ALL Ronaldo's future/comments/speculation

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CnutOfAllCnuts said:
What's the point? You might as well let a monkey throw a dart to figure out a number.

No mathemathical model can figure out we would have done last year without Ronaldo, hence there is no answer how the revenue based on performance would have been affected.

Likewise, there is no mathemathical formula which can figure out how much of the merchandise revenue is based on having Ronaldo at the club.

Beckham left after 2002/03 season.

It is impossible to gather whether that's the reason we did worse (football-wise) in 2003/04.

We still sold out "every" game, so the matchday income per game was the same (actually higher, due to price increases).

And it is impossible to gather whether (if that actually happened) a drop in merchandise revenue was a result of Beckham leaving or because the club performed worse.
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Reading your endless posts merely serves to remind me why accountants seldom become chairman. They sit and play as you have been doing, whilst the true entrepreneurs succeed by having a gritty, intuitive grasp of businesses and how they work.

I'll stick with the hated Glazers thanks.
 
ThatOldRedMagic said:
Reading your endless posts merely serves to remind me why accountants seldom become chairman. They sit and play as you have been doing, whilst the true entrepreneurs succeed by having a gritty, intuitive grasp of businesses and how they work.

I'll stick with the hated Glazers thanks.
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Good job I am not an accountant then :)
 
Feedingseagulls said:
Tbh we've seen the RM estimates on Beckham's worth whether spun due to club needs or not - it suggests the impact is considerable.

I've suggested that we can get stats to indicate the impact of one player's sales and the variance of sponsorship with squad composition. I've suggested these would help us assess the impact of certain players.

You keep complaining that we can't give an exact figure on how much 'X' is woirth to the club or how much of our success is down to him. My point is that we do not need to do so since these questions cannot be answered. Use the ansers we can get in the ways they can be used - neither pointless nor useless.
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Real Madrid's totalt revenue in 2005 (according to Deloitte) was £186m. Beckham was there for 4 years. If he contributed directly with £500m over the four years, he accounted for 2/3 of Real's revenue.

Get real (no pun intended...).

Of course, each and everyone player will affect a certain % of a club's revenue. My argument and point is that the players have less of an affect on this at a club like United, than a smaller club, because the club itself is such a pull, and because the income levels are more or less optimised.
 
Sultan said:
Do you mind not being an idiot.

He's debated impeccably with a lot of valid points, and without having to resort to any name calling.

If anything, it's you who's been shown up with an even worse username.
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Geez it was just a bit of sarcasm in response to the way the other chap picked on him.

Apoligies if it came off too strong.:angel:
 
Actually I don't really care anymore. If he stays, good. If he leaves, so be it. But most importantly lets not forget his immense contribution to us for the fast 4 years with the club. Gave all his 200% on the pitch while playing for us.

It is just his dream to play for Madrid, nothing wrong with it. We all have dreams. Without him, Manchester United is still Manchester United. Life still goes on week after week.
 
hycool said:
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he's been with us for five years and has been good for the most part. Would you let the media hold your dick for you while you pee too? Until the great man tells him to feck off he ain't going anywhere. I suggest ignoring Ronaldo threads as it's pointless. 99% are bollocks and the other 1%'s a cnut

It's good you can accept it but I don't think we should be premature. Sir Alex will fight to keep the best players at the club and we'll see next week when Ronaldo returns. There are also too many reasons why we shouldn't sell
 
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3895235,00.html

In an interview last month, the Fifa president called for Manchester United to allow the Portuguese winger to join Real Madrid, should he wish to do so.

Blatter said the Red Devils should not hold the player against his will, even though he was under contract.

He now claims that he never referred to Ronaldo specifically as a slave, but refuses to withdraw his claims that modern footballers need greater protection.

"I have never said that Ronaldo is a slave," Blatter told reporters on Wednesday during a visit to Vietnam.

"But I said slavery with young people. European clubs are trying to get 13, 14 and 15-year-old boys and bring them to the big clubs.

Distorted

"I have never mentioned that for Ronaldo. But the press, they have distorted it.

"Ronaldo is not a slave."

Blatter now hopes that the ongoing transfer saga surrounding Ronaldo will reach a conclusion which satisfies both United and Real.

"They will solve this problem," he said

"We have nothing to say, Fifa is not going to intervene, let it be as it is now."
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jeez, the press distorted his comments. what's new? seriously, have these vermin no ethics?
 
Apparently, Blatter denies calling Ronaldo "a slave".... A MONTH after......:rolleyes:

Blatter claims 'slave' misquote

Sepp Blatter claims he was misquoted regarding his controversial 'slave' quotes on Cristiano Ronaldo.

In an interview last month, the Fifa president called for Manchester United to allow the Portuguese winger to join Real Madrid, should he wish to do so.

Blatter said the Red Devils should not hold the player against his will, even though he was under contract.

He now claims that he never referred to Ronaldo specifically as a slave, but refuses to withdraw his claims that modern footballers need greater protection.

"I have never said that Ronaldo is a slave," Blatter told reporters on Wednesday during a visit to Vietnam.

"But I said slavery with young people. European clubs are trying to get 13, 14 and 15-year-old boys and bring them to the big clubs.

"I have never mentioned that for Ronaldo. But the press, they have distorted it.

"Ronaldo is not a slave."

Blatter now hopes that the ongoing transfer saga surrounding Ronaldo will reach a conclusion which satisfies both United and Real.

"They will solve this problem," he said

"We have nothing to say, Fifa is not going to intervene, let it be as it is now."


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_3895235,00.html
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The fact remains that Blatter acted like a cnut and trying to cover up. Don't try to portray him like an angel so that it suits your argument better. Funny that people say every article they don't want to be true is bollocks, but believe in articles like these.
 
Dodd said:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3895235,00.html




jeez, the press distorted his comments. what's new? seriously, have these vermin no ethics?
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Unless they spliced the video, Blatters lying. It's not the media in this case. Blatter knew exactly what he was doing, knew exactly what he was saying and I'm sure he was paid well for his efforts

Everyone knows the whole exercise was to help push through the move - and for the most part it failed. ha ha.
 
AcquireMe said:
hycool loves Ronaldo, but sees Berbatov as a good wank replacement.
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For your info, I preferred Berbatov not to join us. What is so peeving is that so many people spoke out already, legends, the boardroom, team mates and even people like Pele, Blatter, Platini etc and still Ronaldo continue sending mixed signals all over the place? Manchester United doesn't deserve all this shit stirred by media all over the place. My argument is, someone must still be fanning the fire otherwise why would the fire continue to rage?
 
hycool said:
For your info, I preferred Berbatov not to join us. What is so peeving is that so many people spoke out already, legends, the boardroom, team mates and even people like Pele, Blatter, Platini etc and still Ronaldo continue sending mixed signals all over the place? Manchester United doesn't deserve all this shit stirred by media all over the place. My argument is, someone must still be fanning the fire otherwise why would the fire continue to rage?
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c'mon, has it not occured to you the media don't want it to stop? What will they write about then? It's not a case of a-b logic. You cannot pinpoint someone but clearly mendes has an interest in Ronaldo moving, the media don't give a shit and might not even believe what they write - the point is they're selling paper off his back

Now Ronaldo can say what he likes, it won't stop. There are too many people involved. Honestly, feck what people say. You can say anything bs the main thing is what you do on the pitch and most people would rather Ronaldo does his talking their
 
Striker10 said:
he's been with us for five years and has been good for the most part. Would you let the media hold your dick for you while you pee too? Until the great man tells him to feck off he ain't going anywhere. I suggest ignoring Ronaldo threads as it's pointless. 99% are bollocks and the other 1%'s a cnut

It's good you can accept it but I don't think we should be premature. Sir Alex will fight to keep the best players at the club and we'll see next week when Ronaldo returns. There are also too many reasons why we shouldn't sell
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I hope when he returns he goes straight to the point. It really pains me to see this issue to continue dragging and its detrimental to our preparations for the new season, which is starting around the corner.
 
hycool said:
I hope when he returns he goes straight to the point. It really pains me to see this issue to continue dragging and its detrimental to our preparations for the new season, which is starting around the corner.
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he might he might not. This is Ronaldo we're talking about. We know the things he says. I think people will be disappointed but they shouldn't be.

After last season he 'could' have become complacent. I doubt it but you never know. Now, just like after the world cup he has something to prove and the motivation to do well should excite people because he should have another outstanding season...at united :)
 
Striker10 said:
he might he might not. This is Ronaldo we're talking about. We know the things he says. I think people will be disappointed but they shouldn't be.

After last season he 'could' have become complacent. I doubt it but you never know. Now, just like after the world cup he has something to prove and the motivation to do well should excite people because he should have another outstanding season...at united :)
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Agreed. Sorry I got emo once again and somehow I got the impression Ronaldo is playing a fool with the club. Let's hope he and the team get back to business on the pitch once again :D

Can't wait for the new season to start
 
hycool said:
Agreed. Sorry I got emo once again and somehow I got the impression Ronaldo is playing a fool with the club. Let's hope he and the team get back to business on the pitch once again :D

Can't wait for the new season to start
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I agree with you in the part you want the new season to start, will make things much better imo. Though I look forward to Oles game tomorrow, I used to think preseason were okay, but this year its been so much Ronaldo muppetery and Berba bullshit.
 
Striker10 said:
Unless they spliced the video, Blatters lying. It's not the media in this case. Blatter knew exactly what he was doing, knew exactly what he was saying and I'm sure he was paid well for his efforts.
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a poster here said he saw the entire blatter interview and he concluded that blatter was misquoted on regards to the ronaldo slave comment. what blatter said today meshes with what the poster said days ago.
 
Dodd said:
a poster here said he saw the entire blatter interview and he concluded that blatter was misquoted on regards to the ronaldo slave comment. what blatter said today meshes with what the poster said days ago.
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:lol:
 
Dippersripper said:
:lol:
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Why laugh? Some choose to believe it ... some choose to believe that he is lying. Who knows? Who cares... won't change the way people feel about the whole issue.

Posters have decided on their stance and will stick to it (it seems) regardless of what happens from here on...

Let it go.
 
Dodd said:
a poster here said he saw the entire blatter interview and he concluded that blatter was misquoted on regards to the ronaldo slave comment. what blatter said today meshes with what the poster said days ago.
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but how can someone be misquoted when it's on video? Unless they sliced the video, I don't see how that's possible. Also where was the whole interview shown? Because sky only repeated the same segment and it didn't look good
 
Dippersripper said:
:lol:
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whats so funny? Im going by what I read here. If I've been had, then so be it. btw, is it really that far fetched to think the press spliced and diced blatters comments to insinuate that ronaldo is a slave? go back to the interview and see if blatter says in the same sentence that ronaldo is a slave.
 
Dodd said:
whats so funny? Im going by what I read here. If I've been had, then so be it. btw, is it really that far fetched to think the press spliced and diced blatters comments to insinuate that ronaldo is a slave? go back to the interview and see if blatter says in the same sentence that ronaldo is a slave.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCYrtJAuUSs

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even in that he said he's in favour of the player and he says if he wants to leave let him leave. Is this in reference to young kids? I don't think so. Before he said he was worried players had to much power and contracts must be respected. There is no question of him being misquoted.
 
Whatever the outcome of this "To go or not to go" summer tune, I for one am of the opinion that "NEVER WILL I EVER FORGIVE HIM FOR SPOILING WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT SUMMER OF GLOATING".
 
Striker10 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCYrtJAuUSs

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even in that he said he's in favour of the player and he says if he wants to leave let him leave. Is this in reference to young kids? I don't think so. Before he said he was worried players had to much power and contracts must be respected. There is no question of him being misquoted.
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I think he is talking about the slavery quote, the rest is pretty clear... Blatter is a tit.
 
Did he or did he not say Ronaldo & slave in the same sentence? Short answer please...

That is what Ronaldo was said to agree with right?

Anybody know?
 
FFS DR... That's not what I asked is it?

I know he was being sneaky due to the fact that he is affiliated with Madrid and it's none of his business anyway...

Why I asked is that a lot of the Ronaldo hating went into overdrive when he was reported to have agreed with Blatter saying that he was being treated like a slave, if you don't know the answer then skip the question.
 
Ronaldo clearly knew what Blatter meant. he was asked if he knew of any other player who was treated like that at united and said no.
 
Dippersripper said:
Ronaldo clearly knew what Blatter meant. he was asked if he knew of any other player who was treated like that at united and said no.
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Really?! He was asked specifically about the slave comments? My bad, link please...
 
afrocentricity said:
FFS DR... That's not what I asked is it?

I know he was being sneaky due to the fact that he is affiliated with Madrid and it's none of his business anyway...

Why I asked is that a lot of the Ronaldo hating went into overdrive when he was reported to have agreed with Blatter saying that he was being treated like a slave, if you don't know the answer then skip the question.
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He implied it. It's all there.

The thing is the media cut through the bullshit and reported the underlying meaning.

It's like what the norwegians did with the berbatov story.

He doesn't say directly Ronaldo is a slave but I reckon blatters trying to make out he was 'misquoted' because the media followed through his train of thought

But the guy knew what he was doing, there is no question. There is no real debate and I reckon he knew how the media would print it - so therefore he wouldn't have to spell it out to them.

He's as guilty as sin

Players are slaves because clubs put them on long contracts to control them. This backtracking nonsense is just that and the idea he's been misquoted or he was talking about youngsters, is bollocks
 
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