Well there's no way it'll go through now. Like when they couldn't sign Figo, because he wanted 7, or when the deal for Beckham fell through because of his DB07 Range.
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Well there's no way it'll go through now. Like when they couldn't sign Figo, because he wanted 7, or when the deal for Beckham fell through because of his DB07 Range.
1,700 posts over 43 pages in 12 days.
Given that knowing how these things go, it'll probably drag on for the whole summer, and the transfer window shuts in 89 days, this thread should make over 12.5k posts across 320 pages by then... will that be a record?
Given that knowing how these things go, it'll probably drag on for the whole summer, and the transfer window shuts in 89 days, this thread should make over 12.5k posts across 320 pages by then... will that be a record?
when i said the press would go to great lengths to keep this thing alive, i didn't imagine the depths to which they'd plumb.
well, here you go, folks. lap it up. it comes but every summer.
Real will force the Spanish FA to let them play with two number 7's if need be. No biggie.
this is the exact sort of thing that SAF talks about. It's not because of Ronaldo that SAF and CQ went ballistic at RM. its this sort of stuff.
At least his girlfriend's not a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime as well........
Nereida: Man Utd's Ronaldo hasn't told me his plans
tribalfooball.com - June 03, 2008
Nereida Gallardo, the girlfriend of Cristiano Ronaldo, says the Manchester United star is tightlipped over his interest in playing for Real Madrid.
Nereida told AS: "Frankly, I do not know if he will stay in Manchester or if he is going to move to Real Madrid. It is not because he does not know what to do, but because today he has not told me anything. He never talks about this with me. "The decision depends only on him and if he chooses to go to Madrid I will support him in everything because he's my boyfriend. The same will happen if he stays in Manchester. I do not care what he does. I just want the best thing for him. Cristiano does not like to talk about work issues and I do not press him on it."
Nereida: Man Utd's Ronaldo hasn't told me his plans
tribalfooball.com - June 03, 2008
Nereida Gallardo, the girlfriend of Cristiano Ronaldo, says the Manchester United star is tightlipped over his interest in playing for Real Madrid.
Nereida told AS: "Frankly, I do not know if he will stay in Manchester or if he is going to move to Real Madrid. It is not because he does not know what to do, but because today he has not told me anything. He never talks about this with me. "The decision depends only on him and if he chooses to go to Madrid I will support him in everything because he's my boyfriend. The same will happen if he stays in Manchester. I do not care what he does. I just want the best thing for him. Cristiano does not like to talk about work issues and I do not press him on it."
Couldn't care less, if he doesn't want to play for United, he can feck off.
Except, of course, he's never said that or indeed anything like it.
I love the tagline GusHiddink.
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.....perhaps there is something to be gained from not being adopting a mourinho style of posting.....but could be alot less fun.its Ok...its only boring....
Saw this on the manchester evening news blog regarding Ramsey:
Good news! lets hope he develops and becomes a great utd player....
Just got this story from not the best source....so dont quote me on it..
I work at Manchester's daily paper and our Sports Desk has just now received word that Cristiano Ronaldo is on the brink of handing in a transfer request.
He will only agree to stay if he is given a new contract larger than that offered by Real Madrid and a 85 percent share of his image rights. This deal would see him become the highest paid sports star in history.
Sir Alex is absolutely furious at being held to ransom but is willing to negotiate on the image rights. The Glazers, however, are insulted by the player and are blocking any deal to retain him. As we understand it, Man United might not be able to afford to meet the player's demands in any case due to their complicated re–financing structure.
United have contacted the paper to arrange a 'Please Stay' campaign from the fans in an effort to tug at Cristiano Ronaldo's heart strings.
100 percent accurate information from senior Old Trafford sources.
Does anyone know any more about this...?
chershire red, macc
3/06/2008 at 13:46
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If that is the case, Ronnie is well out of order. Hope we get loads of money for him.
If his heart is not in it, let him go and rot in dusty Madrid.
Good news! lets hope he develops and becomes a great utd player....
Just got this story from not the best source....so dont quote me on it..
I work at Manchester's daily paper and our Sports Desk has just now received word that Cristiano Ronaldo is on the brink of handing in a transfer request.
He will only agree to stay if he is given a new contract larger than that offered by Real Madrid and a 85 percent share of his image rights. This deal would see him become the highest paid sports star in history.
Sir Alex is absolutely furious at being held to ransom but is willing to negotiate on the image rights. The Glazers, however, are insulted by the player and are blocking any deal to retain him. As we understand it, Man United might not be able to afford to meet the player's demands in any case due to their complicated re–financing structure.
United have contacted the paper to arrange a 'Please Stay' campaign from the fans in an effort to tug at Cristiano Ronaldo's heart strings.
100 percent accurate information from senior Old Trafford sources.
Does anyone know any more about this...?
chershire red, macc
3/06/2008 at 13:46
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If that is the case, Ronnie is well out of order. Hope we get loads of money for him.
If his heart is not in it, let him go and rot in dusty Madrid.
WUM
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Dude you frequently have insightful things to say, andf that post was one of them. Just occasionally you get it wrong and are incapable of saving the situation. Of course if you find it fun, to each his own...
Don't suppose anyone has pointed out the inconsistency in his own WUM?
MEN is full of bitters, trying to wind-up United fans. This is just more of the same.
You actually believe that?
So you're just fine with the 2 above lines, right?
I realised that, but I think ForeverRed was firstly saying he doesn't trust the source 100%, while the person who actually said it says it is 100% reliable.
It's also bollocks, all of it is, I was highlighting the part which was the most inaccurate.
I highly doubt Ronaldo is asking for a 'better contract than what Real Madrid are offering' or he will leave, seeing as if he was already offered a contract then we would have reported them to Fifa.
The MEN thing is a WUM, but its very likely that Ronaldo has been told by Madrid exactly what they are willing to pay him.
It is, yes. However if Ronaldo admitted that to us it would turn it into a cold hard fact rather than just speculation, and we would report Real Madrid to FIFA. I also doubt he is asking to be paid the exact same amount as Real Madrid are paying him, I would assume he is just wanting a change to his image rights rather than us to match Real Madrid's offer.
No that doesn't become a cold hard fact. You can't turn up in a court situation and use something that Ronaldo claims Madrid said to him as evidence. Madrid would just deny ever saying such things and claim Ronaldo was using it as a bargaining tool.
Great point Brad. Its certainly not 'out of character'! Its a shame, a real shame after the season he has given us to know leave his support feeling like this. Shades of Rio only much more annoying.
Roy Keane was seen as "holding the club to ransom" in his contract dispute during the treble season. Did not make him any less of a legend.
I've just been on the MEN website. All the text above the dotted line is a direct quote from the original (highly implausible) WUM
The other clue to the involvement of our bitter blue friends is the insinuation of a rift between Fergie and the Glazers and a gratuitous mention of our debt. The only thing missing is a mention of "6 points guaranteed"
I agree Cnut. Been around too long for this kind of bull. If he doesn't want to wear our shirt, he can feck off to the highest bidder. It really would be no big shakes, we would move very quickly on to a better place.
However, if he wanted to stay ... and he's welcome ... just fecking say so and be done with all this shite.
How in the name of bejaysus, is this "much more annoying" than Rio's contract negotiations?
- 8 month drug-ban, on full pay
- Spotted talking to Kenyon in a London restaurant
vs
- 42 goals, in double-winning season
- No objective evidence whatsoever of any contact with Real Madrid
How in the name of bejaysus, is this "much more annoying" than Rio's contract negotiations?
- 8 month drug-ban, on full pay
- Spotted talking to Kenyon in a London restaurant
vs
- 42 goals, in double-winning season
- No objective evidence whatsoever of any contact with Real Madrid
This really has you riled doesn't it. For what it's worth I'm with you. Don't let the knobbers get you down.
Riled is probably a bit strong. Bemused certainly. Very bemused.
The irony being that I don't actually think Rio deserved as much stick as he got either. And look how important Rio has become to our team? Future club captain and our second most important player in a double-winning season. All this, despite a significant chunk of fans thinking we should have got rid of him, the second he hesitated to sign a new deal.
I can certainly see parallels between Rio and Ronaldo mainly regarding fans missing the point completely on both occasions.
Except, as you said, there was far more rope to hang Rio with. I can't see how fans can turn on one of their own players. If Ronaldo leaves then roast him but until he does or says anything to suggest that that might be the case why bother?
Some people tar certain payers with the brush of being of susoect character and feel this is an excuse to criticise them. Roy Keane never got his shit.
How in the name of bejaysus, is this "much more annoying" than Rio's contract negotiations?
- 8 month drug-ban, on full pay
- Spotted talking to Kenyon in a London restaurant
vs
- 42 goals, in double-winning season
- No objective evidence whatsoever of any contact with Real Madrid
Not sure that's the full story though, Pogue. Rio was apparently in two different restaurants with Kenyon that night, and even if that was entirely innocent(or even if he is the one person in the world who might actually enjoy Kenyon's company
) he ought to have had the nous to avoid a situation like that after the club's overt support of him(at least publicly anyway). Asking for a bumper new contract the year after we paid millions to have him sitting in the stands was a foolish move. With the way he was playing he would have been offered one by the club in due course, without putting himself in the situation he did.As for Ronaldo's situation, you're right to say there is no evidence that there has been contact with Madrid, but neither has there been any concrete denial that he is interested in the move, other than one in the heat of the moment after the CL final(or at least not one that is couched in absolute terms, rather than "we'll see" etc). This despite the fact that he was given a huge new contract last season, and we have been completely loyal to him since he joined the club. I feel that his wonderful displays this season would have gotten him the deal he is looking for without resorting to forcing the club into a bidding war with Madrid.
I agree that we should continue to support the players in question, but I also believe that it's a fan's prerogative to voice his displeasure when a player is overtly putting his own interests so publicly ahead of the club's. That applies more to Rio than Ronaldo, who I think is simply looking for a bigger deal. Having said that, whatever the realities or norms of the modern game, I think that both players could/should have conducted themselves better. Simply saying others/everyone does something does not make it acceptable, in my eyes at least.
That said, I'm not convinced there is ever a reason for the sort of booing etc that Rio had to deal with, and I would hate if we ever saw a repeat of that, with Ronaldo or otherwise.
surprise surprise, no announcement of any kind today
maybe tomorrow
maybe tomorrow
Its not about being a nobber!! Ok maybe Rio is an unrealistic comparison. You're BOTH right, there is no evidence ... Thats just the whole problem! Look at the length of this thread. And it could be solved with one 10 second statement with him.Ronaldo is clearly playing a game of brinksmanship ... and his is doing so with a man I love, SAF, and the club we all support MUFC. You and Pogue are of course at liberty to react as you wish, but I just don't like it. Not one bit. And in my opinion his behaviour is nothing short of scandalous.
As for his contribution last season - great, elated, thanks ... but I've already moved on ... does Ronaldo want to be part of a history making team or doesn't he. It would be great with him, but if he goes, he goes. And here is the point: Ronaldo himself is inviting this conversation to happen. And as i can judge by the mood of this thread this past few days, its starting to backfire on him.
maybe it be the same tomorrow as well.
I don't understand why would he want to leave for Spain now. Perhaps in 2 years time its looks more likely... but now, right after winning the double with a squad giving him the perfect set up, playing in the best team in the best league surrounded by best teamates and support by best manager and fans? Why?
found this on another forum.
I work at Manchester's daily paper and our Sports Desk has just now received word that Cristiano Ronaldo is on the brink of handing in a transfer request.
He will only agree to stay if he is given a new contract larger than that offered by Real Madrid and a 85 percent share of his image rights. This deal would see him become the highest paid sports star in history.
Sir Alex is absolutely furious at being held to ransom but is willing to negotiate on the image rights. The Glazers, however, are insulted by the player and are blocking any deal to retain him. As we understand it, Man United might not be able to afford to meet the player's demands in any case due to their complicated re–financing structure.
United have contacted the paper to arrange a 'Please Stay' campaign from the fans in an effort to tug at Cristiano Ronaldo's heart strings.
100 percent accurate information from senior Old Trafford sources.
I work at Manchester's daily paper and our Sports Desk has just now received word that Cristiano Ronaldo is on the brink of handing in a transfer request.
He will only agree to stay if he is given a new contract larger than that offered by Real Madrid and a 85 percent share of his image rights. This deal would see him become the highest paid sports star in history.
Sir Alex is absolutely furious at being held to ransom but is willing to negotiate on the image rights. The Glazers, however, are insulted by the player and are blocking any deal to retain him. As we understand it, Man United might not be able to afford to meet the player's demands in any case due to their complicated re–financing structure.
United have contacted the paper to arrange a 'Please Stay' campaign from the fans in an effort to tug at Cristiano Ronaldo's heart strings.
100 percent accurate information from senior Old Trafford sources.
Some one just e-mailed me an article which says that he spoke out today and confirmed that he wants to stay.
But like everything else thats being written about this, its probably bollocks.
But like everything else thats being written about this, its probably bollocks.
saw this at soccernet.com
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Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon insists the Spanish giants have the money to buy Cristiano Ronaldo.
Although Sir Alex Ferguson has claimed Manchester United's owners, the Glazer family, would not sell the 23-year-old superstar 'at any price', should they ever let Ronaldo leave, the price would almost certainly go beyond the £40million Real paid for Zinedine Zidane six years ago.
Yet Calderon claims no price is too high for the player widely regarded as the best in the world.
'What I have always said is that this club wants its money to be on the pitch, not in the bank,' he said. 'Nothing is expensive or cheap on its own. The counter-balance is what you receive for the price you pay.
'They know what we earn and it is made public that Madrid has it. Last year we made signings that looked expensive but now they look cheap.'
Calderon says Cristiano Ronaldo will not be handed the number seven shirt currently worn by Raul if the Portuguese winger decides to join the club.
And he suggested that the Spanish champions may retire the number altogether when their captain ends his playing days.
'We don't know if he (Ronaldo) will come, but he won't take the number away from Raul. That is untouchable, whoever comes,' he told Marca. 'I would like to retire Raul's number, like they do in basketball.
'In other sports, a legendary player keeps his number for ever and nobody else uses it.'
And Calderon believes Real should already have retired the number nine shirt a long time ago in honour of the great Alfredo Di Stefano.
'I believe Di Stefano's number nine shirt should have been kept back,' he added. 'It wasn't done, but I would like to do it with Raul and take advantage to also include Juanito (a former Real and Spain striker who tragically died in a car accident in 1992 at the age of 37, and also wore the number seven at the club).
'It would be shared. To not do it would be to forget players who have given much to this club. It would be a nice thing to retire the shirt and keep it in the club's museum.'
AC Milan have retired the number six shirt worn by legendary defender Franco Baresi and will do the same when their captain Paolo Maldini - who wears the number three - retires.
Ajax, meanwhile, last year retired the number 14 shirt worn by Johan Cruyff to commemorate their former idol's 60th birthday.
Calderon feels it is still unlikely Ronaldo will leave Old Trafford, a stance that will delight United's hierarchy who, after the threat of FIFA's involvement, feel the message is starting to get home.
However, in pointing out the player has four years left on the contract he signed 12 months ago, the Red Devils feel they are making their position known to Ronaldo as much as Real.
It is still not entirely clear why the winger stated his situation would be resolved 'within 48 hours' on Sunday when no talks are planned or intended.
And if Ronaldo feels he can squeeze more money out of United chief executive David Gill, he may be in for a shock.
Ferguson today insisted he is more convinced than ever Ronaldo will remain at Old Trafford.
'I'm very confident about that,' he told The Sun. 'It's a game Real play all the time. In the past they've done it with David Beckham; they've done it with (Ruud) Van Nistelrooy; they've done it with my fitness coach last summer - so we're used to it.
'I am more than confident Cristiano will be with us next year. The Glazer family will not be messed about in this situation.
'We want Cristiano to stay for a long, long time. He is on a fantastic contract and quite rightly so - he's the best player in the world.'
Meanwhile, one deal that is reaching a conclusion is Patrice Evra's contracts talks with United.
Although Evra is now on Euro 2008 duty with France, he has been informed the matter is virtually done as only very minor alterations are likely once the respective lawyers have done their work.
It is not known whether Evra will sign his contract during the European Championships or at their conclusion before he heads off for a short summer break.
However, it seems Ferguson has completed a clean sweep of the renewals he wanted to achieve, leaving him purely to sort out transfer business.
While Mikael Silvestre and Louis Saha could be offloaded at any point during the summer, it is thought more likely Ferguson's signings will be done at the end of the month.
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Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon insists the Spanish giants have the money to buy Cristiano Ronaldo.
Although Sir Alex Ferguson has claimed Manchester United's owners, the Glazer family, would not sell the 23-year-old superstar 'at any price', should they ever let Ronaldo leave, the price would almost certainly go beyond the £40million Real paid for Zinedine Zidane six years ago.
Yet Calderon claims no price is too high for the player widely regarded as the best in the world.
'What I have always said is that this club wants its money to be on the pitch, not in the bank,' he said. 'Nothing is expensive or cheap on its own. The counter-balance is what you receive for the price you pay.
'They know what we earn and it is made public that Madrid has it. Last year we made signings that looked expensive but now they look cheap.'
Calderon says Cristiano Ronaldo will not be handed the number seven shirt currently worn by Raul if the Portuguese winger decides to join the club.
And he suggested that the Spanish champions may retire the number altogether when their captain ends his playing days.
'We don't know if he (Ronaldo) will come, but he won't take the number away from Raul. That is untouchable, whoever comes,' he told Marca. 'I would like to retire Raul's number, like they do in basketball.
'In other sports, a legendary player keeps his number for ever and nobody else uses it.'
And Calderon believes Real should already have retired the number nine shirt a long time ago in honour of the great Alfredo Di Stefano.
'I believe Di Stefano's number nine shirt should have been kept back,' he added. 'It wasn't done, but I would like to do it with Raul and take advantage to also include Juanito (a former Real and Spain striker who tragically died in a car accident in 1992 at the age of 37, and also wore the number seven at the club).
'It would be shared. To not do it would be to forget players who have given much to this club. It would be a nice thing to retire the shirt and keep it in the club's museum.'
AC Milan have retired the number six shirt worn by legendary defender Franco Baresi and will do the same when their captain Paolo Maldini - who wears the number three - retires.
Ajax, meanwhile, last year retired the number 14 shirt worn by Johan Cruyff to commemorate their former idol's 60th birthday.
Calderon feels it is still unlikely Ronaldo will leave Old Trafford, a stance that will delight United's hierarchy who, after the threat of FIFA's involvement, feel the message is starting to get home.
However, in pointing out the player has four years left on the contract he signed 12 months ago, the Red Devils feel they are making their position known to Ronaldo as much as Real.
It is still not entirely clear why the winger stated his situation would be resolved 'within 48 hours' on Sunday when no talks are planned or intended.
And if Ronaldo feels he can squeeze more money out of United chief executive David Gill, he may be in for a shock.
Ferguson today insisted he is more convinced than ever Ronaldo will remain at Old Trafford.
'I'm very confident about that,' he told The Sun. 'It's a game Real play all the time. In the past they've done it with David Beckham; they've done it with (Ruud) Van Nistelrooy; they've done it with my fitness coach last summer - so we're used to it.
'I am more than confident Cristiano will be with us next year. The Glazer family will not be messed about in this situation.
'We want Cristiano to stay for a long, long time. He is on a fantastic contract and quite rightly so - he's the best player in the world.'
Meanwhile, one deal that is reaching a conclusion is Patrice Evra's contracts talks with United.
Although Evra is now on Euro 2008 duty with France, he has been informed the matter is virtually done as only very minor alterations are likely once the respective lawyers have done their work.
It is not known whether Evra will sign his contract during the European Championships or at their conclusion before he heads off for a short summer break.
However, it seems Ferguson has completed a clean sweep of the renewals he wanted to achieve, leaving him purely to sort out transfer business.
While Mikael Silvestre and Louis Saha could be offloaded at any point during the summer, it is thought more likely Ferguson's signings will be done at the end of the month.
From: INDEPENDENT
03 June 2008
Football: Ronaldo - look away now United fans
By Ian Herbert
Manchester United are not the only ones who wish Cristiano Ronaldo would stop making eyes at Real Madrid.
Sensing an escalation of the diplomatic stand-off which has already seen Sir Alex Ferguson allude to Real's affinity with Franco, the Portuguese football federation's press officer Onofre Costa tried to intervene last week when a Spanish journalist upstaged a press conference at the national team's training camp at Viseu, northern Portugal, by presenting the player with a Real team poster and telling him: "I am here to say one thing: 'We want you with us.'" Ronaldo waved away the official's protestations and insisted on receiving the poster from AS.com's Jose Luis Gerejo. "It's a present for me. I want it," he said, taking the gift.
Even Gerejo was surprised. "I didn't expect that," he tells me. It's the kind of incident which is contributing to the current antagonism felt by the the Portuguese media contingent which has already decamped to Austria, for Cristiano Ronaldo. "We don't like him. He only wants to talk to the Spanish," says one of their number.
Ronaldo is also taking Sir Alex Ferguson for a fool. "It's a game they (Real) play all the time David," he has just told Sir David Frost. "In the past they've done it with Beckham, they've done it with Van Nistelrooy, they've done it with my fitness coach last summer, they took him away from us, so we're used to it."
Ferguson would have been on the ceiling if Beckham had conducted himself like Ronaldo and his apparent willingness to tolerate the Portuguese's conduct is odd. Ronaldo might not have started the flirtation but he has become as much the problem as the suitor.
The word around the Portuguese camp – unsubstantiated as it is - is that Ramon Calderon has made it clear that if Ronaldo does not sign now he will not be pursued again during his presidency - and that has made the player think deeply about his future direction.
Calderon says United have asked him to state publicly that he will not try to sign Ronaldo. The club would be better advised to tell the player to state publicly that his affinities lie with United – or else leave, for everyone's good.
Posted at 04:43 PM in Football | Permalink
03 June 2008
Football: Ronaldo - look away now United fans
By Ian Herbert
Manchester United are not the only ones who wish Cristiano Ronaldo would stop making eyes at Real Madrid.
Sensing an escalation of the diplomatic stand-off which has already seen Sir Alex Ferguson allude to Real's affinity with Franco, the Portuguese football federation's press officer Onofre Costa tried to intervene last week when a Spanish journalist upstaged a press conference at the national team's training camp at Viseu, northern Portugal, by presenting the player with a Real team poster and telling him: "I am here to say one thing: 'We want you with us.'" Ronaldo waved away the official's protestations and insisted on receiving the poster from AS.com's Jose Luis Gerejo. "It's a present for me. I want it," he said, taking the gift.
Even Gerejo was surprised. "I didn't expect that," he tells me. It's the kind of incident which is contributing to the current antagonism felt by the the Portuguese media contingent which has already decamped to Austria, for Cristiano Ronaldo. "We don't like him. He only wants to talk to the Spanish," says one of their number.
Ronaldo is also taking Sir Alex Ferguson for a fool. "It's a game they (Real) play all the time David," he has just told Sir David Frost. "In the past they've done it with Beckham, they've done it with Van Nistelrooy, they've done it with my fitness coach last summer, they took him away from us, so we're used to it."
Ferguson would have been on the ceiling if Beckham had conducted himself like Ronaldo and his apparent willingness to tolerate the Portuguese's conduct is odd. Ronaldo might not have started the flirtation but he has become as much the problem as the suitor.
The word around the Portuguese camp – unsubstantiated as it is - is that Ramon Calderon has made it clear that if Ronaldo does not sign now he will not be pursued again during his presidency - and that has made the player think deeply about his future direction.
Calderon says United have asked him to state publicly that he will not try to sign Ronaldo. The club would be better advised to tell the player to state publicly that his affinities lie with United – or else leave, for everyone's good.
Posted at 04:43 PM in Football | Permalink
A lot of doom and gloom in this thread, I'll try and counterweight it a bit:
This info isn't really very valid without context - as in, which forum, which poster...
IF it's true though... Mr Wayne Rooney, your time to shine has come.
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