nothing we can do Ronaldo as Madrid can't afford you!"

Let's play football!
Click to expand...

If they don't have the money, there's no need to even do that. Which is frankly negotiating with them, something I think the United heirachy are staunch against

I think the 'saga' is over now, for this summer. The papers will focus on this less and less as actual football dawns on the horizon and takes up the column interest. And the story only sustains if Ronaldo keeps coming out with comments, and that has stopped now. I think he's got the message he isn't going anywhere this summer, and there's nothing to gain from that activity any more
 
Mr. MUJAC said:
OK!

Most of us know that Madrid haven't got the money for any transfer.

Here what we do......we say to Real Madrid they can have him for £75m but we want cash, none of this pay you so much each year crap!

They can't get the money so we tell Madrid's it's their problem so shut the feck up about our player, if you can't afford him we can't sell him! The whole thing is over and we move on. "There is nothing we can do Ronaldo as Madrid can't afford you!"

Let's play football!
Click to expand...


Ahh but they've spent £7m on VDV. They do look a tad foolish, don;t they.
 
The fun begins again..............



Cristiano Ronaldo set to force £68m move from Manchester United to Real Madrid

Cristiano Ronaldo will demand to be allowed to move to Real Madrid when he returns to Old Trafford on Tuesday after the Spanish champions publicly reiterated their desire to sign the Portuguese winger.



By Duncan White
Last Updated: 9:45PM BST 02 Aug 2008

cristiano_ronaldo_785016c.jpg

On his way: Cristiano Ronaldo will insist United release him to Madrid Photo: Getty Images


After weeks of speculation, Ronaldo will attempt to force Manchester United's hand by meeting Sir Alex Ferguson, the manager, and David Gill, the chief executive, to insist he be allowed to move to the Bernabeu.
Ronaldo was in Lisbon but is due to fly to Amsterdam to meet the surgeon who operated on his ankle, before flying to Manchester on Tuesday. In his absence, United beat Espanyol 1-0 in Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's testimonial.
Bernd Schuster, the Madrid coach, confirmed that Real are continuing to work on a deal, with sources in Spain suggesting there has been a considerable softening in the English club's previously stubborn stance.
"We don't have any doubts that the club is working hard to get a solution to this matter," Schuster said.
"We'll have to see what's going to happen. We always knew that it was going to be a complicated matter. It will obviously not be easy for him to come to Madrid but put the question to any football coach and all of them would say they'd love to have a player like Ronaldo."
Ronaldo has told Madrid about his intentions in an attempt to appease their frustration at his lack of agitation for a move away from Old Trafford. Real will offer £68 million but need him to force United into the sale.
Real were finalising their signing of Dutch midfielder Rafael van der Vaart from Hamburg – a move that does not affect their pursuit of Ronaldo.
However, if Ronaldo succeeds in getting United to sell him, it would allow Real to sanction the £30 million sale of Robinho to Chelsea, the terms of which have been agreed in principle. United would reinvest the money from any deal in pushing through their attempts to sign Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham.
United are believed to be negotiating with Spurs, trying to find the middle ground between their £24 million bid and Tottenham's £30 million valuation.

link
 
Status
Not open for further replies.